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[McRazor]

@Bold Wow it didn't click me it could be used that way. I was waiting to learn a few more jutsus before I tried to think of combinations.

This is a trickery type of Genjutsu. The user is basically throwing a bomb but the opponent instead sees a clone approaching. If my opponent uses this technique I can deduce it is a Genjutsu when I see the clone approaching but I cannot see its shadow upon the ground, as all tangible things cast shadows. Also if I cannot hear the approaching clone's footsteps then its not real but an illusion. A real clone running might also leave its foot marks on the ground depending on the terrain. If there are no foot marks where the clone stepped then its an illusion. I can get out of it by chipping my finger.

No need to rely on stronger jutsus. You can always make very good combinations with low ranked jutsus as well. The type of combos are very flashy and people love seeing stuff like that in fights. It's inspiring because it makes other try to think of different combos too and it's also helpful and useful for yourself in the fight, obviously.

Excellent, I love the marks on the ground deduction. It's possible that the clone just sort of "glides" across the ground as it's running to you while, for example, not raising the dust that is on the ground or not making splashes while running on the water. However, the real thing with this genjutsu is the bomb. Usually, illusions don't do any damage but this one does because of the bomb, so you have to deal with it as quickly as possible. Chipping your finger would only remove the clone from your vision but then you would face the reality and see the bomb flying at you. Don't forget to deal with that one too.

 

[Sherlock.]

No need to rely on stronger jutsus. You can always make very good combinations with low ranked jutsus as well. The type of combos are very flashy and people love seeing stuff like that in fights. It's inspiring because it makes other try to think of different combos too and it's also helpful and useful for yourself in the fight, obviously.

Excellent, I love the marks on the ground deduction. It's possible that the clone just sort of "glides" across the ground as it's running to you while, for example, not raising the dust that is on the ground or not making splashes while running on the water. However, the real thing with this genjutsu is the bomb. Usually, illusions don't do any damage but this one does because of the bomb, so you have to deal with it as quickly as possible. Chipping your finger would only remove the clone from your vision but then you would face the reality and see the bomb flying at you. Don't forget to deal with that one too.

Thanks and I have a question Sensei. Like I said earlier, if I can see the clone but not his shadow cast on the ground, then he's not real but an illusion as all tangible things cast a shadow. Now can I do the opposite deduction for the bomb in this Genjutsu? As in when I look at the ground I don't see the clone's shadow but I see the shadow of a round object(bomb) approaching me but there isn't really anything round coming at me when I look up. For example if my opponent uses this Genjutsu on me and I use the following explanation to get out of it -

*I and my opponent are at a short distance from each other. I see my opponent do a hand seal and suddenly his clone starts approaching me. I quickly find two strange things about it all. First my opponent's clone running towards me has no shadow cast on the ground. Second, I see a shadow of a round object approaching me but I see no such object in real. I realize I must be in a Genjutsu and quickly set both my hands in motion simultaneously. I chip my left thumb and draw a kunai out of my right sleeve into my right hand with an intention of targeting whatever it is that's coming at me. The moment I chip my left thumb, the clone vanishes and I see the bomb coming at me. Wasting no time I hurl the Kunai at it and jump back as I watch the Kunai colliding with the bomb and making an explosion mid air.*

Will this be valid? Using the shadows of the clone and the bomb as a clue to deduce its a Genjutsu?

 

[McRazor]

Thanks and I have a question Sensei. Like I said earlier, if I can see the clone but not his shadow cast on the ground, then he's not real but an illusion as all tangible things cast a shadow. Now can I do the opposite deduction for the bomb in this Genjutsu? As in when I look at the ground I don't see the clone's shadow but I see the shadow of a round object(bomb) approaching me but there isn't really anything round coming at me when I look up. For example if my opponent uses this Genjutsu on me and I use the following explanation to get out of it -

*I and my opponent are at a short distance from each other. I see my opponent do a hand seal and suddenly his clone starts approaching me. I quickly find two strange things about it all. First my opponent's clone running towards me has no shadow cast on the ground. Second, I see a shadow of a round object approaching me but I see no such object in real. I realize I must be in a Genjutsu and quickly set both my hands in motion simultaneously. I chip my left thumb and draw a kunai out of my right sleeve into my right hand with an intention of targeting whatever it is that's coming at me. The moment I chip my left thumb, the clone vanishes and I see the bomb coming at me. Wasting no time I hurl the Kunai at it and jump back as I watch the Kunai colliding with the bomb and making an explosion mid air.*

Will this be valid? Using the shadows of the clone and the bomb as a clue to deduce its a Genjutsu?

