Senju Bros... Manga/Anime

[Ebisu]

You cannot solo something that you do not understand.

Fillers = part of the anime storyline. It doesn't matter what they are used for. Only thing manga and anime have in common are the characters and places.. that is pretty much it. The character movement and storyline are different. Why? Because Kishimoto gave them the creative rights to make something different from his product in the animated universe.

And you are telling me that Gintama works on Naruto also? Cause you fail to understand different people = different purposes. They can easily stop the creation of Naruto-anime till the manga is done. But again its all about the MONEY.

Kishimoto/Oda/Kubo = ALL IN FOR THE MONEY.

They gave away copyrights = ALL FOR THE MONEY.

I am done with you , you brought in marvel and dc , while I am using jump comics to explain the manga industry to you.

 

[KingHashirama]

I am done with you , you brought in marvel and dc , while I am using jump comics to explain the manga industry to you.

holy sh*t you were trying to solo me, but you just solo'd yourself, by saying i brought in marvel and dc.. rofl.

Also, you aren't trying to explain the manga industry, you are giving me the reason of 1 person for why his anime creates fillers... I'm giving you the over all purpose for why they create stuff that isn't in the manga..

 

[Ebisu]

holy sh*t you were trying to solo me, but you just solo'd yourself, by saying i brought in marvel and dc.. rofl.

Wow how dumb are you reread your own posts you even broughtin star wars.I

 

[KingHashirama]

Wow how dumb are you reread your own posts you even broughtin star wars.I

Was talking to you? no.... so no i did not bring them in our conversation.

And if you clearly read, Necro was the one to mention star wars.

 

[-Spoiler-]

They are fillers when compared to the manga. They aren't fillers when solely in the anime.

You really must be naive, to believe even without those fillers, anime and manga have the same storyline.. Hey i'm just saying....

And show me the proof from Hayate, saying they create fillers just to stall time. Cause I can tell you that its a damn fact they create the anime long to create money.

And "fillers even exist in comic books".. holy sh*t i'm done man.

@bold issue #9 actions comics 2012 a filler issue.

@underline lol what? its the same storyline i watch anime and read the manga its the same storyline there is a few errors from time to time but its the same thing. when do you think the rinnegan was changed from want it was in part 1 to match kishi's work?

 

[KingHashirama]

@bold issue #9 actions comics 2012 a filler issue.

@underline lol what? its the same storyline i watch anime and read the manga its the same storyline there is a few errors from time to time but its the same thing. when do you think the rinnegan was changed from want it was in part 1 to match kishi's work?

Sorry, its not the same storyline. Even within the so called "canon" storyline there are things that didn't happen in the manga. What they say isn't the same as what happened in the manga.



Part 1 had the rinnegan? what? lol. And it was changed cause they are basing their thing off of that. HOWEVER, notice that anime is going into Kakashi's time as an anbu. By your logic that is a filler, by my logic that is part of the anime storyline.


As for the action comic #9 no it was not a "filler" it was a story explanation of the Superman of Earth-23 that is a whole different storyline in itself.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Sorry, its not the same storyline. Even within the so called "canon" storyline there are things that didn't happen in the manga. What they say isn't the same as what happened in the manga.



Part 1 had the rinnegan? what? lol. And it was changed cause they are basing their thing off of that. HOWEVER, notice that anime is going into Kakashi's time as an anbu. By your logic that is a filler, by my logic that is part of the anime storyline.


As for the action comic #9 no it was not a "filler" it was a story explanation of the Superman of Earth-23 that is a whole different storyline in itself.

action comic #9 is a filler morrison concluded his the collector arc the earth 23 superman was supposed to establish a villain for a future event but that was scrapped i.e filler. same as how batman : year two was originally canon but crisis in time erased that so the story was no longer canon to any universe again filler story.

part 1 rinnegan changed to match that of the manga when kishi release the official illustration of the rinnegan the anime is heavily based upon the manga.

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[Xlad]

faeyon had destroyed your notion of Anime=Canon.

 

[KingHashirama]

action comic #9 is a filler morrison concluded his the collector arc the earth 23 superman was supposed to establish a villain for a future event but that was scrapped i.e filler. same as how batman : year two was originally canon but crisis in time erased that so the story was no longer canon to any universe again filler story.

part 1 rinnegan changed to match that of the manga when kishi release the official illustration of the rinnegan the anime is heavily based upon the manga.

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Again, you aren't understanding the concept of comic storylines. There is no CANON in comics.. There are simply different universes. Hence why there are billions of supermans. So the stories can just keep going. Hence why i specifically stated people are starting put this "canon" / "non-canon" crap into comics now to when it never existed before. And I just proved its not a filler, claiming its a filler just because you claim so does not make it a filler mate.


I actually never saw that in the anime. Which episode might this be from?

faeyon had destroyed your notion of Anime=Canon.

Can't destroy something never existed kiddo.

 

[-Spoiler-]

Again, you aren't understanding the concept of comic storylines. There is no CANON in comics.. There are simply different universes. Hence why there are billions of supermans. So the stories can just keep going. Hence why i specifically stated people are starting put this "canon" / "non-canon" crap into comics now to when it never existed before. And I just proved its not a filler, claiming its a filler just because you claim so does not make it a filler mate.


I actually never saw that in the anime. Which episode might this be from?






