Sasuke's Sharingan Surpasses Naruto's Kyuubi Mode.

[SasukeUchiha5]

And I mean unless Sasuke uses Susanoo, he's fodder, he's not winning any fights with kyuubi mode naruto without some MS assistance, which means that sharingan is not better than kyuubi mode

You can't out normal shringan against KM Naruto becuase that power is stronger than sharingan. Your just making it unfair. Sharingan Sasuke against regular naruto then that's a fair fight. MS or EMS Sasuke vs. KM Naruto then that's fair becuase those are two strong powers(EMS and MS being a bit stronger than KM). Sasuke is stringer than naruto and will be considered so until they fight. But naruto always wins in everyfight except against sasuke. But the last one naruto will win or sasuke or it will be a tie or both die.

 

[natssuu]

Nah, it's not really that i dislike Sasuke, but all the Fanboys and Sasuke lovers ruined the character for Me...
And about the overrating part... it was a general observation... when you see 3 threads a day with EMS Sasuke VS... or EMS Sasuke can do this, and do that, and own people, you get tired of it.

Sasuke fans aren't the only ones who makes stupid threads, there are also Minato, Sakura, Itachi, Nagato etc. fanboys. This is typical hater statement ''I don't like Sasuke because of his fanboys''. Fanboys haven't changed Sasuke himself, so you should know that your opinion > fanboys' opinion.

 

[LolaxXx]

First of all... With the Sharingan, depending on how much mastery the weilder has. Can be the most formidable weapon on any battle field as seen in many manga and episodes.
Yes im aware you all know this... Im just tryna prove a point.
As it stands now, i feel Sasuke is far stronger than naruto for a few reasons.
Naruto has never caught up with Sasuke, why?
When they met for the first time in close to 3 years. Sasuke owned Naruto, Sai, Yamato, Sakura [She didnt really do anything] then proceeded to kill them. Another point... He had mater his Sharingan at that stage to a degree which allowed him direct contact with the Nine Tails. Who himself displayed fear in sight of Sasuke's Sharingan.

Secondly, someone trained to resist genjustu cast by the Sharingan like Deidara had a hard time in his fight with Sasuke... And the majority of the battle was genjutsu. He fell to Sasuke's eyes.

Thirdly, When faced off with Itachi... Sasuke broke free one of the most powerful genjutsus if not the most powerful Tsukiyomi with an ordinary Sharingan.
There are speculations that he only beat it because of the blood relation between them both. I SAY Sasuke surpassed Itachi at that point where occular power came into consideration... Note: Itachi was close to blindness.
Sasuke then awoken his Mangekyo Sharingan, taking his abilities to a whole new level where we could hold his own against the Kages for a short time. The was still confident enough in his abilities to fight the likes of Danzo.
During their fight... Sasuke demonstrated great mastery in genjutsu when he executed Tsukiyomi, no matter how short... he pulled it off and was able to trick Danzo.
His fight with Bee was quite impressive but anyone with common sense knew Sasuke and his team would have been killed if Bee had any intention of fighting seriously.

Last but not least... Take a look at all of Sasuke's accomplishments since he left the tutalege of Orochimaru. He has grown to a point of being acknowledged Kage level if not higher [S-rank maybe?]
And now he has gained the EMS. And from what was shown in the last manga release... Naruto is still nowhere near the level of Sasuke's skills and or intelligence. He has raw power... Sure. But we're yet to have seen Sasuke's new power, so its safe to say that Sasuke has risen to a level equal to that of Madara if he had not surpassed him by now.
You're thinking no he hasnt because Madara has the Rinnegan... Its not about the power you weild, but how you weild it.
He was regarded as a genius from the start.
I am not a Sasuke fanboy... But from the way the last manga release played out. Im having doubts about Naruto and his "new found power"

your comment about being smart, Naruto was never considered smart for a ninja and he's gotten this far, so that is invalid.

Secondly. No.

 

[-Hades-]

Sasuke fans aren't the only ones who makes stupid threads, there are also Minato, Sakura, Itachi, Nagato etc. fanboys. This is typical hater statement ''I don't like Sasuke because of his fanboys''. Fanboys haven't changed Sasuke himself, so you should know that your opinion > fanboys' opinion.