The flash bomb is covered by the clone meaning that it's completely removed from your vision and the same goes for its shadow. You wouldn't be able to see it in the illusion because it's not there. However, regarding the clone, yes you would be able to deduce that it's an illusion by not seeing its shadow.

 

[Sherlock.]

Thanks and Understood Sensei.

 

[McRazor]

Thanks and Understood Sensei.

( Magen: Narakumi ) - Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user performs two handseals causing it to appear as if a swirl of leaves surrounds the opponent. The swirl eventually falls away, and after a few seconds, the opponent sees the image of whatever they fear the most, shocking them and potentially causing them to faint.

This technique is a bit similar to the one with the rose petals where you disappear in a swirl. Instead of flower petals this time you use leaves which can actually be much more accessible making this a more realistic genjutsu. Obviously, if there are leaves on the ground it would be a good idea to reach for this genjutsu. A battlefield that would be perfect for usage of this technique are the woods outside of Konoha, for example. Once the swirl fades away, instead of you, the opponent will see the manifestation of his biggest fear, be it a spider or an alien, or whatever. There's a downside to this technique and that's everyone saying that they're fearless bastards and that they're all brave and mighty. Well, even the bravest fear death. So, worst case scenario the opponent could see his dead self. This part of the technique isn't really "by protocol" and it can be more like a freeform or rather poetic freedom. In your description you could say for example that the user would see what he fears, etc and then follow up by saying that knowing how all your opponents are fierce they still fear death, making that what they can see if they choose to metagame out of your genjutsu. With your description you basically give them a choice, either comply with the technique and choose something you fear or fear death.

 

[Sherlock.]

I think this comes under the "Other" category of Genjutsu. It neither restricts the opponent's movements nor tries to trick the opponent by making him believe X is Y nor is this Genjutsu's main purpose to conceal the user. Its to get the opponent off guard by suddenly making him face his fears. This Genjutsu seems slow in its working. The words "The swirl eventually falls away, and after a few seconds , the opponent sees the image of whatever they fear the most" suggest so. While it is true if there are leaves on the ground it becomes more believable, I can still get out of it simply by saying I cant hear the swirling sound of the leaves. I can also get out by saying I see the leaves swirling but I can't feel the wind is strong enough to cause so many leaves swirl. I can say I'm fearless and get out of it. I can get out of it by chipping my finger. I think a cool way to use this Genjutsu is by using it after a low ranked Wind tech in woods.

And that fear of spider reference, Harry Potter fan spotted.

 

[McRazor]

I think this comes under the "Other" category of Genjutsu. It neither restricts the opponent's movements nor tries to trick the opponent by making him believe X is Y nor is this Genjutsu's main purpose to conceal the user. Its to get the opponent off guard by suddenly making him face his fears. This Genjutsu seems slow in its working. The words "The swirl eventually falls away, and after a few seconds , the opponent sees the image of whatever they fear the most" suggest so. While it is true if there are leaves on the ground it becomes more believable, I can still get out of it simply by saying I cant hear the swirling sound of the leaves. I can also get out by saying I see the leaves swirling but I can't feel the wind is strong enough to cause so many leaves swirl. I can say I'm fearless and get out of it. I can get out of it by chipping my finger. I think a cool way to use this Genjutsu is by using it after a low ranked Wind tech in woods.

And that fear of spider reference, Harry Potter fan spotted.

I used to be a fan back when HP was really mainstream. I still have all the books though. U_U

Not really. This is basically a concealing genjutsu because the swirl conceals your body and your actions and even when it receeds the opponent doesn't see you anymore. You're right about it being a bit slow, but a few seconds is always up to debate and mostly depends on the pace of the battle as well as how well you put it to use. If you can properly execute it in a tight timeframe then it's possible to last, for example, 2 seconds, while if you're opening the battle with this move then the opponent might assume that it's taking a bit longer. I hope this makes sense.

