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so juugo,senjutsu, ms jutsu, ems result of training?
i disagree. naruto learn jutsu fast too.
Sasuke's training
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Firstly, people need to stop bringing up Jugo. Jugo's senjutsu wasn't a powerup, it was a temporary measure to fight Obito.
Secondly, Naruto fighting Sasuke to get MS, is no different from Naruto fighting Kurama to get KCM.
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Im not saying he doesn't learn jutsu fast they both learn fast but they just have different styles. Sasuke will see something and have it down in few attempts while Naruto's strategy is to use as many clones as he can efficiently to get as many attempts in until it all clicks in his head. (Naruto is quantity Sasuke is quality so to speak)
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Sasuke trains alot and it really annoys me when people bash him for having MS/EMS when he had to go through psychological and emotional hell just to get them.
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because after he left the village the manga did focus on his training it focused on narutos
People are mad, because of the free powerups he occasionally recieves. Curse mark, EMS, senju DNA and will probably recieve Rinnegan now. The problem is that it was GIVEN to him.
Take a example of Madara who truly deserves to be where he is now.
Fought day n night to retrieve Dna from Hashirama in a deathmatch. He inplanted the eyes from his brother no other than himself.
Awakening the Rinnegan by fullfilling all the requirements, again all praise goes to Madara.
He gained SM after fodderizing Hashirama, after that he became the jin after fodderizing all bijuu.
Do you see the difference between taking something and being given?
Take a example of Madara who truly deserves to be where he is now.
Fought day n night to retrieve Dna from Hashirama in a deathmatch. He inplanted the eyes from his brother no other than himself.
Awakening the Rinnegan by fullfilling all the requirements, again all praise goes to Madara.
He gained SM after fodderizing Hashirama, after that he became the jin after fodderizing all bijuu.
Do you see the difference between taking something and being given?
It would be dumb to say Sasuke doesn't train, it showed him train more in part one of course but what I think some people don't like is when Sasuke just automatically go free power boost without training or that he had help to increase the overall skills of his training. Example, when Sasuke took the pill to unlock his CM lvl 2, it increased his based stats but a lot as we see the difference from Sasuke on the rooftop fight and Sasuke in VoTE with no training in between those event
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.Another one is after Naruto group first met Sasuke in Shiipuden, Sakura mentioned how her and Tsunade believe Sasuke used drugs or forbidden jutsu to increase his growth faster
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. And since we since Sasuke use one of Orochimaru to get stronger, it doesn't seem unlikely that he did it again.Kishi pretty much made it even when he gave Naruto a way to increase his growth speed, well actually Naruto's way is actually better since Naruto can gain years worth of training in a month if he trained. Naruto's clones allow him to gain more experience depending on how many he makes, he was using 200 clones when he was training to learn wind rasengan which would add up to 200 days worth of training in 1 day. Naruto goes on to use clones while he trained to learn SM as well to increase his speed at learning it. I only brought Naruto up to say they both had ways to increase their growth.
What I think most don't agree with is how easy Sasuke got his MS and EMS, he didn't train to get them and it was Itachi's manipulation of Sasuke which drove him down that path to begin with to make him stronger. Sasuke didn't train to use his MS jutsus, he jutsu got what he needed while in battle, I would have liked to see him train to use it, I mean Itachi had his MS from 13 to when he died around 22 while Sasuke went blind in like less than a week. I blame Kishi on that though, he didn't even have Sasuke train with his EMS which he should have so we could have seen more of it. Naruto trained with his KM but even that was incomplete as he joined the war and had no training for BM/BSM so couldn't use them to their fullest capabilities. Kishi should of had both of them train and show us their powers instead of making them pull something big out of nowhere and just be able to use some big attack they have no idea of using.
People forget one very important factor - Sasuke is a child prodigy, as called so through-out his life. He doesn't need to train as hard as the next person. A great example would be when Kakashi was teaching FRS to Naruto and he kept stating that how 'talented' Sasuke was in combining Nature and Spatial formation of the Chakra to create Chidori which he did so in a month. In order to accomplish nearly half the feat - as Rasangan is a Spatial formation of Chakra and nothing more - Naruto had to create as many Bushins as there were leaves on the trees to gain their experience and add His Natural Element to the Spatial Formation.
That is the difference between their talents, right there. As even at the end of the Training he still couldn't perfect it according to Yamato. Why do people keep forgetting this very important factor?
That is the difference between their talents, right there. As even at the end of the Training he still couldn't perfect it according to Yamato. Why do people keep forgetting this very important factor?
