[Discussion] Seriously sasuke hate needs to stop

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The fanboy war on this site will never end why does everyone get so mad that one person has a different opinon than the other? the manga we disscuss is about ninja where anything could happen where people like konahamru could kill one of pains bodys thats a genin beating a hokage level opponent hell the two main characters are still genin yet they are both beyond kage level in strength i made this thread because the idiots on this site underrate certain characters way too much bro 1st things 1st the only people on par with current sasuke are the strongest ninja in history no ifs ands or butts all sannin will lose all kages will lose besides the 1st nd 2nd hokage but if the second uses no edo tensai hes ****ed too any other countrys kage would do the same as their doing against madara failing think c about it this way sasuke is heir to the head of the uchiha clan (his father was the leader of the police force) in the times of no village the uchiha were only equal to the senju which means uchiha > every other clan besides senju dont you think with these stats the kids going to be a beast ?? currently one on one sasuke shines since almost all his moves are deadly chidori amatersu kirin sussano arrows and enton manipulation im not saying sasuke is the all around best but he has the tools to beat anyone in the naruto verse if used in the right conditions even you sasuke haters cant deny that fact. the biggest bar to measure sasuke has been these nagato vs sasuke threads nagato loses this due to immboility and no counter to amatersu and dont say it gets absorbed if nagato could absorb it he would have when itachi hit him with it chibaku tensai is countered by sussano arrows to the core before it gets to many rocks around it (arrows are lightning fast btw ;) taijutsu is sasukes due to speed prediction abbilites with the sharingan and mobility and never has the manga stated that nagato is immune to genjutsu until i see that i wont believe it the plain truth is tobi madara and naruto are the only shinobi on par in a one on one situation with sasuke and you could add itachi if he was edo if not ms drawbacks would decide the fight not being a fanboy im being realistic people hes the second most important character bro look how many people praise his power





the kyubbi himself was suprised he was so powerful countless ninjaa? and shi was one of the most powerful ninja in the hidden cloud sasuke one shotted him guys hes skilled so like i said tobi edo madara and naruto are the only ninja currently capable of seriousssslyy overpowering him any other ninja will lose and ill argue with anyone who doesnt believe so BRING IT!
dude the more hate towards sasuke the better, you see the sharingan get more powerful as u get more hate as stated by tobi.

So we are actually powering sasuke up for you.


Also if the manga fans hate a certain character that means kishi is doing a good job as hate is the same passion as love.


I hate sasuke and look forward to the future chapters where sasuke fails. And will enjoy the manga more as a result.
 
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HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY IT IS I the great kamina uchiha i want to say he is indeed powerful but think how strong he is he pimps kakashi easily took raikage arm who is on tailed beast level quickily develops new jutsu i mean when you first saw kirin did you expect that epic ish but the only ninja that could beat sasuke lets see naruto, masked man (maybe), Madara, well kabuto could have probably he was very underrated but moving on lets see the 1st sasuke is OP man i mean he is a main character and thus should be respected as such but Madara pwnz all
 

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currently one on one sasuke shines since almost all his moves are deadly chidori amatersu kirin sussano arrows and enton manipulation im not saying sasuke is the all around best but he has the tools to beat anyone in the naruto verse if used in the right conditions even you sasuke haters cant deny that fact. the biggest bar to measure sasuke has been these nagato vs sasuke threads nagato loses this due to immboility and no counter to amatersu and dont say it gets absorbed if nagato could absorb it he would have when itachi hit him with it chibaku tensai is countered by sussano arrows to the core before it gets to many rocks around it (arrows are lightning fast btw ;) taijutsu is sasukes due to speed prediction abbilites with the sharingan and mobility and never has the manga stated that nagato is immune to genjutsu until i see that i wont believe it the plain truth is tobi madara and naruto are the only shinobi on par in a one on one situation with sasuke and you could add itachi if he was edo if not ms drawbacks would decide the fight not being a fanboy im being realistic people hes the second most important character bro look how many people praise his power
the kyubbi himself was suprised he was so powerful countless ninjaa? and shi was one of the most powerful ninja in the hidden cloud sasuke one shotted him guys hes skilled so like i said tobi edo madara and naruto are the only ninja currently capable of seriousssslyy overpowering him any other ninja will lose and ill argue with anyone who doesnt believe so BRING IT!
First off, this could have been a lot easier to read with a little punctuation.

