Sasuke's Susanoo is not Perfect Susanoo???

[TrollKing]

Naruto only has half of Kurama and after Minato sealed it with RDS Kurama got smaller

I doubt its 50% smaller tho XD

 

[Behemoth55]

It doesn't' really matter if the fight continued because as far as we know he stopped using Perfect Susano'o.

Nope, Madara said, because of his Kanzentai Susanoo, which he used in chapter 589, the maps had to be repainted, after he fought Hashirama.

What are you talking about here? Do you expect him to say the name of his Susano'o every time?

Why not? Kishimoto himself differentiates between Susanoo and Kanzentai Susanoo.

 

[21 Savage]

Sasuke's susano'o is far from being perfect. Madara's PS is probably because of what hashirama did to help Madara's quest for power

 

[adeshina365]

Sasuke has the "Perfect" Susanoo, get over it.

 

[Avinash012]

Lmao,He has PS & It is clear as day .

 

[LeSauce]

Nope, Madara said, because of his Kanzentai Susanoo, which he used in chapter 589, the maps had to be repainted, after he fought Hashirama.



Why not? Kishimoto himself differentiates between Susanoo and Kanzentai Susanoo.

Did he not use the Susano'o? Did he not slice those mountains? He never used the humanoid form during that battle, he only wrapped PS around Kurama.

It was only called that when it was first introduced, there's no need to keep calling it complete or perfect Susano'o when the audience already knows.

 

[To Whatever]

Sasuke doesnt have PS.

I have yet to see his susanoo slice a mountain. Thats the only requirement for PS.

Ot: Sasuke has it but its not at Madara's level

 

[Mad Daz]

Lmao,He has PS & It is clear as day .

Obvious its not that clear. Seems the only people its clear to are known uchiha fanboys >.<

Interesting

 

[BlinkST]

Obvious its not that clear. Seems the only people its clear to are known uchiha fanboys >.<

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Or people who can read. Handy Susano'o chart for noobs

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[Mad Daz]

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So u only look at the nose and not the huge arms comming out of madaras susanoos back? Lol its twice as big as sasukes from those arms alone and they each have a ps sword. Those are actually the arms madara used to slice up the moutains in his vote fight. Huge difference in size and power.

 

[TrollKing]

So u only look at the nose and not the huge arms comming out of madaras susanoos back? Lol its twice as big as sasukes from those arms alone and they each have a ps sword. Those are actually the arms madara used to slice up the moutains in his vote fight. Huge difference in size and power.

Your comparison of power is quite wrong.
Madara+nine tails vs hashirama and 5 mountains(***loss***)
Sasuke+nine tails vs rikudara(***and won***)

I don't see madara ps stomp sasuke ps
And ying nine tails is not 50% smaller, you can see its as big as other 8 beasts

 

[BlinkST]

So u only look at the nose and not the huge arms comming out of madaras susanoos back?

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Apparently, they can control how many arms Susano'o has.

Lol its twice as big as sasukes from those arms alone

The size limitations of Sasuke's Susano'o at that point has more to do with the size of what it was covering: Naruto's Kyubi transformation [Which is many times smaller than the original Kyubi]. Then again, it's exactly the same size as the other Biju, so I'm not sure what's going on there. Keep in mind Susano'o does not have a inherent size.

 

[Mad Daz]

Your comparison of power is quite wrong.
Madara+nine tails vs hashirama and 5 mountains(***loss***)
Sasuke+nine tails vs rikudara(***and won***)

I don't see madara ps stomp sasuke ps
And ying nine tails is not 50% smaller, you can see its as big as other 8 beasts

I never said his bsm was 50% smaller its smaller because of the arms that madara actually used in combat with hashiramas strongest sm techs.

And the comparison is on sasukes susanoo version he used on the kyuubi alone. Without the sm chakra from bsm the omyoudon wouldnt have been scratched. So saying their equal because naruto/sasuke slashed obito once would be foolish.

 

[mohdzarif]

You don't need to call people that didn't agree with what you believe dumb or stupid. And I am not a Sasuke hater. Don't just throw accusations and easily labeled people dumb or stupid. You made me sad.

OKAY. Right now, after reading through arguments in replies especially from

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I am more towards believing that Sasuke indeed had PS but not on Madara's level. It is just that I am a confused about the terms and what characteristics of Susanoo that make it "perfect".

I agree that I am indeed "dumb" in a sense. As I am not like some of you especially the veterans who investigated really deeply and had participated a lot in forum discussions. And I didn't really go around in the forum before, so I have missed many debates and discussions. I am just starting to be a little more active in the forum just recently.

