Sasuke's teleportation "prep time"

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WHAT.THE.**** ? So, if Manga never states that Kaguya has a weakness, will you just go into the conclusion that she "must" have a weakness because she seems invincible, even when the manga has never stated so ? Kishi writes the manga, not you, so until the manga explicitly states such, you're just speculating and making theories without the support from the manga. I didn't make a theory on why he closed his eyes, I said that the manga hasn't stated why he closed his eyes, so the only one speculating here is you.
You do relize the manga isnt just words right? There are pictures that also illustrate what is going on. Saying that anything the manga doesnt directly state with text is fanfic is ridiculous. It showed sasuke with his eye closed after he used his teleport repeatedly, unless you can bring up instances of someone with a dojutsu closing it while in combat for no reason, then the obvious reason he closed it is because of the repeated teleports.

Im not saying sasuke couldnt of kept on teleporting either, just that if he did it would of started to drain his personal chakra.
 
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WHAT.THE.**** ? So, if Manga never states that Kaguya has a weakness, will you just go into the conclusion that she "must" have a weakness because she seems invincible, even when the manga has never stated so ? Kishi writes the manga, not you, so until the manga explicitly states such, you're just speculating and making theories without the support from the manga. I didn't make a theory on why he closed his eyes, I said that the manga hasn't stated why he closed his eyes, so the only one speculating here is you.
i do have the supprot of the manga. i put events together to form a conclusion but because you dont agree with it you'll just say the manga never said that.

yes kaguya obviously has a weakness and one of them is that she doesnt know every jutsu and isnt update on modern ones as shown by when she was surprised by naruto's jutsu. did the manga state this? no. just because the manga didnt say this does that make what i said untrue? no.

lol and its funny that your still arguing over this point. YOU asked for proof. I never wanted to give proof but YOU asked for it. YOU have no proof or evidence that would go against what i said so again you just stamp it as fanfiction. this is a thread discussing what we believe to be the eye's weakness and you only came here to say the manga never said that? lol bring some proof i could argue that the manga did if you read between the lines. a manga is more then words and to my by looking at the pictures i found a weakness to his eye wheres your proof that the manga didnt say/show this because to me its clear
 
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You do relize the manga isnt just words right? There are pictures that also illustrate what is going on. Saying that anything the manga doesnt directly state with text is fanfic is ridiculous. It showed sasuke with his eye closed after he used his teleport repeatedly, unless you can bring up instances of someone with a dojutsu closing it while in combat for no reason.
exactly the author doesnt have to spoon feed you everything for you to figure something out
 

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Well didn't Naruto said it was like a teleportation jutsu? Never said it actually was did he? I do think it is but you said manga proved it was which the scan didn't really. Anyways, you can't assume Sasuke doesn't need a break with his eye just like they can't assume he does, we can only go with what the manga shows or tells us. I see people saying Sasuke's jutsu is faster than FTG when it was never even compared to it and all the fastest speed were such as A, KM/BM Naruto, Obito, Tobirama.

I do think Sasuke might have to rest his eye since he did have to close his eye, we seen this before in other Sharingans jutsus like Itachi's Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, Sasuke's Amaterasu, Kakashi's Kamui. It might not be the jutsu but more of the eye in general; if he over use jutsus with it then he might have to rest it. Obito's Kamui only last 5 mins so Sasuke could have a limit or might not but he did have to close his eye to rest it after using his s/t 3x. I think it's only if he uses it without enough time between each is what make him have to close it since he used it more against Madara and not as much with Kaguya.
bold 1. wtf? he doesnt need a break to use his jutsu because he has actually used it some number of times without needing any break whatsover. thats what the manga shows. if you state otherwise then you are the one who needs to show proof which there isnt so its fanfic simple

bold2. the moment you compared his jutsu with others like tsukuyomi or amaterasu thats when you failed. all doujutsus are not the same so not all will produce the same effect, sasukes jutsu is a teleporting jutsu so its different. dont apply other jutsus logic with his own. he used his jutsu about 4 times against madara and he showed to use it consecutively without to rest or recharge. when he closed his eye madara was not there, he was not in battle so why shouldnt he conserve chakra?? hes used a lot of techs after madara came back so he wasnt exausted in any way. his eye hasnt closed since madara came back and hes been using his jutsu. sasuke jutsu hasnt been shown its limits yet in the manga(apart from the range) so you cant place the limit yourself. its nothing but fanfic simple.
 
