Series power scale ranking.

[jiraiya lives]

0. Bleach (Aizen is black hole level U_U jkjk lol)

1. DBZ
2. Toriko (planetary level characters, reality warping, continental level low-mid tier beast, people who can stop the rotation of the planet with a simple tap, a forshadowed demon that eats stars)

3. Naruto (strongest of the big 3, though the verse isn't that strong on a whole excluding the top top tier)
4. One piece (people with haxed fruits, dropping meteors, many island level characters, prime top theirs could destroy the world, could be higher but the strength of the top tier is unknown)
5. Bleach (very powerful characters like Aizen, Yama, Ichigo, Keni, Zero division,)
6. HxH (the weakest verse but Togashi is about to make up for that with the dark continent arc, I wouldn't be surprised if HxH's powerscale increases exponentially with this arc)

 

[David1996]

OP has a stronger verse than Naruto's lol. It's kinda stupid to say Naruto's verse is stronger when most of them are completely ignored and are fodders for the most part. The only ones that stand out in the Naruto verse currently are, Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Madara, Kakashi, Kaguya, Gai & prob. Killer bee. I would add the kages but they solo'd by Madara...

OP's DF > Naruto's DF

Hahaha... nah. Naruto >>>>>>>>>>> OP in terms of power.

 

[Hexuze]

Hahaha... nah. Naruto >>>>>>>>>>> OP in terms of power.

Mind explaining how? I honestly don't understand how naruto fans find Madara destroying a couple of mountains (effortlessly) in PS being impressive. It's laughable if anything considering he has to be in his PS to complete that feat. Idk Naruto characters aren't that powerful compared to OP characters to me at least.

 

[David1996]

Neither do I, and I don't care about Madara destroying mountians.

But I'll tell you this... Naruto characters are much stronger offensively, because they can combine different ninjutsu, different taijutsu and different genjutsu. While OP characters can only have 1 kind of DF and 2/3 shared colours of haki.

Take Itachi for example. Who can survive Itachi from the OPverse ? Perfect ninjustu: Amatersu. Perfect Genjutsu: Tsukuyomi. With basic Taijutsu, and Susanoo on top of that.
With the amazing planning and intelligence aside.

Or BSM Naruto (BSM atleast nevermind Rikudo Naruto). A combination of TBB, Frog kata and Negative emotion sensing is lethal not only to an OP character but to any anime character.

Oda is more creative when giving powers to his characters. More creativity and less raw power, if you know what I mean. Naruto on the other hand is the opposite.

Saying OP>Naruto when it comes to power is unwise.
But that's your opinion, and I fully respect it.

 

[Hexuze]

Neither do I, and I don't care about Madara destroying mountians.

Well at least I can tell that you're not a Madara wanker. That's a good sign already

But I'll tell you this... Naruto characters are much stronger offensively, because they can combine different ninjutsu, different taijutsu and different genjutsu. While OP characters can only have 1 kind of DF and 2/3 shared colours of haki.

Much stronger? I hope you're exaggerating. I mean IMO OP is currently stronger but I don't think OP is A LOT stronger than Naruto as of right now, ofc it will change once we're introduced to more top tiers. Yeah from a power stand-point, that's pretty devastating but let's be honest... is there a lot of characters who excel in all 3 categories (ninjutsu, taijutsu & genjutsu)? No. I mean there's not many characters that excel in all three categories.

Having DF's + Haki is more than enough. Most if not all top tiers in OP, have their DF mastery down (not to the fullest but good enough) and at least 2/3 categories of haki. We're not even sure what the full extent of king's haki is right now but I'm sure it won't disappoint.

OP characters are strong offensively as well. We have WB who can cause tsunami's & earthquakes with just a single hand motion with EASE. There's BB who caused the sky to split in half with his new DF with little mastery. Akainu can rain down magma fist meteors and Aokiji can freeze oceans in a matter of seconds. Even law who is seen a bit of a noob compared to the top-tiers in OP, sliced a couple of mountains + a factory in one single swing. Also, WB had the power to destroy the world during his prime and we know that Roger is equal if not (most likely) stronger than prime WB. I'm sure you know the OP world is far bigger than the world in Naruto.

Also when top tiers in OP fight, there's a huge impact on their surroundings. I.E. Akainu vs Aokiji fight was on an island scale and it was to a point where it impacted the climate. They've also been fighting for 10 days, you'd barely see characters in Naruto that can fight for that long. The only prime example of a character in Naruto that can do that is the 3rd raikage.

Take Itachi for example. Who can survive Itachi from the OPverse ? Perfect ninjustu: Amatersu. Perfect Genjutsu: Tsukuyomi. With basic Taijutsu, and Susanoo on top of that.
With the amazing planning and intelligence aside.

Plenty: Doflamingo (can slice off his head with ease with just a finger twitch), Kuma, Magellan, Admirals, Yonko (WB included), etc. Why bring up Itachi? He isn't that strong and hasn't even reached his full potential. What's only good for him is his weapons but we have no idea what are the weaknesses for that. Logia's intangibility are good enough for genjutsu.

