Sharingan Retcon?

[Blaze Release]

I have always found it strange that the sharingan is a kg of the uchiha yet in part 1 and in the DB it states that it acquires in only a fraction of the uchiha clan.

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Or a direct quote " Even within the clan, the lineage this Kekkei Genkai exclusively manifests itself in is a mere fraction."

However we have seen during madara's era They all wielded the sharingan [

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Tobirama explanation also makes it seem that its possible for every member of the clan to awaken it [

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I am not sure if its a retcon or the bloodline has thinned over the years which would tie into what the previous DB/Manga has said about it acquiring in only a fraction​

 

[Prince Charles]

Im guessing some uchiha just don't have the ability to access or "unlock" the barrier that's separating them from the sharigan.

Or in simple terms, some uchiha are just lucky to be able to obtain it, while others can't.

 

[Twin Steps]

Im guessing some uchiha just don't have the ability to access or "unlock" the barrier that's separating them from the sharigan.

Or in simple terms, some uchiha are just lucky to be able to obtain it, while others can't.

This^

 

[Owarij]

Probably a Retcon, though we;ve never seen any females activate the doujutsu, when compared with the hyuuga, it's possible that the fraction would be most males... Then again, half of the uchiha clan still isn't as sparse/rare as the manga made unlocking the eye out to be..

You also have to remember, that to unlock the eye in the first place, some special conditions must be met
For Itachi, databook listed this

He awakened the Sharingan when he was 8 years old, It is hard to conceive how much grief has been reflected in those eyes...

There is a possibility that many members of the clan may have never found themselves in a situation that allowed them to unlock it, it's just a possibility

As tobirama said, strong feelings/ loss are the triggers to awakening it

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Not everybody awakens it. Pure and simple

 

[Blaze Release]

I don think you guys understand. Firstly it says it manifests in a mere fraction yet i have shown you during madara's era that quiet a lot had it. Also even outside the popular uchiha's we know, we have seen others like kagami, the 3 uchiha fodder's that itachi trolled and fukagu for example all wielded it.

With all the countless wars and possible death during missions and what not, you'd think its common but rather its been labelled as only a few

Secondly the way the entry has been made it hinting towards a supreme lineage within the uchiha itself that have this kg to awaken it. Yet the latest chapter states that, its not the case but rather all have the dna to.

 

[fastrthnwind]

I don think you guys understand. Firstly it says it manifests in a mere fraction yet i have shown you during madara's era that quiet a lot had it. Also even outside the popular uchiha's we know, we have seen others like kagami, the 3 uchiha fodder's that itachi trolled and fukagu for example all wielded it.

With all the countless wars and possible death during missions and what not, you'd think its common but rather its been labelled as only a few

Secondly the way the entry has been made it hinting towards a supreme lineage within the uchiha itself that have this kg to awaken it. Yet the latest chapter states that, its not the case but rather all have the dna to.

It's only showing the portion of people who had it so that people will be able to identify that it was only the uchiha clan on the page. Only a few have awakened it because of the requirements to awaken it are somewhat high where not everyone will be able to fulfill them.

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

I don think you guys understand. Firstly it says it manifests in a mere fraction yet i have shown you during madara's era that quiet a lot had it. Also even outside the popular uchiha's we know, we have seen others like kagami, the 3 uchiha fodder's that itachi trolled and fukagu for example all wielded it.

With all the countless wars and possible death during missions and what not, you'd think its common but rather its been labelled as only a few

Secondly the way the entry has been made it hinting towards a supreme lineage within the uchiha itself that have this kg to awaken it. Yet the latest chapter states that, its not the case but rather all have the dna to.

you are right when eva brought up in the manga it seems this fraction was very large

when itachi spoke of the ms it seemed that many tired any even succeeded in getting it
then again when speaking of inazagi it seemed common that uchihas had sharingan
and once more when showing madaras era many had it

My theory only the civilian uhicha and those who married in didn't have it
Fact is the shinobi system itself can lead to those right conditions
Fact countless wars occurred futher raising the possibility of meeting said conditions

 

[Icelerate]

Firstly, you do realize that the Uchiha we saw in that flashback of Madara's era were probably the main Uchiha on the front lines. In other words, that scan didn't show us the full picture of the Uchiha clan. Secondly, having the sharingan likely increases the chance of survival for that said user so this means that non sharingan Uchiha are likely to die out faster than the ones with the sharingan. Which means that the fraction of 3 tomoe Uchiha living at any given time is bound to be higher than the fraction of 3 tomoe Uchiha compared to the number of Uchiha of all time.