The problem with Sasuke isn't his power or his ability to win fights. Yes, I think most people here would agree that Sasuke is pretty powerful and would be able to win against most other ninja in a fair fight. It's the question of how he got that power, and what he does with it that makes many people not like him.

Sasuke is a pawn. He's a toy that stronger and better ninja have used for various purposes: Itachi made several detailed plans about Sasuke's life, including the fact that Sasuke was going to kill Itachi eventually and take Itachi's eyes. Orochimaru made several plans about Sasuke and manipulated him to do various things. In a certain way of looking at things, the Leaf village also tried manipulating him, to keep him away from Orochimaru, to keep him away from Itachi, and to train him to be some kind of hero or savior type. After Orochimaru and Itachi were dead, Tobi was able to manipulate Sasuke too. Remember that Sasuke wanted to go get revenge on the Leaf village, but Tobi convinced him to join Akatsuki and go on several missions instead (Capture Killer Bee, Fight the kage, Kill Danzo, etc)? Remember Tobi talking about all his plans for Sasuke: Give Sasuke Itachi's eyes (already done), synchronize Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo, and force Sasuke to fight Naruto? Tobi has these plans because HE KNOWS HE CAN MAKE THEM HAPPEN if he wants. Tobi knows that Sasuke is easy to manipulate, and he's been doing a great job of manipulating him.

Where does Sasuke get all his power from? He gets power from two places: First, he's an Uchiha so he's born with special eyes and lots of potential. Second, he gets power from other people who give it to him. Where did Sasuke learn Chidori? Kakashi gave it to him. Where did Sasuke get his cursed seal, which was the major source of his power in part 1, and the beginning of part 2? From Orochimaru. Where did Sasuke get his training and other medical enhancements? From Orochimaru. Where did he get his snake techniques and snake summons? From Orochimaru. Where did Sasuke get his EMS eyes? From Itachi (and implanted by Tobi). The only thing we can say that Sasuke has gained for himself have been his MS (grief after the death of Itachi) and his hawk summon. People generally give Sasuke things because they think that he's somehow special and because they know they can manipulate him.

Let's also take a look at how Sasuke uses his power. What are Sasuke's motivations? In part 1 and the early part 2 his motivations were to find and kill Itachi. This was because he had been manipulated into following the path that Itachi set for him, and he followed it blindly. He joined Orochimaru for the same reason, and eventually killed Orochimaru because he realized he had more power by himself. Now, in the most recent chapters he wants to bring Orochimaru back again! I guess it was a mistake to kill him in the first place, when he could have just escaped.

Why did Sasuke fight Killer Bee? Sasuke didn't have the kinds of peace motivations that Nagato or Itachi had. He didn't have the world domination motivations that that Tobi and Madara had. Sasuke's only motivation was blind vengence. Sasuke wanted a little bit more power for himself so he could succeed in destroying the village.

Sasuke killed Orochimaru. Oh wait, that was a mistake.

Sasuke killed Itachi. Oh wait, that might have been a mistake too.

Sasuke tried to capture Killer Bee to gain a Bijuu to increase his power, but he seems to have forgotten about that.

Sasuke attacked the kages for...what? He claimed that he wanted to kill Danzo, but he spent all his time fighting everybody else instead.

He said he doesn't want Itachi's eyes. Then suddenly he does want them. He wants to find and kill Naruto, but then he wanted to find Itachi and NOW he wants to find Orochimaru instead.

Sasuke claimed he wanted to kill Madara for helping with the Uchiha massacre then he helped Tobi (who he thought WAS Madara) on several missions. Even now, he still doesn't act like he wants to kill Tobi OR Madara, even though he once said he was going to.

He put together his team of people, but then he abandoned Suigetsu and Juugo, and even tried to kill Karin himself. Why bother putting together a team at all if you're just going to abandon or kill them?

He claimed he wanted to kill Kabuto. But now Kabuto is defenseless and Sasuke isn't killing him. Why not? He's got a perfect opportunity to do it and it makes all the sense in the world.