Can't destroy something never existed kiddo.

its you that don't understand that's the point of certain events to erase, combine or retcon stories and origins that no longer serve any purpose or contradict a previously established continuity until there is something to back up earth 23 issue 9 is a filler that only purpose was to fill a gap between collectors arc and hunting superman. btw there are 51 supermen not billions -_- all of them appeared in final crisis and again nearly all of them where erased during flashpoint/new 52 reboot.

its the episode after naruto and sasuke fought.

EDIT: also people didn't recently start adding canon to comics DC started to established a Canon Continuity in 1975 when Crisis on infinite earths was launched it erased that crappy idea about endless earths so different stories can exist.

 

[KingHashirama]

A story cannot exist outside of a universe that no longer exist its you that don't understand that's the point of certain events to erase, combine or retcon stories and origins that no longer serve any purpose or contradict a previously established continuity until there is something to back up earth 23 issue 9 is a filler that only purpose was to fill a gap between collectors arc and hunting superman. btw there are 51 supermen not billions -_- all of them appeared in final crisis and again nearly all of them where erased during flashpoint/new 52 reboot.
its the episode after naruto and sasuke fought.

non exist = destroyed.

Left off doesn't = destroyed.

Don't know why you believe there are "canon" comic books.. on top of this you are trying to convince a guy who has been reading them for 10 years now, and has been going to comic-cons and other events.. i'm pretty sure if there was such a thing called "canon" comic i would know about it now.

"Filling" the gap = part of the story. They left the gap there so they can introduced they earth-23 superman.. Its like saying the shinju is a filler, its simply supposed to connect the juubi to the time before rikudou.. hence its a filler.. rofl.

@billions is an exaggeration.... lord. And so far, you have only been proving my point that no sole story is canon, but simply alternate universes.....

The original superman would be the straight up canon then. Not the New 52. The new 52 would basically be Rock Lee Giaden. lol....

 

[-Spoiler-]

non exist = destroyed.

Left off doesn't = destroyed.

Don't know why you believe there are "canon" comic books.. on top of this you are trying to convince a guy who has been reading them for 10 years now, and has been going to comic-cons and other events.. i'm pretty sure if there was such a thing called "canon" comic i would know about it now.

"Filling" the gap = part of the story. They left the gap there so they can introduced they earth-23 superman.. Its like saying the shinju is a filler, its simply supposed to connect the juubi to the time before rikudou.. hence its a filler.. rofl.

@billions is an exaggeration.... lord. And so far, you have only been proving my point that no sole story is canon, but simply alternate universes.....

The original superman would be the straight up canon then. Not the New 52. The new 52 would basically be Rock Lee Giaden. lol....

Bold poor analogy original superman was rebooted rock lee gaiden isnt a reboot now is it?

you're being reading comics for 10 years yet you haven't notice alternate universe in DC barely existed in those ten years only in two events alternate universe appeared, and that was infinite crisis and final crisis, there was one earth and that was new earth so where was those alternate supermen? they didn't exist. even in final crisis one issue are they all appeared they were all erased again because they were a paradoxes that wasn't supposed to existed in the first place.

 

[KingHashirama]

Bold poor analogy original superman was rebooted rock lee gaiden isnt a reboot now is it?

you're being reading comics for 10 years yet you haven't notice alternate universe in DC barely existed in those ten years only in two events alternate universe appeared, and that was infinite crisis and final crisis, there was one earth and that was new earth so where was those alternate supermen? they didn't exist. even in final crisis one issue are they all appeared they were all erased again because they were a paradoxes that wasn't supposed to existed in the first place.

What is rebooting? Starting another story based off the original.

You aren't understanding that. You keep telling me they started over so the old doesn't matter. BUT THE THING IS IT DOES MATTER! The original superman, the one created by the CREATORS of superman is still that specific superman.

And notice that i'm talking about cartoons + Comics, while you are focusing solely on comics.

And no it is not a bad analogy, it is the same analogy. Only difference is that rock lee giaden is happening while kishimoto's Naruto. However, that is a reboot of the characters. NOT THE SERIES. You cannot reboot a series, you can only reboot a character.


Are you putting this up, so you can continue to claim what is canon and what is not, and not accept the fact that they are 2 different things created by 2 different people, however are the same product?

 

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What is rebooting? Starting another story based off the original.

You aren't understanding that. You keep telling me they started over so the old doesn't matter. BUT THE THING IS IT DOES MATTER! The original superman, the one created by the CREATORS of superman is still that specific superman.

And notice that i'm talking about cartoons + Comics, while you are focusing solely on comics.

And no it is not a bad analogy, it is the same analogy. Only difference is that rock lee giaden is happening while kishimoto's Naruto. However, that is a reboot of the characters. NOT THE SERIES. You cannot reboot a series, you can only reboot a character.


Are you putting this up, so you can continue to claim what is canon and what is not, and not accept the fact that they are 2 different things created by 2 different people, however are the same product?

Honestly if you think the original superman can easiest be compare to the current superman you're deluded and basically never read a pre crisis superman book in you life. read batman/superman 1-6 the new 52 version. and you'll see the difference between the original superman and current superman.
First of all the stories aren't even the same because unlike the original this superman doesn't have ma and pa as his moral guides they died, him and lois never got together
New 52 Reboot DC entire Comic book Line combining DC main line , Wildstorm imprint and Vertigo imprint.
Comics and Cartoon isn't the same as Naruto anime and manga.

Cartoons follow their own rules an writer develop stories on their own without need to use the comic source material while naruto anime uses the stories that kishimoto provides.

Their is a entire website that is sole purpose is to map out the canonical order of the new 52 books.

You really should post a thread about there's no canon in comic books on the comic book resource forum and see how hard you get laugh at.