[Spoilers] Senjutsu's true purpose!

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Simply by this one bit of information on the latest chapter, I think I've uncovered something.

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I think everyone had always wondered how the Sage had defeated the Juubi. Everyone always stated that it was simply because of his powerful sealing techniques. But throughout the manga, we've constantly learnt that you can't just seal something. Especially in the case of a bijuu, you have to weaken it.

How did the Sage weaken the Juubi? He didn't suddenly become powerful, no. He needed a way to weaken it, and so through some means, he created Senjutsu.

Bottom line, Senjutsu's real purpose and reason of creation was to defeat the Juubi. It was obvious the Sage was the one who created it, but we never really knew why. The only reason Senjutsu is the only thing that works on Obito right now is because Obito is covered in the Juubi's power.


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Sorry but I have to disagree my friend with you on that ;)

Senjutsu is Shinobi art which allows Shinobi to use nature energy to create Sage chakra

Sage chakra = Physical energy + Spiritual energy + nature energy:

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^^ Fukusaku explains it well..., just read it correctly ;)

And Juubi is just nature energy..., so no Juubi didn't create Senjutsu...:

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^^ Kurama describes Juubi as everywhere flowing around the planet energy , which Naruto understand as Nature energy and Kurama didn't correct him.

Besides Senjutsu isn't thing, it is mean to use Nature energy and mix it with your own chakra allowing you to get Sage chakra which amplify all your base stats.

And I agree that Sage of six paths having Sage mode before Juubi and use it to weaken.defeat Juubi make much more sense then Juubi use it.

So Sage chakra != Nature energy

Of course Juubi is source of chakra/nature energy but Sage of six paths figured out/created means to use that chakra aka Ninjutsu and use nature energy aka Senjutsu

JUUBI = SOURCE
Sage of six paths = MEANS TO USE SOURCE
 
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It was time, i miss sage mode, naruto actually worked his ass off real hard and yeah! Naruto shows sasuke and everyone your powers ;)
 

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you maybe right but the sage is strong even in his death bed as seen when he created the moon.
 

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you maybe right but the sage is strong even in his death bed as seen when he created the moon.

He had the juubi inside him :c

Sage mode of SO6P Vs Juubi, man i want to see some flashback of that fight.
 

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It was time, i miss sage mode, naruto actually worked his ass off real hard and yeah! Naruto shows sasuke and everyone your powers ;)

??? This post is a little irrelevant, don't you think?
 

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TOBIRAMA made a big deal about the TOAD GAMAKICHI so the sage might have been that name on the scroll between JIRAIYA and NARUTO... those that become SAGE.. Minato's name isn't on there and he didn't become a Sage..
 

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Simply by this one bit of information on the latest chapter, I think I've uncovered something.

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I think everyone had always wondered how the Sage had defeated the Juubi. Everyone always stated that it was simply because of his powerful sealing techniques. But throughout the manga, we've constantly learnt that you can't just seal something. Especially in the case of a bijuu, you have to weaken it.

How did the Sage weaken the Juubi? He didn't suddenly become powerful, no. He needed a way to weaken it, and so through some means, he created Senjutsu.

Bottom line, Senjutsu's real purpose and reason of creation was to defeat the Juubi. It was obvious the Sage was the one who created it, but we never really knew why.

But Senjutsu came from the Juubi :I
 

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Finaly the legacy from Jiraya gets some worth!!
 

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Oh snap! I read that as "Suigetsu's true purpose"! Eeyup, I think it's about time for me to go to sleep.
 

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forget jiraiya and that weak tech plot is whats keeping them alive and all of you fans know it
 

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Explain why it is the only thing that works on Obito then.

It works because natural energy is not bound to light and dark style, consider it to be the wuji to yin and yang.

Yin/yang makes chakra and chakra makes ninjutsu

but natural energy is neither of them thus its not bounded to yin/yang and not a ninjutsu
 

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It works because natural energy is not bound to light and dark style, consider it to be the wuji to yin and yang.