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You do relize the manga isnt just words right? There are pictures that also illustrate what is going on. Saying that anything the manga doesnt directly state with text is fanfic is ridiculous. It showed sasuke with his eye closed after he used his teleport repeatedly, unless you can bring up instances of someone with a dojutsu closing it while in combat for no reason, then the obvious reason he closed it is because of the repeated teleports.

Im not saying sasuke couldnt of kept on teleporting either, just that if he did it would of started to drain his personal chakra.
So, by your logic, you can just see a picture one way and jump to conclusions ? Nicely done. The pictures only allows us to measure DC, speed, durability, reactions, etc. The mechanics of the techniques cannot be explained by pictures with no words, saying that a technique has a drawback just because he closed his eye and not stating why, is just what we call "jumping to conclusions". What is ridiculous is jumping to conclusions by just seeing a picture from the manga, the manga didn't even imply the reason why he closed his eye, let alone directly state, you're just taking your (bad) interpretation from manga panels as fact. 1. He closed it willingly, it didn't close by itself. 2. It wasn't after he used teleportation repeatedly, it was after Madara left. 3. Madara wasn't there, so he wasn't in combat. Again, you're jumping to conclusions.

And again, chakra was never stated to be the reason he closed his eyes.

i do have the supprot of the manga. i put events together to form a conclusion but because you dont agree with it you'll just say the manga never said that.

yes kaguya obviously has a weakness and one of them is that she doesnt know every jutsu and isnt update on modern ones as shown by when she was surprised by naruto's jutsu. did the manga state this? no. just because the manga didnt say this does that make what i said untrue? no.

lol and its funny that your still arguing over this point. YOU asked for proof. I never wanted to give proof but YOU asked for it. YOU have no proof or evidence that would go against what i said so again you just stamp it as fanfiction. this is a thread discussing what we believe to be the eye's weakness and you only came here to say the manga never said that? lol bring some proof i could argue that the manga did if you read between the lines. a manga is more then words and to my by looking at the pictures i found a weakness to his eye wheres your proof that the manga didnt say/show this because to me its clear
Yes, because your conclusion from seeing a couple of manga panels doesn't mean shit if the manga hasn't proven you right. the fact is, manga NEVER stated the reason he closed his eye, I could say he closed it for the Lol's and who would be right ? Me or you ? Let me answer for you, NEITHER, because the MANGA (which is btw > your opinion) hasn't confirmed either to be right, they are both bad interpretations of manga panels, the manga needs to state for it to happen, saying ANYTHING without the confirmation from the manga itself is fanfiction.

WTF ? Naruto explicitly stated that she never saw that jutsu, in fact it was in the title of the chapter. Anyways, it was just an example.

:vincent: what proof ? You didn't give any proof, your "proof" is "Sasuke closed his eyes, so I think he closed it because his jutsu has a cooldown", I don't need to give any proof, I didn't make any ridiculous statements on why he closed his eyes, I only said that manga didn't state that he closed it because of the cooldown, you were the one who didn't provide any proof until now and instead takes your shitty interpretation of a scan as fact, the reason he closed his eyes was NEVER explained by the manga itself, nor was it IMPLIED that it was because of that specific jutsu, the only weakness the manga has confirmed till date is the limited range, no other weakness is confirmed, you're just jumping to conclusions.

@Bold : WHAT THE **** ? Do you even hear yourself ? you're basically saying "The manga has shown Sasuke closing his eye, so I THINK that it is because his jutsu has a cooldown, so what if the manga hasn't stated that my theory is right ? It hasn't been stated to be wrong either, prove that the manga didn't state it", That's the most stupid thing I have ever heard, if the manga never stated something, then how the hell am I supposed to prove it ? You're the one saying that it did, you're the one who needs to prove it, not me. It's clear to you because you made that BS up. Unless you come with solid proof that it has a cooldown, don't bother replying to me.
 