 

[Sherlock.]

I used to be a fan back when HP was really mainstream. I still have all the books though. U_U

Not really. This is basically a concealing genjutsu because the swirl conceals your body and your actions and even when it receeds the opponent doesn't see you anymore. You're right about it being a bit slow, but a few seconds is always up to debate and mostly depends on the pace of the battle as well as how well you put it to use. If you can properly execute it in a tight timeframe then it's possible to last, for example, 2 seconds, while if you're opening the battle with this move then the opponent might assume that it's taking a bit longer. I hope this makes sense.

Okay understood Sensei. I think its better to use this when the opponent is not idle both mentally and physically (like you said at the start of the fight). His mind should be busy processing something else like reacting to another move of ours or something like that so he gets less time to react to this move. Its mostly "at the moment" kind of thing i.e. his mind should be preoccupied with something else when the Genjutsu starts and then a couple of seconds later he realizes the leaves are there and they reveal his worst fears to him as they fall away. Hope I'm making sense. ~_~

 

[McRazor]

Okay understood Sensei. I think its better to use this when the opponent is not idle both mentally and physically (like you said at the start of the fight). His mind should be busy processing something else like reacting to another move of ours or something like that so he gets less time to react to this move. Its mostly "at the moment" kind of thing i.e. his mind should be preoccupied with something else when the Genjutsu starts and then a couple of seconds later he realizes the leaves are there and they reveal his worst fears to him as they fall away. Hope I'm making sense. ~_~

Sorry for the bit of reduced activity this week, I was rather busy.

Yes, that's a very good conclusion. So basically, genjutsu isn't just good for starting a battle, although you will mostly always see that. A very few people use genjutsu during the battle but if you know how genjutsu is powerful and how to use it well then it can be as effective as an elemental technique. I'm an avid genjutsu user and I acquired a lot of custom genjutsus which allow me to intercept, fool and trick the opponent in various ways in various situations.

( Genjutsu: Kai ) - Illusion Technique: Release
Rank: C-S
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15-40
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user does one hand seal to focus and then proceeds to disturb his chakra flow by forcefully stopping it momentarily and then "spiking" his spiritual energy, unbalancing his chakra. This dispels any genjutsu set upon the user except MS Eye Techniques, Paralysis-like Genjutsu and Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant. The effectiveness of this technique is dependent upon the skill of the user. A Jounin rank ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to C-rank. An S-class ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to B-rank. A Sannin rank ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to A-rank. A Sage rank user can dispel Genjutsu up to S-Rank. The user may use this technique through physical contact on others to dispel them from Genjutsu. The technique can only be used once per turn and the user still needs to fully follow the logic as to why he figured out it was an illusion.

Kai! This is the technique considered as one of the release methods. Basically what it does is force a surge of chakra throughout your chakra system and by doing this it overwrites the genjutsu by creating a disturbance of the previous flow, the flow that the genjutsu was controlling. When you're under a genjutsu that basically means that the opponent is controlling your chakra flow by channeling it into different parts of your brain and so on and to get rid of that control you need a chakra spike. As you can see it's also multi-ranked which means that you can use the higher ranked variations depending on your rank so better start working on that post count. And finally, as the last sentence says this technique is just used to release the genjutsu but you still need to come up with a valid rationalization of why you think you're under a genjutsu.

 

[Sherlock.]

Sorry for the bit of reduced activity this week, I was rather busy.

Yes, that's a very good conclusion. So basically, genjutsu isn't just good for starting a battle, although you will mostly always see that. A very few people use genjutsu during the battle but if you know how genjutsu is powerful and how to use it well then it can be as effective as an elemental technique. I'm an avid genjutsu user and I acquired a lot of custom genjutsus which allow me to intercept, fool and trick the opponent in various ways in various situations.