Well i still like Sasuke as a character, i mean in the Manga i can't wait to see what powers he has, and stuff like that... I just hate discussing him... i think it's because of everything i read about him lately...
Thank god Uchiha Macho and some others didn't pop out around this thread...

 

[Naruto FanBASE]

First of all... With the Sharingan, depending on how much mastery the weilder has. Can be the most formidable weapon on any battle field as seen in many manga and episodes.
Yes im aware you all know this... Im just tryna prove a point.
As it stands now, i feel Sasuke is far stronger than naruto for a few reasons.
Naruto has never caught up with Sasuke, why?
When they met for the first time in close to 3 years. Sasuke owned Naruto, Sai, Yamato, Sakura [She didnt really do anything] then proceeded to kill them. Another point... He had mater his Sharingan at that stage to a degree which allowed him direct contact with the Nine Tails. Who himself displayed fear in sight of Sasuke's Sharingan.

Secondly, someone trained to resist genjustu cast by the Sharingan like Deidara had a hard time in his fight with Sasuke... And the majority of the battle was genjutsu. He fell to Sasuke's eyes.

Thirdly, When faced off with Itachi... Sasuke broke free one of the most powerful genjutsus if not the most powerful Tsukiyomi with an ordinary Sharingan.
There are speculations that he only beat it because of the blood relation between them both. I SAY Sasuke surpassed Itachi at that point where occular power came into consideration... Note: Itachi was close to blindness.
Sasuke then awoken his Mangekyo Sharingan, taking his abilities to a whole new level where we could hold his own against the Kages for a short time. The was still confident enough in his abilities to fight the likes of Danzo.
During their fight... Sasuke demonstrated great mastery in genjutsu when he executed Tsukiyomi, no matter how short... he pulled it off and was able to trick Danzo.
His fight with Bee was quite impressive but anyone with common sense knew Sasuke and his team would have been killed if Bee had any intention of fighting seriously.

Last but not least... Take a look at all of Sasuke's accomplishments since he left the tutalege of Orochimaru. He has grown to a point of being acknowledged Kage level if not higher [S-rank maybe?]
And now he has gained the EMS. And from what was shown in the last manga release... Naruto is still nowhere near the level of Sasuke's skills and or intelligence. He has raw power... Sure. But we're yet to have seen Sasuke's new power, so its safe to say that Sasuke has risen to a level equal to that of Madara if he had not surpassed him by now.
You're thinking no he hasnt because Madara has the Rinnegan... Its not about the power you weild, but how you weild it.
He was regarded as a genius from the start.
I am not a Sasuke fanboy... But from the way the last manga release played out. Im having doubts about Naruto and his "new found power"

naruto didnt even do anything but stand there so how he be owned when he when frozen with emotion

 

[BlackDude]

lol well i think it mighty funny how people say sasuke
had everything handed to him because naruto did also


i think sasuke is stronger but kishi doesnt want to show his power yet

 

[Raiten Uchiha]

No problem, and in your defense you did say maybe. It just irks me when people still can't get their ranks right this far into the manga. Especially those who still think that the title of "Sannin" is a rank.

Lmao i hear you.
Smh

 

[Raiten Uchiha]

Just to say. Tobi told Sasuke that Naruto was stronger than Sasuke after the defeat of Pain. Example 1 of Naruto getting better than Sasuke. Sasuke has had most of his skill given to him. Sharingan makes things easy. orochimaru gave sasuke increased agility and other stuff and taught him new jutsu and gave him opponents. Itachi gave Sasuke that win against him and also the Amaterasu was sealed within Sasuke by Itachi,Sasuke didn't learn it. Sasuke didn't use Tsukiyomi on danzo, he just used genjutsu. Danzo simply said it was a far cry from Itachi's Tsukiyomi. And now, Sasuke has been GIVEN Itachi's eyes. I don't dislike Sasuke, in fact, I like him. but I know he gets shit handed to him and Naruto has had to work for everything, whilst dealing with having the 9-tails torment.

I understand. And i respect your contribution but it doesnt change the fact that Sasuke has gotten stronger. Regardless of how his abilities were handed to him on a silver platter.
He holds his own against some of the most powerful infamous nd famous shinobi.
Its like saying Naruto woke up one morning and knew how to use SM nd KM... no sir.
He was taught, and given attributes just like everyone else. Im not saying he's not a hard worker.
But Sasuke had to work his *** off in order to gain the power he so hungered for. Yes Itachi gave Sasuke that win. But admit it... That was a hell of a fight that i doubt even Orochimaru in his prime could have pulled off.
Fact of the matter is, Sasuke has grown, so have Naruto.. But it was always stated that Sasuke was much more skilled nd regarded as a genius where as Naruto was not.