The big problem with Sasuke, from the standpoint of character development, is that he has no clear motivations. He says one thing then does another. Everytime he talks to somebody he changes his mind and does something else. He's easy to manipulate, and the smarter, stronger enemies have been manipulating him for the entire manga. Sasuke's entire story is about him following paths that other people laid out for him until the very end when he suddenly jumps onto some other path, often in a stupid and violent way.

tl;dr: Sasuke is strong, yes. But he's stupid, selfish, easy to manipulate, has no clear goals or motivations, changes his mind and his goals every time somebody speaks to him. He wants revenge against the people who didn't hurt him (Naruto, the Leaf Village), and doesn't want revenge against the people who actually did (Tobi, Madara, Kabuto). He's a lousy character, even if some of his skills look sort of cool.
 

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First off, this could have been a lot easier to read with a little punctuation.

The problem with Sasuke isn't his power or his ability to win fights. Yes, I think most people here would agree that Sasuke is pretty powerful and would be able to win against most other ninja in a fair fight. It's the question of how he got that power, and what he does with it that makes many people not like him.

Sasuke is a pawn. He's a toy that stronger and better ninja have used for various purposes: Itachi made several detailed plans about Sasuke's life, including the fact that Sasuke was going to kill Itachi eventually and take Itachi's eyes. Orochimaru made several plans about Sasuke and manipulated him to do various things. In a certain way of looking at things, the Leaf village also tried manipulating him, to keep him away from Orochimaru, to keep him away from Itachi, and to train him to be some kind of hero or savior type. After Orochimaru and Itachi were dead, Tobi was able to manipulate Sasuke too. Remember that Sasuke wanted to go get revenge on the Leaf village, but Tobi convinced him to join Akatsuki and go on several missions instead (Capture Killer Bee, Fight the kage, Kill Danzo, etc)? Remember Tobi talking about all his plans for Sasuke: Give Sasuke Itachi's eyes (already done), synchronize Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo, and force Sasuke to fight Naruto? Tobi has these plans because HE KNOWS HE CAN MAKE THEM HAPPEN if he wants. Tobi knows that Sasuke is easy to manipulate, and he's been doing a great job of manipulating him.

Where does Sasuke get all his power from? He gets power from two places: First, he's an Uchiha so he's born with special eyes and lots of potential. Second, he gets power from other people who give it to him. Where did Sasuke learn Chidori? Kakashi gave it to him. Where did Sasuke get his cursed seal, which was the major source of his power in part 1, and the beginning of part 2? From Orochimaru. Where did Sasuke get his training and other medical enhancements? From Orochimaru. Where did he get his snake techniques and snake summons? From Orochimaru. Where did Sasuke get his EMS eyes? From Itachi (and implanted by Tobi). The only thing we can say that Sasuke has gained for himself have been his MS (grief after the death of Itachi) and his hawk summon. People generally give Sasuke things because they think that he's somehow special and because they know they can manipulate him.

Let's also take a look at how Sasuke uses his power. What are Sasuke's motivations? In part 1 and the early part 2 his motivations were to find and kill Itachi. This was because he had been manipulated into following the path that Itachi set for him, and he followed it blindly. He joined Orochimaru for the same reason, and eventually killed Orochimaru because he realized he had more power by himself. Now, in the most recent chapters he wants to bring Orochimaru back again! I guess it was a mistake to kill him in the first place, when he could have just escaped.

Why did Sasuke fight Killer Bee? Sasuke didn't have the kinds of peace motivations that Nagato or Itachi had. He didn't have the world domination motivations that that Tobi and Madara had. Sasuke's only motivation was blind vengence. Sasuke wanted a little bit more power for himself so he could succeed in destroying the village.

Sasuke killed Orochimaru. Oh wait, that was a mistake.

Sasuke killed Itachi. Oh wait, that might have been a mistake too.

Sasuke tried to capture Killer Bee to gain a Bijuu to increase his power, but he seems to have forgotten about that.

Sasuke attacked the kages for...what? He claimed that he wanted to kill Danzo, but he spent all his time fighting everybody else instead.

He said he doesn't want Itachi's eyes. Then suddenly he does want them. He wants to find and kill Naruto, but then he wanted to find Itachi and NOW he wants to find Orochimaru instead.