( Genjutsu: Kai ) - Illusion Technique: Release
Rank: C-S
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15-40
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user does one hand seal to focus and then proceeds to disturb his chakra flow by forcefully stopping it momentarily and then "spiking" his spiritual energy, unbalancing his chakra. This dispels any genjutsu set upon the user except MS Eye Techniques, Paralysis-like Genjutsu and Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant. The effectiveness of this technique is dependent upon the skill of the user. A Jounin rank ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to C-rank. An S-class ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to B-rank. A Sannin rank ninja can dispel Genjutsu up to A-rank. A Sage rank user can dispel Genjutsu up to S-Rank. The user may use this technique through physical contact on others to dispel them from Genjutsu. The technique can only be used once per turn and the user still needs to fully follow the logic as to why he figured out it was an illusion.

Kai! This is the technique considered as one of the release methods. Basically what it does is force a surge of chakra throughout your chakra system and by doing this it overwrites the genjutsu by creating a disturbance of the previous flow, the flow that the genjutsu was controlling. When you're under a genjutsu that basically means that the opponent is controlling your chakra flow by channeling it into different parts of your brain and so on and to get rid of that control you need a chakra spike. As you can see it's also multi-ranked which means that you can use the higher ranked variations depending on your rank so better start working on that post count. And finally, as the last sentence says this technique is just used to release the genjutsu but you still need to come up with a valid rationalization of why you think you're under a genjutsu.

NP. RL is more important.
I knew you are a Gen and Ice expert. I was just wondering how strong your Hiruko Bio will be with Sharingan and Ice Release when I saw you got your first sacrifice. xD

Kai is pretty useful for getting out of high level Gen. It can spare the user the tremendous pain that the user might otherwise have to bear to get out of an A or S Rank Gen. I wouldn't use it for low ranked techs from which you can easily get out by just chipping your finger or causing yourself a minor injury. Kai costs us a move so if possible I willl always avoid it for low ranked techs where I can get my way out through minor injuries.

It says - This dispels any genjutsu set upon the user except MS Eye Techniques, Paralysis-like Genjutsu and Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant. Now if my ally and not me uses Kai to dispel these kind of Genjutsu used upon me, will it work?

Also I have another question. Its Sharingan Genjutsu related. If my opponent and I have no eye contact and first I cast him in normal Genjutsu and then quickly position my self such that I now have eye contact with him (he's already in a normal Gen), can I put him under Sharingan Gen now that we have eye contact? A double Gen where the first is a normal Gen and the second a Sharingan Gen.

We didn't do one D Rank jutsu. I think its the second last one in the Gen D Ranks list.

Edit - This is not training related and can be considered rather silly. I remember I wished you on 27th but when I le stalked you profile, I realized your b'day is on 26th July. That's pretty cool. My best bud's b'day is also on 26th. Lol

 

[McRazor]

NP. RL is more important.
I knew you are a Gen and Ice expert. I was just wondering how strong your Hiruko Bio will be with Sharingan and Ice Release when I saw you got your first sacrifice. xD

Kai is pretty useful for getting out of high level Gen. It can spare the user the tremendous pain that the user might otherwise have to bear to get out of an A or S Rank Gen. I wouldn't use it for low ranked techs from which you can easily get out by just chipping your finger or causing yourself a minor injury. Kai costs us a move so if possible I willl always avoid it for low ranked techs where I can get my way out through minor injuries.

It says - This dispels any genjutsu set upon the user except MS Eye Techniques, Paralysis-like Genjutsu and Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chant. Now if my ally and not me uses Kai to dispel these kind of Genjutsu used upon me, will it work?

Also I have another question. Its Sharingan Genjutsu related. If my opponent and I have no eye contact and first I cast him in normal Genjutsu and then quickly position my self such that I now have eye contact with him (he's already in a normal Gen), can I put him under Sharingan Gen now that we have eye contact? A double Gen where the first is a normal Gen and the second a Sharingan Gen.

We didn't do one D Rank jutsu. I think its the second last one in the Gen D Ranks list.

Edit - This is not training related and can be considered rather silly. I remember I wished you on 27th but when I le stalked you profile, I realized your b'day is on 26th July. That's pretty cool. My best bud's b'day is also on 26th. Lol

Exactly, well said. Also, not only does it cost you a move to do so but you also spend chakra for it.

No, the technique can't dispel those even if someone else used it. Those need some specific releases like much more powerful bursts of chakra, especially MS eye techniques.