 

[RAMKAD]

Well why not wait. to me you are just a fanboy surfering from f.b.d.d

 

[Raiten Uchiha]

Nah, it's not really that i dislike Sasuke, but all the Fanboys and Sasuke lovers ruined the character for Me...
And about the overrating part... it was a general observation... when you see 3 threads a day with EMS Sasuke VS... or EMS Sasuke can do this, and do that, and own people, you get tired of it.

If you get tired of it.
All i can say is to ignore my threads... They wont always be about Sasuke nd his eyes. I was trying to find clarification where his abilities are concerned because as you all can see, i miss something that one of you might not have missed. Always trying to lable ppl as "Fanboys" makes you a judgemental person and i dnt appreciate that.. I dnt favor any one Naruto character. Just so you know.

 

[Raiten Uchiha]

naruto didnt even do anything but stand there so how he be owned when he when frozen with emotion

Orochimaru had to stop Sasuke.
That shows something.
Sasuke owned Yamato and Sai in a min.
Naruto would have been no different.

 

[Raiten Uchiha]

lol well i think it mighty funny how people say sasuke
had everything handed to him because naruto did also


i think sasuke is stronger but kishi doesnt want to show his power yet

Ty.
Sasuke was trained.
And so was Naruto... They say Sasuke was given his powers.
I know damn well Sasuke didnt just sit back and watch **** happen.
NO, he went and got what he wanted thru by whatever means.
And honestly if anyone was given his powers. It would have been Naruto because Sasuke went thru hell to get where he is now.

 

[BlackDude]

Orochimaru had to stop Sasuke.
That shows something.
Sasuke owned Yamato and Sai in a min.
Naruto would have been no different.

i think sasuke was going to use kirin on Yamato, Sai, Naruto and Sakura but Orochimaru stop him XD

Ty.
Sasuke was trained.
And so was Naruto... They say Sasuke was given his powers.
I know damn well Sasuke didnt just sit back and watch **** happen.
NO, he went and got what he wanted thru by whatever means.
And honestly if anyone was given his powers. It would have been Naruto because Sasuke went thru hell to get where he is now.

agreed

 

[Ibrahimsanni]

You know when you need clearifications you should actuall state in the tread so people can know,i am not trying to criticize you or flame you and don't write thread in which you need clearifications for in certainty bcause people will always be ready to give you what you deserve. So to the topic sasuke's three tomoe matched naruto's kyuubi version 1 chakra shroud any tails more would cook sasuke has we saw naruto outmatched sasuke until he used his cursed seal im really not sure,to the ms now can you compare the ms with the rinnegan (No) pein had problems predicting the kyuubi attacks in its six tailed form so i dout the ms can,it may stand a chance with may be the four tails.Now the EMS is a little weaker than the rinnegan but it should be able to stand against the six tails vissually anything more will end sasuke once it goes eight tails the rinnegan is the only doujutsu to handle it.I know you might say that tobi/madara controlled the kyuubi with a genjutsu but thats without a jinchuriki and madara war to go all out with the kyuubi the way pein i doubt he would go that far the way pein did so i am through if am mistakend am all ears pls correct me.

 

[Retsu]

Ty.
Sasuke was trained.
And so was Naruto... They say Sasuke was given his powers.
I know damn well Sasuke didnt just sit back and watch **** happen.
NO, he went and got what he wanted thru by whatever means.
And honestly if anyone was given his powers. It would have been Naruto because Sasuke went thru hell to get where he is now.

Nah, if anybody actually did something it was naruto, after the time skip Sasuke was portrayed as so powerful he pretty much made team 7 his B!atch, Naruto has almost quadrupled his power in full view of everyone whilst Sasuke was suddenly so strong Sakura thought it had to be with the help of drugs.

Naruto created Rasenshuriken whilst after the time skip Sasuke had Kirin just fall in his lap, Sasuke was a genius with orochimaru doping him up every step of the way, yeah he didn't just watch crap happen, but naruto worked way harder to get where he was, and tbh Sasuke was handed the biggest upgrade, when he fought Itachi, and then he got another huge upgrade handed to him with Itachi's eyes.