Sasuke claimed he wanted to kill Madara for helping with the Uchiha massacre then he helped Tobi (who he thought WAS Madara) on several missions. Even now, he still doesn't act like he wants to kill Tobi OR Madara, even though he once said he was going to.

He put together his team of people, but then he abandoned Suigetsu and Juugo, and even tried to kill Karin himself. Why bother putting together a team at all if you're just going to abandon or kill them?

He claimed he wanted to kill Kabuto. But now Kabuto is defenseless and Sasuke isn't killing him. Why not? He's got a perfect opportunity to do it and it makes all the sense in the world.

The big problem with Sasuke, from the standpoint of character development, is that he has no clear motivations. He says one thing then does another. Everytime he talks to somebody he changes his mind and does something else. He's easy to manipulate, and the smarter, stronger enemies have been manipulating him for the entire manga. Sasuke's entire story is about him following paths that other people laid out for him until the very end when he suddenly jumps onto some other path, often in a stupid and violent way.

tl;dr: Sasuke is strong, yes. But he's stupid, selfish, easy to manipulate, has no clear goals or motivations, changes his mind and his goals every time somebody speaks to him. He wants revenge against the people who didn't hurt him (Naruto, the Leaf Village), and doesn't want revenge against the people who actually did (Tobi, Madara, Kabuto). He's a lousy character, even if some of his skills look sort of cool.
This.

Also his fans are ridiculous.
 

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I dont hate sasuke his a fictional character ..... but really kishi made him very dumb ... i mean itachi sacrfice everything for the vilage and sasuke whants to crush the vilage

Naruto is dumb because is goofy and he is a child he is not a grow up men at times he can be smart and look like a grown up

But sasuke he has experince so much he is a grow up men and he is still a dumb ass

I mean you understand a kid to be dumb but sasuke is the one who was forced to grow up and he still is dumb

And the fanboys of sasuke are very ignoranted ... they think all are haters its like seeing golum saying my precious
 

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Oh...reminds me of ''CRAAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIN, THIS ORANGE WILL NOT PEEEEEEEEEEL''
Sasuke is emo.
Thats why he is hated.
He never beats anyone on his own either.
He's pathetic and gets everything handed to him.
His fanboys are raging homosexuals.

Yep thats about it.
 

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i just dont hate anybody as much as the sasuke haters on this site lol hes a great ninja on a path of hate its not the 1st time lol we just see him more due to main character no jutsu
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7295282" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7295282">Uchiha boii said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> i just dont hate anybody as much as the sasuke haters on this site lol hes a great ninja on a path of hate its not the 1st time lol we just see him more due to main character no jutsu </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>maybe if you don't hate the haters, they wont think you are a fanboy hence they wont hate sasuke's fanboys for hating them and since most hate sasuke cause of his anoying fanboys they'll stop hating him.<br /> <br /> <br /> but lets face it he does not have any feats as a character and some people (like you) praise him a the god.<br /> everybody he killed was sick/blind/suicided....no feats at all. yet.</div>
 

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maybe if you don't hate the haters, they wont think you are a fanboy hence they wont hate sasuke's fanboys for hating them and since most hate sasuke cause of his anoying fanboys they'll stop hating him.


but lets face it he does not have any feats as a character and some people (like you) praise him a the god.
everybody he killed was sick/blind/suicided....no feats at all. yet.
your biased so now i gotta defend him and people are gunna call me a fanboy? oro killed the 3rd hokage? he needed to die ninja dont care if your sick or not in fact thats the best time to attack honor and right and wrong dont matter its the objective and did sasuke no itachi was sick? lol no that same itachi killed his parents in front of him he didnt care he had to die danzo was killed by sasuke kage level opponent lost fair and square tobi explained this himself ay effectlvely had help from two jonnin (one of them was one shotted cee) and still lost his arm sasuke rendered all of his high speed useless with a brilliant counter he beat countless ninja without killing one? if he has no feats neither does your favorite character lol not even trying to be a fanboy here but this is why his fans defend him hes badass
 

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You probably weren't around when he was really hated by everybody except his fans. Well, that was because he used to get all those powerups even, though, most readers thought that he didn't deserve them. Still, now since Naruto became so much stronger, it's pretty much all square now. As for me, I don't like how Kishi really took after DBZ - making one race (in Naruto - two clans) so much stronger than anything else in the planet..
 