Or BSM Naruto (BSM atleast nevermind Rikudo Naruto). A combination of TBB, Frog kata and Negative emotion sensing is lethal not only to an OP character but to any anime character.

Lol Such underestimation. BSM Naruto won't do that well. What has Naruto done that's so impressive and is better than what a OP can do? At least Rikudo Naruto would be a better battle. Negative emotion sensing being lethal? Please elaborate on this one.

Oda is more creative when giving powers to his characters. More creativity and less raw power, if you know what I mean. Naruto on the other hand is the opposite.

Saying OP>Naruto when it comes to power is unwise.
But that's your opinion, and I fully respect it.

Less raw power? There's characters with good raw power and are DF users as well. OFC it's not that many but still more than how many characters excel in all three categories in Naruto.

I've already stated why, OP is dominant than Naruto in a power standpoint (destructive capabilities included).
Likewise sir. =D

 

[David1996]

1. You're right, not many excel at all 3, but my point is a ninja can mix up things more than a pirate/marine can do.
Take the 2 strongest admirals for an example...
Aokiji can only use ice, and Akainu can only use magma.
A guy like Hiruzen can use fire, earth, lighting, wind and water releases.

You see that's what I'm to say here. A ninja got more options and advantages, making him stronger.

Granted Aokiji survived 10 days with a DF disadvantage, but in the end he lost.

2. Well Whitebeard is as strong as Roger was so you'd expect him to be this strong.
OP characters are awesome offensively don't get me wrong, but they are 1 step behind Naruto characters, atleast for now.

3. I'd say the DD finger twitch is a cheap shot, Itachi can hit back up with a Tsukuyomi which will be a cheap shot from his side too because OP characters can't survive genjustu. But I don't see how the character you mentioned can beat itachi ? Is it because they are logia ?

Itachi ? I'm not a itachi fanboy but just can't this guy for all he's done.
For me technically, itachi's the best.

4. Not negative emotion sensing alone, but with frog kata and TBB.

NES acts like observation haki, alongside frog kata that can nullify armament haki. And ofc TBB as a top offensive technique.

5. Again I would say even if they don't excel in 3 or 2 they still end with plently of options (releases) to excel in.

 

[Hexuze]

1. You're right, not many excel at all 3, but my point is a ninja can mix up things more than a pirate/marine can do.
Take the 2 strongest admirals for an example...
Aokiji can only use ice, and Akainu can only use magma.
A guy like Hiruzen can use fire, earth, lighting, wind and water releases.

You see that's what I'm to say here. A ninja got more options and advantages, making him stronger.

Yeah you're right about Aokiji/Kuzan and I see you're point about the variety of elements that ninjas have but both ice/magma elements are deadly in their own right. Aokiji can literally freeze someone to death & Akainu is a walking volcano (literally).

Granted Aokiji survived 10 days with a DF disadvantage, but in the end he lost.

So, that just shows how powerful can haki be (both CoO & CoA) and I'm sure it'd help a lot in a battle with a character from Naruto.

2. Well Whitebeard is as strong as Roger was so you'd expect him to be this strong.
OP characters are awesome offensively don't get me wrong, but they are 1 step behind Naruto characters, atleast for now.

Do you mind providing examples? Like examples, that shows feats. bigger than what WB/Roger accomplished? Madara was close to obtaining that feat. but even if he did it's still arguable who'd win cause I'm sure OP's world is bigger than Naruto's world. I mean tbh only Uchiha's would be a hindrance in this fight due to how strong genjutsu's are. Naruto can be defeated with ease/minimal-effort by an admiral.

3. I'd say the DD finger twitch is a cheap shot, Itachi can hit back up with a Tsukuyomi which will be a cheap shot from his side too because OP characters can't survive genjustu. But I don't see how the character you mentioned can beat itachi ? Is it because they are logia ?

Not, in a crossover battle? It's cheap cause we've rarely seen Doffy do it in OP cause most characters are protected by plot (i.e. Luffy/Law). I can say the same thing about genjutsu as being a "cheap shot". Well Kuma can teleport characters in Naruto to space which is an instant death. Admirals are logia's which is pretty much intangibility for them, with an exception to Fujitora, Yonko's are most likely near the power level of WB so I'm sure they can deal with the top tiers in Naruto. The only hindrance would be the pre-TS admirals due to their logia ability. That's why people often say "Kizaru can solo the narutoverse" cause he's intangible plus he's faster than any character in Naruto.

Itachi ? I'm not a itachi fanboy but just can't this guy for all he's done.
For me technically, itachi's the best.

I don't think I called you a fanboy lol. If it seemed like I did then I apologize. Yeah Itachi has potential to be the best of his own verse but obviously plot was getting in the way of that.

4. Not negative emotion sensing alone, but with frog kata and TBB.

NES acts like observation haki, alongside frog kata that can nullify armament haki. And ofc TBB as a top offensive technique.