Yin/yang makes chakra and chakra makes ninjutsu

but natural energy is neither of them thus its not bounded to yin/yang and not a ninjutsu

Which is why it was created to counter the Juubi. The Juubi obviously had the power to repel all Ninjutsu like Obito can now that he has absorbed it, so the Sage developed Senjutsu in order to counter that power. Please provide facts to support your 'Senjutsu comes from the Juubi' argument.
 

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Which is why it was created to counter the Juubi. The Juubi obviously had the power to repel all Ninjutsu like Obito can now that he has absorbed it, so the Sage developed Senjutsu in order to counter that power. Please provide facts to support your 'Senjutsu comes from the Juubi' argument.

Senjutsu CAME from the Juubi :I you cant deny that, any reader of the manga currently knows this, the Juubi is the progenitor of ALL things, thus it came from the juubi

Again senjutsu is not bound to yin/yang style who knows, senjutsu could be yin/yang in a different shape and form it gave life if you check out kabuto's fight with itachi/sasuke
 

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Or it might be the SO6P learn Sage Mode from one of the Sages Mode of His time and used it on the Juubi. If you think of the Juubi as the manifestation of Chaos in the flesh, then the Animal Sages were the Lords of Oder in creation. A balance in Nature.
 

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Well I believe so as well, Rikudou Sennin must had something against Juubi. Still in the manga Rikudou Sennin had the staff before and while fighting Juubi, meanwhile Obito suddenly got the staff when he became Juubi's Jinchuuriki. It kinda mind fuack me there.
 

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Senjutsu CAME from the Juubi :I you cant deny that, any reader of the manga currently knows this, the Juubi is the progenitor of ALL things, thus it came from the juubi

Again senjutsu is not bound to yin/yang style who knows, senjutsu could be yin/yang in a different shape and form it gave life if you check out kabuto's fight with itachi/sasuke

That is so blatantly obvious it made my brain hurt. Of course the roots of it were created by the Juubi.

Let me give you an example. Paper is made from trees. If God created trees, does that mean he created paper?

/your argument
 

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That is so blatantly obvious it made my brain hurt. Of course the roots of it were created by the Juubi.

Let me give you an example. Paper is made from trees. If God created trees, does that mean he created paper?

/your argument

Dont try to be a smartass bro, its ok if you don't understand, you're not a genius you're not omniscient :)

senjutsu is not made from yin/yang it seems you did not understand it your comparing is proof of it
 

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Senjutsu CAME from the Juubi :I you cant deny that, any reader of the manga currently knows this, the Juubi is the progenitor of ALL things, thus it came from the juubi

Again senjutsu is not bound to yin/yang style who knows, senjutsu could be yin/yang in a different shape and form it gave life if you check out kabuto's fight with itachi/sasuke

Sorry but I have to disagree my friend with you on that ;)

Senjutsu is Shinobi art which allows Shinobi to use nature energy to create Sage chakra

Sage chakra = Physical energy + Spiritual energy + nature energy:

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You must be registered for see images


^^ Fukusaku explains it well..., just read it correctly ;)

And Juubi is just nature energy..., so no Juubi didn't create Senjutsu...:

You must be registered for see images


^^ Kurama describes Juubi as everywhere flowing around the planet energy , which Naruto understand as Nature energy and Kurama didn't correct him.

Besides Senjutsu isn't thing, it is mean to use Nature energy and mix it with your own chakra allowing you to get Sage chakra which amplify all your base stats.

And I agree that Sage of six paths having Sage mode before Juubi and use it to weaken.defeat Juubi make much more sense then Juubi use it.

So Sage chakra != Nature energy

Of course Juubi is source of chakra/nature energy but Sage of six paths figured out/created means to use that chakra aka Ninjutsu and use nature energy aka Senjutsu

JUUBI = SOURCE
Sage of six paths = MEANS TO USE SOURCE
 
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