[Question] Shichubukai vs Former 3 Admirals

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My thoughts exactly!! But some speculate that is non-cannon so...but regardless he has to be quite strong to defeat Zephr
Zephyr is non canon, shichibukai isn't. If that shichibukai cut the arm of someone like Zephyr (did by Oda in a filler movie), it's just a testament to his strength. Take it like, Aokiji can do similar feats in fillers too like in manga. That new seventh shichibukai did a good feat in a filler too (and this filler was by Oda, so you can consider this feat if you want to judge his strength), which he can probably do in the manga too.
 

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Zephyr is non canon, shichibukai isn't. If that shichibukai cut the arm of someone like Zephyr (did by Oda in a filler movie), it's just a testament to his strength. Take it like, Aokiji can do similar feats in fillers too like in manga. That new seventh shichibukai did a good feat in a filler too (and this filler was by Oda, so you can consider this feat if you want to judge his strength), which he can probably do in the manga too.
Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? I cannot tell...
 

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I don't know if it is that they can keep up with his speed or he just takes the hit because he is Logia and they don't affect him. We 'll see when he fights seriously for once.

In my opinion, the only moment Kizaru got 100% serious was against the 3 supernovas. When Apoo hit him and he took them out all at once. And even then, he didn't kill anybody, he let them. I don't think that is the full power of his kicks. If he wanted to kill them he would have shot Hawkins accurately after all.

As for that moment against Beckman I don't think he was being serious about surrendering. He did attack the submarine again after all.

I agree though that to activate the DF it takes time. Maybe that's the fruit's weakness indeed.
This!
Only against the 3 supernovas Kizaru was really serious. And he moved with the speed of light. Didnt you see that no one relealized what Kizaru did? He was too fast.
Anyway. The 3 Admirals would win this. And why did everyone said that Mihawk is on Admiral level? Because he fought Shanks long time ago? Even if he is on their level. Only one fist of Akainu and he will be dead. Kizaru, Akainu and Kuzan are just too op. And if all of them get serious it is over.
 

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Admirals for sure.
(You can remove buggy)

here is the (my) tier list:

Pirate King 1000
Yonko 700
Admirals 600
Schikibukai 250
Vice-Admiral 80
......
Now those numbers just look wrong
1. WB was a Yonko and he rivaled Roger, same goes for Garp and he was a VA, also Shanks is a Yonko and I just don't think he is 30% weaker than Roger
2. Where would Dragon fit? Where are Rayleigh, Beckman, Marco, ...?
3. Akainu will/is stronger than some Yonko since, like BB he is one of the main protagonists
4. Most speculate Mihawk to be in the top 3 ie stronger than most Yonko ... Yet he gets a 250? Similar for Doflamingo.
5. I'm sure many VA's will turn out to be stronger than Moria ... vergo for example
... there is loads more ...
 
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Lol let me give my opinion.

So well I dont think the admirals are good with team work, I mean in the war they lacked so much of it. Aokiji and Kizaru got off their seats early in the fight and Akainu said something like "Damn those two, we are supposed to stay at our seats to protect...lol nvm". Anyway so their team work is BS. Aokiji freezes the water and Jozu uses the ice and aims it at the summit.

Anyway because their warlords the marines would know all about them right??
If so they know Doflamingo's abilities, which if you dont.... your in for a fight.
Mihawk i dont really know about his strength but i know that One does not simply beat Mihawk.
Law's really tough to and his DF will come in handy in this fight.
Buggy probably learnt something special.
Dont know why you put Kuma there i dont really know much about him.

I just lost interest:p
 

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Now those numbers just look wrong
1. WB was a Yonko and he rivaled Roger, same goes for Garp and he was a VA, also Shanks is a Yonko and I just don't think he is 30% weaker than Roger
2. Where would Dragon fit? Where are Rayleigh, Beckman, Marco, ...?
3. Akainu will/is stronger than some Yonko since, like BB he is one of the main protagonists
4. Most speculate Mihawk to be in the top 3 ie stronger than most Yonko ... Yet he gets a 250? Similar for Doflamingo.
5. I'm sure many VA's will turn out to be stronger than Moria ... vergo for example
... there is loads more ...
average dude, like the diff ( Mihawk is at Yonko) with Buggy and Mihawk is the same to this to that.
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Ok buggy per exemple Buggy power is 100, then Mihawk 10000

And the number like of class, ( i m not ganna make a thing for vice-pirate king)
 

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The admirals do one single combination move

Kuzan - pheasant beak
Akainu -magma/meteor shower
Kizaru- Yasakani no magatama

Admirals win, end of story

Stop overrating mihawk or doflamingo, doflamingo being the arrogant boastful douche that he is, didnt want to go one on one with a handicap aokiji...
 