I'm not a sharingan expert so I can't say for sure, but no matter what, you can't control your opponent unless you already have cast your sharingan genjutsu which allows you control of him. If he states that he avoids your eye contact I'm sure his movements in the genjutsu would translate into real life as well, so it might be tricky to position yourself correctly. Still, this is just my noobish assumption and you should ask a sharingan expert, like Madara Uchiha, for example.

 

[Sherlock.]

Exactly, well said. Also, not only does it cost you a move to do so but you also spend chakra for it.

No, the technique can't dispel those even if someone else used it. Those need some specific releases like much more powerful bursts of chakra, especially MS eye techniques.

I'm not a sharingan expert so I can't say for sure, but no matter what, you can't control your opponent unless you already have cast your sharingan genjutsu which allows you control of him. If he states that he avoids your eye contact I'm sure his movements in the genjutsu would translate into real life as well, so it might be tricky to position yourself correctly. Still, this is just my noobish assumption and you should ask a sharingan expert, like Madara Uchiha, for example.

Okay Understood Sensei.

 

[McRazor]

Okay Understood Sensei.

( Kori Shinchū no Jutsu ) - Sly Mind Affect Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion on the opponent that makes them believe they are travelling in a straight line, when instead they are moving in circles. This is only effective on moving opponents. If the opponent travels in the circle for hours, they will be exhausted.

A genjutsu that is useful when the opponent is charging at you. For example, if you're mid ranged and he wants to engage a hand to hand combat. When he runs at you, you cast this and he will believe that he's going towards you while he will follow an arc and this allows you to take advantage of that fact. The description says that he will travel in circle for hours but if you look at it realistically there's no way an opponent won't notice that something is wrong. A good use that I've witnessed is the foggy genjutsu mist of Kirigakure that has cast this genjutsu, tricking you into believing that you're traveling towards Kiri while you're actually circling in the open sea, but since then the NW has been or will be rebuilt. Btw. I want you do continue the training the same way we did so far, what group would you put this genjutsu in, how would you realize that you've been put under the genjutsu and how would you release yourself from it once you came with a conclusion.

 

[Sherlock.]

( Kori Shinchū no Jutsu ) - Sly Mind Affect Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion on the opponent that makes them believe they are travelling in a straight line, when instead they are moving in circles. This is only effective on moving opponents. If the opponent travels in the circle for hours, they will be exhausted.

A genjutsu that is useful when the opponent is charging at you. For example, if you're mid ranged and he wants to engage a hand to hand combat. When he runs at you, you cast this and he will believe that he's going towards you while he will follow an arc and this allows you to take advantage of that fact. The description says that he will travel in circle for hours but if you look at it realistically there's no way an opponent won't notice that something is wrong. A good use that I've witnessed is the foggy genjutsu mist of Kirigakure that has cast this genjutsu, tricking you into believing that you're traveling towards Kiri while you're actually circling in the open sea, but since then the NW has been or will be rebuilt. Btw. I want you do continue the training the same way we did so far, what group would you put this genjutsu in, how would you realize that you've been put under the genjutsu and how would you release yourself from it once you came with a conclusion.

This falls under the trickery style of Genjutsu cause we are tricking the opponent to believe they are running in a straight line when they are actually running in circles.

I'm assuming when we are inside this Gen we see ourselves running straight at our target but the distance between us just doesn't seem to reduce or the enemy just doesn't seem to get any closer(even if the enemy has already moved elsewhere).

So if I'm cast under this Genjutsu by my opponent I'll figure out its an illusion if I'm not reaching my target or if I'm not getting closer to them. There's a quicker way (though I'd call if more like metagaming). I can say I'm running at my opponent and while running I launch a projectile or throw a Kunai at him but instead of going straight, my attack travels at an odd angle and I quickly realize something is wrong and figure its a Genjutsu. Now if I were to follow the first way(realizing it must be a Gen after running up a bit) that gives my opponent enough time to kill me. However when I see my opponent using this jutsu(as in when I read the move), I can type in my reply that while running towards the opponent I used a projectile which travelled at an odd angle and then I quickly figured its a Gen.

I can get out of this Genjutsu by causing myself a minor injury like a shallow slash on my skin.