Observation haki is much more powerful. We've seen how powerful & useful it is, I mean look at Enel.... His observation haki is on an island scale.

 

[David1996]

1. They are damn tough hands down... they are very strong offensively and defensively. But they are top top tiers of OP. If they would go against top top tiers of OP like hashirama or tobirama they would loose.

2. We can't really talk about haki until we atleast see a flashback of the fight.
Nonetheless haki would help OP characters alot in fights against Naruto characters.

OP characters with no haki wouldn't survive at all tbh.

3. I'm not sure Kizaru is faster than Minato, Tobirama or Naruto...Kizaru is very overrated IMO.
The only thing he did is beat on supernova with no haki. Marco owned him.

I myself like creativity more than raw power... Naruto destroying mountians, Madara slicing mountians, Aokiji freezing seas. They sure look nice and get the fans amazed. But nah, I like creative powers.

G2 for example. I was amazed by the fact that Luffy used his rubber body to sustain extra blood pressure from the heart in order to enhance his speed and power.
That for me was better than seeing Aokiji use Ice age.

4. No no I'm just stating it because their are alot of Itachi fanboys around. And they love to exaggerate every thing about him.
No not really the plot? He surely had the potient to be much much stronger... but you don't need be the strongest to be considered one the best.

5. In a 1vs1 fight island scale obserative haki isn't an advantage. A much smaller range is good enough.

Debating with you is really nice YMS. I thought you'll be biased but you surprised me. You're not a tard.

 

[Hexuze]

1. What would Hashirama do to Akainu? He can't be harmed unless they have haki O_O And Akainu already has the advantage already.

2. True but it's quite obvious that Kuzan was using haki if they were fighting considering the element disadvantage.

3. Kizaru is faster, he moves at the speed of light. Marco did not own him, and Marco's regeneration is haxed as hell.

[video=youtube;_fkbYSbOAD8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fkbYSbOAD8[/video]

Yes Kizaru is overrated in the sense that fanboys think his attacks move at the speed of light. Kizaru's physical attack move at the speed of light, not his beams. I made a thread showing how overrated Kizaru is but him moving at the speed of light is correct.

4. Well I mean like Doflamingo won't immediately slice off a major character's head off. All characters from different series have their own share of top tiers that can literally r@pe someone within a matter of seconds. Most of those victims are protected by plot so that's why you don't really see the instant kill.

5. If it's a verse fight then yes.

LOL, It only comes off that I'm a tard whenever I attack narutards. I kinda stopped have hate threads against Naruto but sometimes it surprises me how blind Narutards are & what they love to defend (i.e. Naruto is not an inspiration from HxH). It really shocks me when people love to support that claim even there's factual evidence right in front of them and even when Kishi. admits it, they still deny it. Although people do tend to exaggerate it by calling it a rip-off, which I don't believe is the case.

 

[David1996]

1. There's nothing that can be done to logia DF users, unfortunatly. We can only assume that Naruto characters can land solid hits on them.
If thats the case then Hashirama takes it IMO. I don't think Akainu can survive the buddha, wood dragon and sage mode. Plus the 1st can get a little tricky with the clones and roshomons.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this one.

2. Surely, but to know the extent of help that his haki supplied during the battle, we got to atleast see a flashback.
The only type of haki that would make a huge difference IMO is king's haki.
Observation and Armament are the same to all haki users. (Observation can differ tho).

3. Minato uses FTG which is a jutsu thats right... but what about Naruto ? Who already surpassed his father in speed and isn't using FTG.
Kizaru can be intercepted by armament haki, like Rayleigh did before.
Naruto or Minato can't be intercepted by opponents on the other hand.

Nahh, that what makes Marco special, what makes him the 1st division commander of the WB pirates.

Trust me, it wouldn't take Kidd too long before he destroys Kizaru.

4. Like you mentioned before they are protected by the plot.

5. These are 2014 members lol. The probably just caught to Naruto. They are giving the series and us hardcore fans a bad name.

I myself don't inspiration, because all manga are inspired from DB one way or the other.

And yes Naruto part 1 is inspired from HxH but it's cool.

I hate ripping off tho... Saiyu from hxh being ripped off Goku's draft. Happy from fairy tail being a rip off puar. For example.

 

[Hexuze]

1. Well even if they can hit... what is Hash. going to do to Akainu? His buddha attacks will be useless against Akainu since he's magma. A wood dragon would do nothing to Akainu. It's literally like throwing trees in a volcano.

2. It is clear that they did battle and obviously Kuzan had to use Haki to at least some extent.

3. Rayleigh was able to intercept Kizaru cause of haki. It wasn't because Kizaru was slow or anything. Again showing, how helpful haki can be even when it's matched with haxed DF's. Kizaru is still faster than Minato/Naruto or any character in Naruto for that matter. It's speed of light vs. teleporting. lol

It'll take a long time for Kidd to meet up at Kizaru's strength and beat him. Kidd barely makes the top 20 list of OP.