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The fanboy war on this site will never end why does everyone get so mad that one person has a different opinon than the other? the manga we disscuss is about ninja where anything could happen where people like konahamru could kill one of pains bodys thats a genin beating a hokage level opponent hell the two main characters are still genin yet they are both beyond kage level in strength i made this thread because the idiots on this site underrate certain characters way too much bro 1st things 1st the only people on par with current sasuke are the strongest ninja in history no ifs ands or butts all sannin will lose all kages will lose besides the 1st nd 2nd hokage but if the second uses no edo tensai hes ****ed too
Not all Sasuke haters think he's weak. He's clearly one of the strongest characters, on par with Naruto, even if his latest fight with Kabuto was lackluster (but that's because it was Itachi's fight). Doesn't change the fact that he's a douche.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7297618" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7297618">Uchiha boii said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> your biased so now i gotta defend him and people are gunna call me a fanboy? oro killed the 3rd hokage? he needed to die ninja dont care if your sick or not in fact thats the best time to attack honor and right and wrong dont matter its the objective and did sasuke no itachi was sick? lol no that same itachi killed his parents in front of him he didnt care he had to die danzo was killed by sasuke kage level opponent lost fair and square tobi explained this himself ay effectlvely had help from two jonnin (one of them was one shotted cee) and still lost his arm sasuke rendered all of his high speed useless with a brilliant counter he beat countless ninja without killing one? if he has no feats neither does your favorite character lol not even trying to be a fanboy here but this is why his fans defend him hes badass </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Seems like you havent been paying attention to the manga/anime.<br /> Itachi wanted to die so killing him was no feat.<br /> Oroshimaru was sick and couldn't move so killing him was no big deal so not a feat.<br /> Ok Danzo was something,i forgot about that guy.<br /> <br /> And do you even know who my favorite characters are? Cause all of them sure have done things and have feats <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 

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your biased so now i gotta defend him and people are gunna call me a fanboy? oro killed the 3rd hokage? he needed to die ninja dont care if your sick or not in fact thats the best time to attack honor and right and wrong dont matter its the objective and did sasuke no itachi was sick? lol no that same itachi killed his parents in front of him he didnt care he had to die danzo was killed by sasuke kage level opponent lost fair and square tobi explained this himself ay effectlvely had help from two jonnin (one of them was one shotted cee) and still lost his arm sasuke rendered all of his high speed useless with a brilliant counter he beat countless ninja without killing one? if he has no feats neither does your favorite character lol not even trying to be a fanboy here but this is why his fans defend him hes badass
you are a fanboy!
 

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maybe if you don't hate the haters, they wont think you are a fanboy hence they wont hate sasuke's fanboys for hating them and since most hate sasuke cause of his anoying fanboys they'll stop hating him.


but lets face it he does not have any feats as a character and some people (like you) praise him a the god.
everybody he killed was sick/blind/suicided....no feats at all. yet.
yes its a visioous cycle,


Also by the waty OP, most of time ppl hate characters is because of their fanboys/girls.

For example u made a thread once that sasuke was the bet ever desipte he was owned in mostly every fight hes in. So u can see where the hate comes. Maybe urthe reason sasuke is hated?

All valid questions.
 

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They are butthurt because Sasuke handed Naruto's ass

multiple number of sorry times for GAYRUDO, end of story :rolleyes:


Don't worry Sasuke haters are only present in gay North America,

Both in Asia and Europe, Sasuke fans pwn these idiots, especially in Japan where it really counts :rolleyes:
 
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They are butthurt because Sasuke handed Naruto's ass

multiple number of sorry times for GAYRUDO, end of story :rolleyes:


Don't worry Sasuke haters are only present in gay North America,

Both in Asia and Europe, Sasuke fans pwn these idiots, especially in Japan where it really counts :rolleyes:
lol man when was this? i thought the fight at the end of part 1 was basiclly a draw really. One was trying to prove point(naruto hitting his forehead) and the other went for the attack(went for naruto's stomach).

They both would have knocked each other out if naruto went for blood. But their wouldnt be a part 2 either so meh.
 
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