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bold 1. wtf? he doesnt need a break to use his jutsu because he has actually used it some number of times without needing any break whatsover. thats what the manga shows. if you state otherwise then you are the one who needs to show proof which there isnt so its fanfic simple

bold2. the moment you compared his jutsu with others like tsukuyomi or amaterasu thats when you failed. all doujutsus are not the same so not all will produce the same effect, sasukes jutsu is a teleporting jutsu so its different. dont apply other jutsus logic with his own. he used his jutsu about 4 times against madara and he showed to use it consecutively without to rest or recharge. when he closed his eye madara was not there, he was not in battle so why shouldnt he conserve chakra?? hes used a lot of techs after madara came back so he wasnt exausted in any way. his eye hasnt closed since madara came back and hes been using his jutsu. sasuke jutsu hasnt been shown its limits yet in the manga(apart from the range) so you cant place the limit yourself. its nothing but fanfic simple.
no one never said he only had one use, a cool down could mean he can only use it 2/3/4 times before stopping
 

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So, by your logic, you can just see a picture one way and jump to conclusions ? Nicely done. The pictures only allows us to measure DC, speed, durability, reactions, etc. The mechanics of the techniques cannot be explained by pictures with no words, saying that a technique has a drawback just because he closed his eye and not stating why, is just what we call "jumping to conclusions". What is ridiculous is jumping to conclusions by just seeing a picture from the manga, the manga didn't even imply the reason why he closed his eye, let alone directly state, you're just taking your (bad) interpretation from manga panels as fact. 1. He closed it willingly, it didn't close by itself. 2. It wasn't after he used teleportation repeatedly, it was after Madara left. 3. Madara wasn't there, so he wasn't in combat. Again, you're jumping to conclusions.

And again, chakra was never stated to be the reason he closed his eyes.
see there you go doing it again. for some reason you cant rap your head around what im telling you. your trying to argue that just because a book didnt state something is a metaphor it isnt. that right there is speculation.

come up with a logical reason for him to close his eye? cant right because the manga never stated a reason?

a manga is a picture story and a written story. if i see that sasuke did something but the manga didnt state it then to me the manga SHOWED it. you saying the manga didnt is your opinion. i could just as easily say your comment is fanfic

you cant intrepit a picture so you jump to a conclusion and thought nothing was wrong with sasuke, nicely done your doing the samething but i actually have some evidence to support my claims
 
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So, by your logic, you can just see a picture one way and jump to conclusions ? Nicely done. The pictures only allows us to measure DC, speed, durability, reactions, etc. The mechanics of the techniques cannot be explained by pictures with no words, saying that a technique has a drawback just because he closed his eye and not stating why, is just what we call "jumping to conclusions". What is ridiculous is jumping to conclusions by just seeing a picture from the manga, the manga didn't even imply the reason why he closed his eye, let alone directly state, you're just taking your (bad) interpretation from manga panels as fact. 1. He closed it willingly, it didn't close by itself. 2. It wasn't after he used teleportation repeatedly, it was after Madara left. 3. Madara wasn't there, so he wasn't in combat. Again, you're jumping to conclusions.

And again, chakra was never stated to be the reason he closed his eyes.
Im truly dumbfounded if you really think like this. I hope for your sake that its just because sasuke is your favorite and you dont want to admit his eyes faults, and not what you apply to the entire manga.
 

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did i say it had a cool down?. i said because he used it repeatedly doesnt disprove a cool down because a cool down can take effect after any number of uses
first part. good now we are getting somewhere. true but sasukes jutsu hasnt been stated to need a cooldown after x number of uses, simple.
 
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yes but like rustled jimmies said why that happened hasnt been stated. however lemme ask you this questions, why do you want sasukes jutsu to have cooldown/prep time so bad? or do you truly believe his jutsu requires those?
Why do i want him to have disadvantages on his eye so bad? Im only debating with people who are saying he doesnt when the manga made it clear he does. I could care less if sasuke could teleport 100 times in a row, but that obviously isnt the case.

People like you are to hung up on naruto vs sasuke so you always think people are trying to make him look bad.
 

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Im truly dumbfounded if you really think like this. I hope for your sake that its just because sasuke is your favorite and you dont want to admit his eyes faults, and not what you apply to the entire manga.
I'm truly dumbfounded if you actually think like this. Now we can all jump to conclusions without the manga's confirmation, right ? Lol
 
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yes but like rustled jimmies said why that happened hasnt been stated. however lemme ask you this questions, why do you want sasukes jutsu to have cooldown/prep time so bad? or do you truly believe his jutsu requires those?
It's actually very fair because naruto has his cooldown too just like sasky XD
 
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