Sharingan can copy Gentle fist

[Jinrou]

Dude I never mentioned air palm or rotation once until you repeatedly starting bringing it up for whatever. Maybe you interpreted too far into the gentle fist title when i only mentioned gentle fist taijutsu that Boruto performed. Yes that is all i meant just deal with it and stop trying to flip the argument to something I never said.

It wouldn't kill you to admit you made a mistake man :lol Title of thread: Sharingan can copy Gentle fist.

Gentle fist is an ingredient in all Hyuga techniques except 64 palms which requires Byakugan only. If Sharingan can copy that, then they can use all other Hyuga techniques. That's what your title implies.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

It wouldn't kill you to admit you made a mistake man :lol Title of thread: Sharingan can copy Gentle fist.

Gentle fist is an ingredient in all Hyuga techniques except 64 palms which requires Byakugan only. If Sharingan can copy that, then they can use all Hyuga techniques. That's what your title implies.

The title of a thread doesn't define the main points inside of them. Instead of just reading the title and making your own interpretation based on tthat how about you read thread. Because as of now you're just trying to make implications based on four words only.

 

[Jinrou]

The title of a thread doesn't define the main points inside of them. Instead of just reading the title and making your own interpretation based on tthat how about you read thread. Because as of now you're just trying to make implications based on four words only.

Very well, answer me this then. Can the Sharingan copy Gentle fist? Not the taijutsu style.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Why is it not worth answering? Either you can't cause you don't know or you know and it'll prove you wrong. Either way concession accepted for the 2nd time. Don't quote me again with you nonsense of you can't even answer simple questions.

Lmaooo. No one has time for your nonsense. Have we ever seen a uchiha use water dragon jutsu I guess they can't learn that either with the sharingan. That's the logic you're using. Quite frankly you're a tiring unintelligent individual.

 

[Exaar]

I guess There is a difference between learning advance kkg abilties like rotation and innate kkg abilties like byakugan and sharingan awakening.

However if the kkg byakugan is what is required of gentle fist taijutsu Boruto wouldn't have been taught it. Yes he's half Hyuuga but his mother being half Hyuuga doesn't mean he was guaranteed to unlock the byakugan or be capable of what you call a kkg

As i've said before, Originally boruto and Himawari were supposed to have the byakugan from the start, Kishi stated himself he forgot to draw them with it.
So the point of it not being guaranteed it mute.

Byakugan isn't stated to be required for most known GF techniques, It's there just as an aid, I'll say it again, The only technique that is outright stated to require the byakugan is Twin lion fists.
The rest just just say the byakugan is used to Aid the use of said technique, Using it at a scope to aim Airpalm or Using 360 to perceive attacks so you can use rotation to defend against attacks which would normally blindside people.

Because they are part of the suite of techniques that "use" Byakugan (altough you don't really need it for these 2). Again, Vacuum Palm is a technique that expells compressed air to a target's vitals. If you say that part of the actual technique is to hit vitals, and uses the byakugan to pinpoint the vitals, then yeah, you can say its a KG, but in the end, it's just compressed air. Gai with Hirudora could already do something like that (in a massive scale while we're at it), and that's no KG whatsoever. Same for Kaiten: unless it's stated somewhere that you need Hyuuga blood or Byakugan to expel chakra from every tenketsu, it's just that. Again, Gai when he opened the 6th gate against Kisame underwater, he did something similar (by expelling chakra from his entire body to push away a lake-worth of water out of his path), and that's no KG either.

It doesn't work like that.

It's like saying an uchiha using the sharingan to aid them in shuriken jutsu or anyother weapon based technique suddenly makes that shuriken jutsu/weapon based technique a KKG ability. Which it doesn't.
It's exactly the same for Airpalm/Rotation, Byakugan plays zero part in the actual mechanics of the Jutsu, It's just an aid.

It's stated you need hyuga blood when it was labeled a KKG, The only GF technique we know of that requires the byakugan is twin lion fists which is outrightly stated in it's DB.
Gai did do something similar but obviously different as labeled by kishi.

The more we learn about the hyuga in boruto (if at all) these things will make more sense.

 

[Mori Jin]

Lmaooo. No one has time for your nonsense. Have we ever seen a uchiha use water dragon jutsu I guess they can't learn that either with the sharingan. That's the logic you're using. Quite frankly you're a tiring unintelligent individual.

Kakashi did with the Sharingan already. Copied it and used it as well. Uchiha could also just as easily. Nice try though.

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You still haven't answered the question.

 

[Jinrou]

The sharingan has its limits. It won't be able to perform techniques that absolutely require the byakugan.

Lol. Rotation and Air palm don't absolutely require Byakugan... Does this mean Sharingan can copy them despite Gentle fist being stated as ingredients for these techs?

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Okay, let's eliminate the hand signs then.

Other than using the same hand signs, how do you think a Sharingan user is able to use a jutsu he just copied? Do you think he suddenly learns how to make the exact chakra flow out of nowhere, or its because he copied it? :wut:

Hand sign easy because hand signs mold the chakra into the state you need it

 

[MightGai]

It doesn't work like that.

It's like saying an uchiha using the sharingan to aid them in shuriken jutsu or anyother weapon based technique suddenly makes that shuriken jutsu/weapon based technique a KKG ability. Which it doesn't.
It's exactly the same for Airpalm/Rotation, Byakugan plays zero part in the actual mechanics of the Jutsu, It's just an aid.

It's stated you need hyuga blood when it was labeled a KKG, The only GF technique we know of that requires the byakugan is twin lion fists which is outrightly stated in it's DB.
Gai did do something similar but obviously different as labeled by kishi.