If I use this Genjutsu on my opponent, the next thing I do after casting this tech is hit my opponent with either a move that paralyses him(lightning moves for example) or something good(and quick) enough to kill him.

Edit - We haven't done the D ranked Mist Servent Tech.

 

[McRazor]

This falls under the trickery style of Genjutsu cause we are tricking the opponent to believe they are running in a straight line when they are actually running in circles.

I'm assuming when we are inside this Gen we see ourselves running straight at our target but the distance between us just doesn't seem to reduce or the enemy just doesn't seem to get any closer(even if the enemy has already moved elsewhere).

So if I'm cast under this Genjutsu by my opponent I'll figure out its an illusion if I'm not reaching my target or if I'm not getting closer to them. There's a quicker way (though I'd call if more like metagaming). I can say I'm running at my opponent and while running I launch a projectile or throw a Kunai at him but instead of going straight, my attack travels at an odd angle and I quickly realize something is wrong and figure its a Genjutsu. Now if I were to follow the first way(realizing it must be a Gen after running up a bit) that gives my opponent enough time to kill me. However when I see my opponent using this jutsu(as in when I read the move), I can type in my reply that while running towards the opponent I used a projectile which travelled at an odd angle and then I quickly figured its a Gen.

I can get out of this Genjutsu by causing myself a minor injury like a shallow slash on my skin.

If I use this Genjutsu on my opponent, the next thing I do after casting this tech is hit my opponent with either a move that paralyses him(lightning moves for example) or something good(and quick) enough to kill him.

Edit - We haven't done the D ranked Mist Servent Tech.

The quicker way is not quite true. If you were running at the opponent for a bit before performing the technique you would already be out of the initial trajectory and your attack would never hit him and it would pretty much keep on going in the illusion without ever reaching him. What you can do though, is use sound. So you throw a kunai and listen while you keep running after it. In the illusion you will see it in front of you, while you will hear the sound of kunai move around you as you're making the circle in reality.

 

[Sherlock.]

The quicker way is not quite true. If you were running at the opponent for a bit before performing the technique you would already be out of the initial trajectory and your attack would never hit him and it would pretty much keep on going in the illusion without ever reaching him. What you can do though, is use sound. So you throw a kunai and listen while you keep running after it. In the illusion you will see it in front of you, while you will hear the sound of kunai move around you as you're making the circle in reality.

@Bolded means me performing my projectile tech I think?

And understood the rest. This Gen kinda changed my way of thinking about Genjutsu. Earlier I used to think a Gen that is harder to break is the most awesome but this one showed me a Gen that is harder to figure out is equally awesome.

 

[McRazor]

@Bolded means me performing my projectile tech I think?

And understood the rest. This Gen kinda changed my way of thinking about Genjutsu. Earlier I used to think a Gen that is harder to break is the most awesome but this one showed me a Gen that is harder to figure out is equally awesome.

Yes, and I'm glad you did. This is my personal mission, to make you love genjutsu and see how amazing it is. I'm just so passionate about it and there's nothing better than passing on the same passion onto someone else. I managed to do it with Dragy and hopefully I'll do it with you.

( Genjutsu: Jinmon ) - Illusion Technique: Interrogation
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points:30
Description: The user of this technique, upon casting on a stationary opponent with physical contact with them, is able to convince the enemy to give away information. However, this will only work on ninja two ranks lower and below than the caster.

Oh well, not really useful in my opinion. If you had a non-NW fight with someone you could force him to tell you his KG and stuff like that, but why go through the trouble of that instead of just finding it out the old fashioned way, by fighting. Sooner or later when the opponent finds himself in a bad situation he will resort to his hidden abilities and that's when you get to know who you're fighting so there's no use for this technique. And on top of that it works only against much weaker opponents.

 

[Sherlock.]

Yes, and I'm glad you did. This is my personal mission, to make you love genjutsu and see how amazing it is. I'm just so passionate about it and there's nothing better than passing on the same passion onto someone else. I managed to do it with Dragy and hopefully I'll do it with you.

( Genjutsu: Jinmon ) - Illusion Technique: Interrogation
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost:15
Damage Points:30
Description: The user of this technique, upon casting on a stationary opponent with physical contact with them, is able to convince the enemy to give away information. However, this will only work on ninja two ranks lower and below than the caster.