 

[Disquiet]

Hmmm well there's like nine, maybe ten Uchihas in that manga page. Also, as previously stated, it's possible that none of them have found themselves in such a situation: When an Uchiha that have known such strong feelings comes to lose them


Probably not every Uchiha have known such strong feelings. And also, the ones who have may not have necessarily 'lost them'.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

I have always found it strange that the sharingan is a kg of the uchiha yet in part 1 and in the DB it states that it acquires in only a fraction of the uchiha clan.

Example here [

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Db entry [

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Or a direct quote " Even within the clan, the lineage this Kekkei Genkai exclusively manifests itself in is a mere fraction."

However we have seen during madara's era They all wielded the sharingan [

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]

Tobirama explanation also makes it seem that its possible for every member of the clan to awaken it [

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]

I am not sure if its a retcon or the bloodline has thinned over the years which would tie into what the previous DB/Manga has said about it acquiring in only a fraction​

Not only that but Tobi/Obito has many Sharingan in a bunch of jars.

The Uchiha Clan's numbers must have been really large...like in the thousands.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Perhaps they all didn't awaken it because every single clan member wasn't put in a situation that would cause them to awaken the sharingan?

 

[Regulus]

I think because in Madara's era there was constant war and strife. Therefore the Uchiha's of that generation experienced a lot of loss unlocking the Sharingan. It is not explicitly stated but I would wager during the shinobi wars there were more Uchiha with Sharingan.

 

[AaaaNinja]

I don't see how the image is an inconsistency. I looks like a group shot of a bunch of the high-ranking Uchiha soldiers, so the incidence among them for sharingan must be high because I expect their sharingan would have given them advantages in their career. In the same way that the incidence of certain traits among Hollywood actors is much higher than you'd find in the general population.

 

[AnimusOra]

The times have changed since Madaras day. All anyone knew at that time was war and bloodshed. The amount of sharingans that were unlocked must have been at its highest percentile. When Sasuke states what he knew about the Sharingan his clan were not having to deal with death on a daily or even hourly basis as such in the past. The proof that they were not is the fact he said that so few had unlocked it. Im sure that any Uchiha can unlock it, they just dont have the need for it anymore

 

[Talal]

Kishi is just a very very sloppy writer, he keeps contradicting himself.

 

[The Necromancer]

I'm pretty sure what we're seeing is only those who fight in wars or other such activities. You can assume each of the men in madara's time had a wife and children, and in any clan there's bound to be those who do not fight. For example, no uchiha female has even been seen with a sharingan, the elderly have never been seen with one, and we barely even see those members of a village that aren't shinobi (to the point that we forget non-shinobi even exist.)

 

[Codex]

well, 99/100 is a fraction.

But I agree the sharingan is nowhere near as rare as it was initially conveyed. Perhaps the use of the word "mere" was a poor translation.

 

[hearteaterx]

Im guessing some uchiha just don't have the ability to access or "unlock" the barrier that's separating them from the sharigan.

Or in simple terms, some uchiha are just lucky to be able to obtain it, while others can't.

Well, technically the manga's latest chapters would have us believe that Uchiha who obtain sharingan are unlucky. They unlock the sharingan by feeling hatred and going through traumatic events. That's how we see Sasuke obtain his sharingan at such a young age: in order to try and kill Itachi the night Itachi slaughtered the Uchiha clan. Obito was much older, but he unlocked his sharingan in order to kill the enemy ninja that were holding Rin hostage and that cut out Kakashi's eye.

It seems pretty evident that in Madara and Hashirama's age all Uchiha suffered tragedy and obtained sharingan. In the more peaceful and prosperous days of the Leaf village, some Uchiha actually lived happily and peacefully, so they would't obtain sharingan.

 

[Silverblade]

When Uchiha reach their first level of butthurt. That is when they awaken the Sharingan.