The more we learn about the hyuga in boruto (if at all) these things will make more sense.

that's actually the example I pasted on another thread, the shurikenjutsu one. If in the Uchiha's case, using Sharingan to support the actual feat that doesn't necessarily requires it doesn't make the actual feat a KG, why would it be in the Hyuuga's case?. Then you're agreeing with me? That Kaiten / Air Palm is not an actual KG and can be learned / taught to other people?.

Regular GF also requires byakugan, since the idea behind it it's to hit the tenketsus, else it wouldn't be GF. I would say that anything that doesn't target the tenketsus (ergo, doesn't really need the byakugan) is not a KG

 

[Vulpini]

Hand sign easy because hand signs mold the chakra into the state you need it

Nah.

There are many jutsu with the same hand signs. Just the hand sign isn't enough to cast a jutsu, you need to mold the chakra flow inside.

 

[Exaar]

that's actually the example I pasted on another thread, the shurikenjutsu one. If in the Uchiha's case, using Sharingan to support the actual feat that doesn't necessarily requires it doesn't make the actual feat a KG, why would it be in the Hyuuga's case?. Then you're agreeing with me? That Kaiten / Air Palm is not an actual KG and can be learned / taught to other people?.

I'm saying that, GF techniques are KKG regardless of if they require the byakugan or not, As the DB states. Meaning the KKG part of GF doesn't from from the byakugan but a separate KKG all together and the hyuga combine these two, To create techniques like 64 palams that target the chakra system or techniques like Twin Lion fists.

I would say that anything that doesn't target the tenketsus (ergo, doesn't really need the byakugan) is not a KG

According to the DB it is, That's the point.
If it doesn't require the byakugan and it's still labeled a KKG, Then it's a separate KKG from the byakugan entirely. IF not it wouldn't be labeled a KKG they would be more Hidden techniques like nara clans shadow technique, or Ino's mind transfer.

 

[lndra]

How can the Sharingan copy a fighting style that needs the Byakugan to be utilized?

Can they learn the movements, sure. But it's utterly useless, like Boruto throwing around the stance.

You need the Byakugan to target tenketsu, which is why there's a big difference to Himawari using it, and Boruto.

 

[Jinrou]

Going through the thread again, there seems to be misconceptions on how Hyuga inflict damage. It was never stated Hyuga deal damage on their opponents by channeling their chakra into their tenketsu. They simply send their Jyuken into their opponents [

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Tenketsu only comes into play when Hyuga want to shut off or increase chakra flow. [

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Sending Hyuga chakra into another destroys organs but the same cannot be said for non Hyuga. That would mean Gentle fist is unique to them alone in the same way biting Karin and sucking her chakra to heal is unique to her alone. All Hyuga techniques require Juuken as an ingredient and this is why Byakugan needed or not, all the techniques are tagged KKG and not Hiden.

 

[MightGai]

I'm saying that, GF techniques are KKG regardless of if they require the byakugan or not, As the DB states. Meaning the KKG part of GF doesn't from from the byakugan but a separate KKG all together and the hyuga combine these two, To create techniques like 64 palams that target the chakra system or techniques like Twin Lion fists.



According to the DB it is, That's the point.
If it doesn't require the byakugan and it's still labeled a KKG, Then it's a separate KKG from the byakugan entirely. IF not it wouldn't be labeled a KKG they would be more Hidden techniques like nara clans shadow technique, or Ino's mind transfer.

It doesn't make sense though. Truly, if Air Palm is basically compressed air being push, there are characters that can do the EXACT same thing (I can give you Kaiten since I don't think Gai pushes his chakra from his tenketsus, rather from his pores. Altough similar in effect, not the same thing). There isn't a hint of why it would be a KG if it doesn't require the actual KG of the Hyuuga which would be the Byakugan.

Not that I care much about DB after it put Hidan in the same level of intelligence as Neji ...

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

The sharingan doesn't posses the same quality as the Byakugan so therefore it can only copy the taijutsu style of the gentlefist and nothing more. It's much the same with Boruto case where some believe he has the gentle fist and learned it from his mother which is completely invalid. This is the misconception by the fanbase. Rather He was raised to imitate from his mother and perform the Open Palm ( Which is basically like a Gentlefist without emitting chakra)

It's been proven that Boruto W/O the Byakugan would render ineffective and his Gentlefist only comes into the picture when he activated a Joagan which has the properties of the Byakugan to shutdown the Nue WeakPoint.

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[neosmith500]

Sharingan can copy the movments , just as it would the real life style GF is based on , Baguazhang.

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As far as copying the actual Chakra applications , no the Sharingan cannot. Byakugan is only one of the KKG passed down in the Hyuga family. Pretty sure the other KKG is the Gentle fist unless someone wants to tell us which other KKG other than Byakugan Kishi noted here.

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[Pyro NB]

Copy the movements yes. Actually use the style efficiently and how it was meant to be used no.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

GENTLE FIST is a taijutsu style that exploits the ability to expel chakra from every tenketsu of the body, Hyuuga exclusive.
Such ability is considered a Hyuuga KKG along with the Byakugan. Sure the Sharingan could copy the basic form and stances, but will a Sharangan wielder ever execute Air palm, rotation, TLF, 64 palms, etc? No

Am I late to this dumb party?

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

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[HyuugaHeir]

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Sasuke inhaled mini bombs into his bloodstream. He realized he had actual explosives in his system. He disarmed them with his lightning release. How does this relate to copying Gentle Fist?