Senjutsu Rinnegan

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I've done some thinking, and I've come up with an explanation as to why Sasuke's Rinnegan seems "different" from the "standard" Rinnegan:
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Sasuke is using natural energy.


To start with, Sasuke is an expert at controlling natural energy, and it was this talent that was suggested by Tobirama and Orochimaru as part of Sasuke's progress.
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Recalling, the Curse mark Sasuke originally possessed, was a way to give him Senjutsu.
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I believe the "tomoe" of the Rinnegan are now playing the Curse mark role. That is, rather than representing the Sharingan, they represent the presence of natural energy. Nothing suggests more than Sasuke using the old familiar Chidori.

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But, where does this leave the "Sharingan"?

I think the two are different aspects of Shinju's eye [Which was recently called Rinnegan] by Madara. I don't necessarily believe "Rinnegan" is an official term, but rather, "Rinnegan" is one aspect of the eye, and "Sharingan" being the other.

Basically, "Rinnegan" is exactly what it means ["Samsara eye"].
"Sharingan" carries other aspects.


I'll elaborate on this if anyone asks me to.
 

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Makes sense n I see where your going I agree.
 

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Very likely. It could explain why he can use the black Chidori, even though he doesn't appear to have the Curse Mark. Honestly, there is nothing else that I know of that suggest he is not using Senjutsu Chidori.
 

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Very interesting, he does seem to be using senjutsu, that is how he managed to attack Madara along with Naruto. But I'm curious on your thoughts, what do you think that commas Madara was referring to with Sasuke? I thought that might have something to do his Rinnegan.
 

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Hard concept to chew on Blink.

If solely utilizing Natural energy give's such an application to the Rin'negan then what of Hagoromo and Madara who both had access to Sennin Modo but never surfaced such a Douryoku?

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Very interesting, he does seem to be using senjutsu, that is how he managed to attack Madara along with Naruto. But I'm curious on your thoughts, what do you think that commas Madara was referring to with Sasuke? I thought that might have something to do his Rinnegan.
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"Choku-tomoe" was referring to the eternal Mangekyo Sharingan.


Hard concept to chew on Blink.

If solely utilizing Natural energy give's such an application to the Rin'negan then what of Hagoromo and Madara who both had access to Sennin Modo but never surfaced such a Douryoku?

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For the old man, this was suggested back during the Izanagi explanation.
For Madara though, I don't know why his eye doesn't not look the same.
 

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Isn't Madara using senjutsu as well? Why doesn't he have the same then?
 

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Wow, another reason why Lord Sasuke is miles better than the other flop
 

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Would you have a link to that Izanagi explanation?

Hmmm...regarding that eye; I'm not sure as it's true that even without Hagoromo's power up Sasuke was destined to awaken the Rin'negan. Perhaps compiling the power-up unto that caused an effect? I'm not sure. However, I'm led to believe that that this is the original Rin'negan [ ] and Rikudo's Rin'negan, Indra's Mangekyo and the modern day Sharingan only surfaced as the Ocular power granted by the fruit suffered attenuation----it was partially passed on from Kaguya -> Hagoromo -> Indra, ect.

Madara and Hagoromo are the the reasons why I doubt Senjutsu is the root cause and effect.
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Seems plausible... Good thinking :3

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Not bad but i find it more related to genetics in this case.
Kaguya had "sharinnegan" lol
Hagoromo got only rinnegan from her.
Indra got sharingan.
Then Ashura.

Basically hagoromo received kaguya genetics but failed to awaken his sharingan, he got only rinnegan - 1 piece.
Indra managed to awaken sharingan but not rinnegan due to lacking ashura's chakra from his father - another piece.
Madara got rinnegan from mixing indra's and ashura's chakras thus awakening hagoromos chakra and rinnegan - 1 piece.
Sasuke got indra's chakra and hagoromo's one thus 2 pieces to awaken kaguya's eye.

Now you may say but madara had sharingan from indra, true but ashura's chakra holds him back and forces hagoromo's genetics upon madara, sasuke doesnt have this problem.
 

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Sasuke is not using Senjutsu, he's amplifying his jutsu with natural energy.
 

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No he is not using natural energy, because Naruto has the Senjutsu of the Six. Why you guys always making such threads and claim Sasuke is using SM. Sasuke is using Yin chakra this is the reason why his chidori changed the color.
 
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