[Discussion] Shinigami Aizen vs Yamamoto

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Lord Aizen Sama negs everybody.


On a serious note though, Yama negs every version of Aizen by simply activating bankai, his flames are the same heat as the sun, even if Aizen uses his shikai, he will still be standing near him, he would simply turn to dust, Juha didn't because he stole his flames and used Blut vene.
 

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Depends on which yammato. Prime Yammato neg diffs the entire bleach verse. He would neg current ichigo with just his right hand. Old man yammato it would take aizen's bankai, shikai and yammato solos. But bankai aizen stands a bit but we've never seen aizen's bankai but I could be wrong tbh. Prime yammato>>>>>>>>>>>>any aizen incarnation though
 

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After Yamamoto felt Aizen's reiastu and was fully aware of it, he was confident in defeating him with just using Shunpo/Hakuda/Kido (that's not even base considering that base also include master of swordsmanship), and to add Aizen himself said that battles are battles of reiatsu.

So, I would rather go with Base Yamamoto > Aizen. Even if it's not the case, Yamamoto with just shikai still beat him, considering that Aizen himself said that.
 

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Yamamoto turns Aizen ashes into ashes.
Yamamoto in Bankai can beat any character in bleach. Even juha bach without his power stealing amulet.
Ichibei would ruin Bankai Yamamoto seeing as darkness cannot be burned. Even in Bankai the darkness/black on Yamamoto clothes still linger therefore he isn't getting past Ichibei's black Ant and once he's hit he changes his name and the name of his Zanpakuto.

Ywach with his eyes opened would ruin Yamamoto as well.
 

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Yamamoto turns Aizen ashes into ashes.


Ichibei would ruin Bankai Yamamoto seeing as darkness cannot be burned. Even in Bankai the darkness/black on Yamamoto clothes still linger therefore he isn't getting past Ichibei's black Ant and once he's hit he changes his name and the name of his Zanpakuto.

Ywach with his eyes opened would ruin Yamamoto as well.
The moment he says bankai Ichibe is roasted.
Also Yama has already faced an opened eyes Juha
 

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The moment he says bankai Ichibe is roasted.
Also Yama has already faced an opened eyes Juha
What makes you think Yamamoto would activate his bankai first? Ichibei can create seals to protect himself from the fire as it is if he doesn't already have other defenses. He doesn't even need to use his bankai to de-power Yamamoto. He just needs the Shikai.

By uttering his name, Ichibei can survive even obliteration.

Also Yamamoto never faced Yhwach with his Almighty power active as far as we know. All we know is that he failed to kill him a thousand years ago while Ywhach also witnessed his bankai.
 
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What makes you think Yamamoto would activate his bankai first? Ichibei can create seals to protect himself from the fire as it is if he doesn't already have other defenses. He doesn't even need to use his bankai to de-power Yamamoto. He just needs the Shikai.

By uttering his name, Ichibei can survive even obliteration.

Also Yamamoto never faced Yhwach with his Almighty power active as far as we know. All we know is that he failed to kill him a thousand years ago while Ywhach also witnessed his bankai.
Yama failed to kill him cuz he did not use the full power of his bankai an he still forced Bach to retreat...ichibei needs more than just shikai to beat Yama an if anything Yama already knows his bankai an will remove all the black on him self..he beats ichibei no matter what.

An ichibei has no defense that can block zanka no tachi.
 

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Yama failed to kill him cuz he did not use the full power of his bankai an he still forced Bach to retreat...ichibei needs more than just shikai to beat Yama an if anything Yama already knows his bankai an will remove all the black on him self..he beats ichibei no matter what.

An ichibei has no defense that can block zanka no tachi.

Anything the black ink touches loses its name and power. How would Yamamoto remove it? Let's not forget that Ichibei has the power of black. Anything with the color of black becomes his power and last I checked, that includes Yamamoto and his Zankpakuto which contain black.

The Futen Daisatsuryo is a technique that takes away all the darkness in the enemy and completely annihilates them, sending them into absolute oblivion without a chance of reincarnation.

Ichibei also survived obliteration by having his name uttered.

Yamamoto stands no chance against him.



Well obviously Yamamoto was set out to kill Ywhach and failed. Why would he not use his entire bankai if it could have killed Ywhach? It just doesn't make sense. We don't know the exact details of the fight, just that Yamamoto couldn't finish him off.
 
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Anything the black ink touches loses its name and power. How would Yamamoto remove it? Let's not forget that Ichibei has the power of black. Anything with the color of black becomes his power and last I checked, that includes Yamamoto and his Zankpakuto which contain black.

The Futen Daisatsuryo is a technique that takes away all the darkness in the enemy and completely annihilates them, sending them into absolute oblivion without a chance of reincarnation.

Ichibei also survived obliteration by having his name uttered.

Yamamoto stands no chance against him.



Well obviously Yamamoto was set out to kill Ywhach and failed. Why would he not use his entire bankai if it could have killed Ywhach? It just doesn't make sense. We don't know the exact details of the fight, just that Yamamoto couldn't finish him off.
The ink won't touch Yama an I don't believe Yama in bankai don't have any black on his sword an it looked like ichibei had to still slash Bach after releasing shikai.

Futen daisatsuryo? How dose that move really work anyway dose he have to come incontact with you..an he won't be around to long after Yama activate bankai anyway.

No one will call his name so he's not coming back to life.

Yama himself said he did not use his bankai full power 1000 years ago,he said it right before defeating the fake Bach.
 

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The ink won't touch Yama an I don't believe Yama in bankai don't have any black on his sword an it looked like ichibei had to still slash Bach after releasing shikai.

Futen daisatsuryo? How dose that move really work anyway dose he have to come incontact with you..an he won't be around to long after Yama activate bankai anyway.

No one will call his name so he's not coming back to life.

Yama himself said he did not use his bankai full power 1000 years ago,he said it right before defeating the fake Bach.

What do you mean the ink won't touch his body? Yes it will, his bankai won't prevent that. The ink isn't just plain ink, it's literally the color black, darkness in form of a liquid and Yamamoto's sword hilt and clothes have black in them. He's powerless against Ichibei.

As for the Futen daisatsuryo, it seems that it literally obliterates anything that has black/darkness in them. Meaning you probably can't defend against it. He just does the ritual and chant, then you're gone. I could be wrong about it, but that's how it seemed to work.
 
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What do you mean the ink won't touch his body? Yes it will, his bankai won't prevent that. The ink isn't just plain ink, it's literally the color black, darkness in form of a liquid and Yamamoto's sword hilt and clothes have black in them. He's powerless against Ichibei.

As for the Futen daisatsuryo, it seems that it literally obliterates anything that has black/darkness in them. Meaning you probably can't defend against it. He just does the ritual and chant, then you're gone. I could be wrong about it, but that's how it seemed to work.
Yea it turns to a liquid meaning it can be burned to nothingness the moment it leaves Yama clothes an the hilt of his zanpacto is purple not black.

He has to do a ritual an chant that's not good..an I guess you can defend against it if Bach did.
 
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