Oh well, not really useful in my opinion. If you had a non-NW fight with someone you could force him to tell you his KG and stuff like that, but why go through the trouble of that instead of just finding it out the old fashioned way, by fighting. Sooner or later when the opponent finds himself in a bad situation he will resort to his hidden abilities and that's when you get to know who you're fighting so there's no use for this technique. And on top of that it works only against much weaker opponents.

The description says "is able to convince the enemy" which means when in this Genjutsu the victim doesn't just give the info outright away, he hesitates and then is convinced by the enemy to to spew out all info. If I'm caught in this tech and when my emotions about answering start conflicting, I'll quickly get out of physical contact by either moving or trying to attack my opponent with a weapon(that will make him move) or using surge(it will not only get me out of the Gen but my opponent will back off as well). I think this Genjutsu requires physical contact so getting out of the physical contact should get me out of the Gen too. If not, I can slash myself with a minor cut to get out of it. I agree this isn't a very practical Genjutsu. It has use only in NW but most people who post in NW are mostly Kage and Sage Rank and few Sannin Rank. Anyways most NW fights are flashy with hax techs so I don't think anybody actually uses it.

 

[McRazor]

The description says "is able to convince the enemy" which means when in this Genjutsu the victim doesn't just give the info outright away, he hesitates and then is convinced by the enemy to to spew out all info. If I'm caught in this tech and when my emotions about answering start conflicting, I'll quickly get out of physical contact by either moving or trying to attack my opponent with a weapon(that will make him move) or using surge(it will not only get me out of the Gen but my opponent will back off as well). I think this Genjutsu requires physical contact so getting out of the physical contact should get me out of the Gen too. If not, I can slash myself with a minor cut to get out of it. I agree this isn't a very practical Genjutsu. It has use only in NW but most people who post in NW are mostly Kage and Sage Rank and few Sannin Rank. Anyways most NW fights are flashy with hax techs so I don't think anybody actually uses it.

You're right about it. Not much to add.

( Genjutsu: Jigoku Gouka ) - Illusion Technique: Hell Fire
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion where the opponent sees a huge ball of fire descending from the sky and enveloping its target.

As you can see this one is very simple and straight forward but due to its simplicity there's so much ways to use it effectively. What and how would you use it with? I'll be the student and you tell me everything that comes to your mind about this jutsu.

 

[Sherlock.]

You're right about it. Not much to add.

( Genjutsu: Jigoku Gouka ) - Illusion Technique: Hell Fire
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The user casts an illusion where the opponent sees a huge ball of fire descending from the sky and enveloping its target.

As you can see this one is very simple and straight forward but due to its simplicity there's so much ways to use it effectively. What and how would you use it with? I'll be the student and you tell me everything that comes to your mind about this jutsu.

A simple but useful tech. I think this is one of those techs where it takes time to figure out that its an illusion. The user creates an illusion where the opponent sees a fireball descending from the sky upon them. Normally in an illusion when you see something approaching you, like the clone in Servant tech, you can quickly spot that its a Gen by deducting that the clone has no shadow cast on the ground. But that reasoning won't work in the case of the fireball. The fireball is nowhere near the ground but its descending from the sky. In case of shadows, higher an object is from the ground, further away is its shadow from the point where it will land. So until the fireball comes near the ground(and the opponent), the shadow reasoning cannot be used. This technique fails badly when the battle is going on water or ice surface cause the moment the opponent sees the fire ball has no reflection in the water or on the ice surface, he will know its not real. The opponent can figure out its a Gen when the fireball comes near him and he can't feel the heat of the fireball. But that's actually time consuming. The opponent can figure out its a Gen if he doesn't hear the sound of flames. If there is wind blowing in the terrain and when the fireball descends but you can't see the flames blowing a little in the direction of the wind, then its not real but an illusion. A cool way to use this is just after using a multiple projectile fire tech. I'd first use a projectile where after firing multiple shots at my opponent, I'd shot one in the sky and then would bluff "How do you plan on taking care of the huge fireball that will hit you from above and burn you to ashes?" Then I'd use this tech to fool my opponent. One can come out of this tech by causing themselves a minor injury like a small slash in the skin.