So, I repeat again, rather than denying it, I am now more inclined towards saying Sasuke got a PS, but not on Madara's level. Hope you are happy with it now.

 

[TrollKing]

You don't need to call people that didn't agree with what you believe dumb or stupid. And I am not a Sasuke hater. Don't just throw accusations and easily labeled people dumb or stupid. You made me sad.

We 9 out of 10 here are sasuke haters XD

I never said his bsm was 50% smaller its smaller because of the arms that madara actually used in combat with hashiramas strongest sm techs.

And the comparison is on sasukes susanoo version he used on the kyuubi alone. Without the sm chakra from bsm the omyoudon wouldnt have been scratched. So saying their equal because naruto/sasuke slashed obito once would be foolish.

Manga show sm power is way below biji, it boost additional abilities and the user base power. Manga also show the reason they need bsm than bm, has nothing to do with massively enhancing power than "senjutsu" the ability to hurt jubi jin. Sasuke balanced that out with jugo who we all know is garbage

So its pretty much nine tails unless you insist naruto sm multiply nine tails 2-4 times :eww:

 

[mohdzarif]

Your comparison of power is quite wrong.
Madara+nine tails vs hashirama and 5 mountains(***loss***)
Sasuke+nine tails vs rikudara(***and won***)

I don't see madara ps stomp sasuke ps
And ying nine tails is not 50% smaller, you can see its as big as other 8 beasts

Manga show sm power is way below biji, it boost additional abilities and the user base power. Manga also show the reason they need bsm than bm, has nothing to do with massively enhancing power than "senjutsu" the ability to hurt jubi jin. Sasuke balanced that out with jugo who we all know is garbage

So its pretty much nine tails unless you insist naruto sm multiply nine tails 2-4 times :eww:

Dude, it is ridiculous to say Sasuke's PS = Madara's PS. Remember, Sasuke just got his EMS like 2 days and is still a very young man. It is too much to say Sasuke's PS equals Madara's by looking at that only. And Madara was a legend anyway, you couldn't compare Sasuke to him. Remember, Sasuke is not even as genius as Itachi, let alone Madara.

You knew it right that Naruto and Sasuke won because of senjutsu. With senjutsu they were able to crack the shield and the sword. And sage mode multiply base Naruto's strength incredibly, so why BSM didn't work the same on BM?

But it is not really about multiplying power though, they simply need senjutsu. It is like the weakness of Juubi Jin. Remember, with only a Senjutsu Rasengan, Naruto was able to scratch Obito.

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[flyboyissac]

*pawnface* to who says sasuke awaken susanoo perfect first off madara opened the complete susanoo then went perfect sasuke has complete susanoo how are people ignoring facts

 

[TrollKing]

Dude, it is ridiculous to say Sasuke's PS = Madara's PS. Remember, Sasuke just got his EMS like 2 days and is still a very young man. It is too much to say Sasuke's PS equals Madara's by looking at that only. And Madara was a legend anyway, you couldn't compare Sasuke to him. Remember, Sasuke is not even as genius as Itachi, let alone Madara.

You knew it right that Naruto and Sasuke won because of senjutsu. With senjutsu they were able to crack the shield and the sword. And sage mode multiply base Naruto's strength incredibly, so why BSM didn't work the same on BM?

But it is not really about multiplying power though, they simply need senjutsu. It is like the weakness of Juubi Jin. Remember, with only a Senjutsu Rasengan, Naruto was able to scratch Obito.

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Manga shows two susanoo comparable in almost every way. Weaker probably since sasuke is green which is not the point. Kishi trying to show sasuke is more of a genius(even able to surpass itach, nagato and madara, they said it in all earlier chapters, so that's more geniuthan madara the legend and itachi)


Senjutsu can multiply base(so it seems when base is too weak). If they multiply biju, then they can create a couple more biju as well which makes close to no sense. And you seem to understand why kishi put senjutsu in bm and that's all kishi showed in last chapters. People use the exact same reason to say how little bit of chakara cloak from nine tail literal created the whole ps. That one makes only little sense too. If multiplying power exists, they can focus all power(power beyond 100 biju is understatement) and solo jubi or so6p which not what in manga, and kishi wouldn't make such mistake to contradict himself

There might be some kind of boost powerwise in bsm. But the point is nine tail power is too great to be touch. I'm sure oniko or Ay two Kage(and they not far weaker than sm naruto) can not offer any boost at all to nine tails cuz they are too weak compare to nine tails