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average dude, like the diff ( Mihawk is at Yonko) with Buggy and Mihawk is the same to this to that.
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Ok buggy per exemple Buggy power is 100, then Mihawk 10000

And the number like of class, ( i m not ganna make a thing for vice-pirate king)
First of all ... What?

Second: you gave Buggy as an example where clearly he should not be a sichibukai because he was extremely weak, hes the only one like that

Third: making a common level for everyone just cant be done because that doesn't tell us anything, for example you gave yonko a number a lot lower than roger when WB should have about the same number, same with shanks really ... i doubt it very much that kaido, bm and bb would have their numbers so low that the end result becomes 700, same for the sichibukai, you have Mihawk who many believe is in the top 3 stronger than most yonko, you have almost admiral level Doflamingo and even kuma ... And on the other hand you have fodder level buggy so your number fits exactly no sichibukai

Forth: whats the point of the elephant?

The admirals do one single combination move

Kuzan - pheasant beak
Akainu -magma/meteor shower
Kizaru- Yasakani no magatama

Admirals win, end of story

Stop overrating mihawk or doflamingo, doflamingo being the arrogant boastful douche that he is, didnt want to go one on one with a handicap aokiji...
You say we overrate, I say you underrate
 
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this is absurd. no one except for dofla, law and hancock have shown CoA haki. so really the rest might as well not even be here because they arent hurting admirals.
meaning aokiji can quickly KO the others then go and help kizaru fight law and hancock.

Mihawk alone is Yonko lvl.

Mihawk would mid diff an Admiral.
how? every other swordsman but rayleigh is virtually featless and ray was at best = an admiral
 

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this is absurd. no one except for dofla, law and hancock have shown CoA haki. so really the rest might as well not even be here because they arent hurting admirals.
meaning aokiji can quickly KO the others then go and help kizaru fight law and hancock.
are you seriously suggesting Mihawk doesn't have armament Haki?
 

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First of all ... What?

Second: you gave Buggy as an example where clearly he should not be a sichibukai because he was extremely weak, hes the only one like that

Third: making a common level for everyone just cant be done because that doesn't tell us anything, for example you gave yonko a number a lot lower than roger when WB should have about the same number, same with shanks really ... i doubt it very much that kaido, bm and bb would have their numbers so low that the end result becomes 700, same for the sichibukai, you have Mihawk who many believe is in the top 3 stronger than most yonko, you have almost admiral level Doflamingo and even kuma ... And on the other hand you have fodder level buggy so your number fits exactly no sichibukai

Forth: whats the point of the elephant?



You say we overrate, I say you underrate
How im i underrating him? , im well aware of his capabilities, but to say that he can SOLO an admiral? Come on....
 

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How im i underrating him? , im well aware of his capabilities, but to say that he can SOLO an admiral? Come on....
if the person you had in mind with this post i Mihawk than ...

a lot of people put him in the current top 3 along with Dragon and Shanks (if we ignore the Gorosei and Kong) and it's not all that unreasonable to do so: wss, the person Zoro (an almost equal to Luffy) will have to eventually surpass, oe of the characters Oda is most secretive about power wise (some of the others being Shanks, Dragon, Garp, Big Mom, Kaido, Gol D Roger, ...), extreme hype, ...
 
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this one is hard since buggy and law wouldnt really help at all. Law is far below doflamingo level. Just because Law is dangerous, but he is most likely no threat to the admirals. His feat right now is barely beating a cocky vergo who is vice admiral to vice admiral+ level that just got done fighting another vice admiral

Then we dont know how strong exactly Hancock and Kuma really are. They dont have much hype behind them. Hancock could bring a vice admiral to his knees just with her weakest, slowest, and most basic technique, other than that she just messes around in battle and doesnt try. Kuma hasnt really been seen fighting anyone that powerful at all. Hancock and kuma are the wild cards to this fight. We know that Mihawk can take fight on par with or at least take out one of the former admirals, and doflamingo is probably on the admiral level, but can be beaten by any of the three.
 
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