Selfless people

[Howard]

Flawed? There wasnt any flaw, there was twisting

Like the flog them thing, thats what got me mad

So thats the terrible thing? Lmao i thought killing and massacres were the most horrible thing, but it turns out asking for two women is the most terrible thing in the world :lol

Oh and you did twist dear boy,

There's no flaws in the verse saying you own your wife, and can do what you want with her? There's no flaws in thinking a women's word is worth less than a mans? I could bring up the verses about owning slaves and how it's okay to have *** with your captives but at this point you're not even replying to my points you're just trying to invalidate them ad hominem by calling me "Dumass" and "dear boy."

Did you not see my point about the ****ing Crusades? Do you know what happened during those times? Killing, and massacres, along with rape, torture, and various other atrocities that was possible because "all was forgiven." if you fought for your lord. I've mentioned it like four times now and you've not so much as acknowledged it. Would you like to know what caused those? Religion.

My god, you're condescending as hell. It's palpable at this point.

The only thing I'm getting from your posts is you believe religious people (because you are one) are superior in every way to that of a non-religious person and I'm not even sure if you're a troll at this point or you genuinely believe it.

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

There's no flaws in the verse saying you own your wife, and can do what you want with her? There's no flaws in thinking a women's word is worth less than a mans? I could bring up the verses about owning slaves and how it's okay to have *** with your captives but at this point you're not even replying to my points you're just trying to invalidate them ad hominem by calling me "Dumass" and "dear boy."

Did you not see my point about the ****ing Crusades? Do you know what happened during those times? Killing, and massacres, along with rape, torture, and various other atrocities that was possible because "all was forgiven." if you fought for your lord. I've mentioned it like four times now and you've not so much as acknowledged it. Would you like to know what caused those? Religion.

My god, you're condescending as hell. It's palpable at this point.

The only thing I'm getting from your posts is you believe religious people (because you are one) are superior in every way to that of a non-religious person and I'm not even sure if you're a troll at this point or you genuinely believe it.

You can do what you like in ***, not hitting her or something, or controling her or toying with her

Sigh i feel like this is getting nowhere, i wont be able to convince you

Suprior in morality? Sure, can non religious be moral? Sure. I never said no. I only said that religion is the one that really convince people to take the selfless path .

 

[Howard]

You can do what you like in ***, not hitting her or something, or controling her or toying with her

Sigh i feel like this is getting nowhere, i wont be able to convince you

Suprior in morality? Sure, can non religious be moral? Sure. I never said no. I only said that religion is the one that really convince people to take the selfless path .

How is a religious person superior in morality then? Explain it, because you haven't. When you do, keep in mind all of the morally unjust things religious people have done. I'm not claiming non-religious people are any better just that there's no foundation in what you're saying.

Anyway finally, you agree that religion isn't needed to have morality. Geez, took forever.

Btw, you did originally say without religion people couldn't have morality.

Most (if not all) selfless people are religious

if religion is gone the bye-bye morals :lol .

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

How is a religious person superior in morality then? Explain it, because you haven't. When you do, keep in mind all of the morally unjust things religious people have done. I'm not claiming non-religious people are any better just that there's no foundation in what you're saying.

Anyway finally, you agree that religion isn't needed to have morality. Geez, took forever.

Btw, you did originally say without religion people couldn't have morality.

I think its all a big misunderstanding :lol

Okay let me explain my point properly:

1: A religious person can be superior only if he follows the right way that, like being selfless and kind, always putting people first, sure a atheists can be that but a religion is always the one that pushes people to be selfless

2: i didnt say that, and i cant explain it without appearing as bias :lol so i'll avoid that

 

[Howard]

I think its all a big misunderstanding :lol

Okay let me explain my point properly:

1: A religious person can be superior only if he follows the right way that, like being selfless and kind, always putting people first, sure a atheists can be that but a religion is always the one that pushes people to be selfless

2: i didnt say that, and i cant explain it without appearing as bias :lol so i'll avoid that

What you're saying right now is anyone can be selfless which is the point I've been making the entire time and you've been disagreeing with. People make their own morals, and yes as I said religion is a way to find your own morals but any story can do the same thing without forcing a person to adhere to religious philosophy. Aesop's Fables as an example.

You did though in more then one place if I remember correctly.

But thats the truth as humans are just born plain evil and need some form of guidence and reward to help them realize right from wrong

An example of you saying it again.

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

What you're saying right now is anyone can be selfless which is the point I've been making the entire time and you've been disagreeing with. People make their own morals, and yes as I said religion is a way to find your own morals but any story can do the same thing without forcing a person to adhere to religious philosophy. Aesop's Fables as an example.

You did though in more then one place if I remember correctly.



An example of you saying it again.

Like i said i cant explain it without appearing as bias :lol

 

[V h o]

Can't we all just get along? Plox ._.

 

[Pyro NB]

morals aren't based on religion

 

[Umari Senju]

Its sad that you dont see it, if there is no religion then suicide rates would have been much much more higher, Some people despite their lives being complete shit, they still hold on because they believe that they'll get something better in the after life,

Also get constructed? Dont make me laugh most people only care about themseleves until religion comes in the picture and really makes then achive selflessness

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You realize this entire thread directly contridicts your very point and is in fact amoral. You claim almost all selfless people are religious but you are mistaken. There are a very large number of people who are so because they simply believe it is the humane thing to do and not because any particular religion demands it of them.

 

[Rogue Pit]

The stereotypes, the assumptions.
Clearly present.


Facts, historical proof, links, intellectual discussion void of emotions.
These are things this thread and other similar to it require.


FACTS:
-Bible was physically written by Humans.
-Bible is a book to help learn and overcome man's mental mistakes. Utopia.
-Religion has be used to divide
-People Desire and Urn for the concept of higher being and afterlike.
-WE CAN'T directly VIEW THE PAST

With these simple points that can not be disproven, the only conclusion I can come to with a FUNCTIONING BRAIN is that we have insufficient data to conclusion whether God is false or True.

Agnostics' are like atheist, except they believe there could be a god.
Overall Live your life with compassion and without greed. I think we can all agree that message will make the world a better place.
Selflessness I BELIEVE, lies within.. the religious side that seems to resonate with these selfless people, I BELIEVE is a mirror of the message the bible attempts to teach us.. THAT THEY ALREADY, IN THEIR HEARTS, UNDERSTAND. LOVE THY NEIGHBOR.

Stop spreading hates guys. We can debate without calling others dumb. Be conscious.

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Here's some nice readings.

 

[Waindo]

Religious people are the most peaceful people on the planet!



So you are busting bubbles now while talking about peace?

So basically you're saying you're peaceful, kind, open minded cuz you're religious? Just scroll trough your posts on relevant threads on here and soak in what kind of bullsh*it you wrote around kid. Shame on you.