It's clear to see who's had the most help.

 

[-Hades-]

Ty.
Sasuke was trained.
And so was Naruto... They say Sasuke was given his powers.
I know damn well Sasuke didnt just sit back and watch **** happen.
NO, he went and got what he wanted thru by whatever means.
And honestly if anyone was given his powers. It would have been Naruto because Sasuke went thru hell to get where he is now.

Please don't go there... PLEASE!... there are already 100 threads about this... and if you start discussing who was given power and who earned it it will ruin your thread... seriously.

And just so you know, i didn't label you as a fanboy... i was talking in general (because lately there are quite a few sasuke fanboys...)

 

[xxSAGExx]

First of all... With the Sharingan, depending on how much mastery the weilder has. Can be the most formidable weapon on any battle field as seen in many manga and episodes.
Yes im aware you all know this... Im just tryna prove a point.
As it stands now, i feel Sasuke is far stronger than naruto for a few reasons.
Naruto has never caught up with Sasuke, why?
When they met for the first time in close to 3 years. Sasuke owned Naruto, Sai, Yamato, Sakura [She didnt really do anything] then proceeded to kill them. Another point... He had mater his Sharingan at that stage to a degree which allowed him direct contact with the Nine Tails. Who himself displayed fear in sight of Sasuke's Sharingan.

Secondly, someone trained to resist genjustu cast by the Sharingan like Deidara had a hard time in his fight with Sasuke... And the majority of the battle was genjutsu. He fell to Sasuke's eyes.

Thirdly, When faced off with Itachi... Sasuke broke free one of the most powerful genjutsus if not the most powerful Tsukiyomi with an ordinary Sharingan.
There are speculations that he only beat it because of the blood relation between them both. I SAY Sasuke surpassed Itachi at that point where occular power came into consideration... Note: Itachi was close to blindness.
Sasuke then awoken his Mangekyo Sharingan, taking his abilities to a whole new level where we could hold his own against the Kages for a short time. The was still confident enough in his abilities to fight the likes of Danzo.
During their fight... Sasuke demonstrated great mastery in genjutsu when he executed Tsukiyomi, no matter how short... he pulled it off and was able to trick Danzo.
His fight with Bee was quite impressive but anyone with common sense knew Sasuke and his team would have been killed if Bee had any intention of fighting seriously.

Last but not least... Take a look at all of Sasuke's accomplishments since he left the tutalege of Orochimaru. He has grown to a point of being acknowledged Kage level if not higher [S-rank maybe?]
And now he has gained the EMS. And from what was shown in the last manga release... Naruto is still nowhere near the level of Sasuke's skills and or intelligence. He has raw power... Sure. But we're yet to have seen Sasuke's new power, so its safe to say that Sasuke has risen to a level equal to that of Madara if he had not surpassed him by now.
You're thinking no he hasnt because Madara has the Rinnegan... Its not about the power you weild, but how you weild it.
He was regarded as a genius from the start.
I am not a Sasuke fanboy... But from the way the last manga release played out. Im having doubts about Naruto and his "new found power"

You're so wrong that I don't know where to start... I can go on and on but going to make it simple, Zetsu already stated Naruto was stronger than Sasuke and at the time they had Sage mode and MS. As for sasuke progress, he was at jounin level while Naruto was at high chunin, Naruto got to jounin level after learning Rasen Shuriken (surpass kakashi) and Kage level with Sage Mode. Sasuke got WEAKER after losing his curse seal in his fight with Itachi. MS only made up the power that he lost and got stronger in his fight with the kages because of his anger/hatred that filled him and made him clod and dark.yeah sasuke fought with 4 of the kages for alittle bit but Naruto fought with 6 path of pains and killed all 6 (with toads and fox help, but Naruto dealt the final blows) and I think 6 rinnegan users at kage level is worst than 4 kages. As for Naruto sucking last chapter, Naruto has been pushing himself for the past 30 chapters. Naruto went from chasing Kisame to learning to control his chakra arms to learning variations of the rasengan( wasn't shown but bee boast how it's thanks to his training), to trying to transform into the fox (bee said it drained alot of chakra from Naruto) to trying to learn tail beast bomb (burned Naruto's hand and exhausted him) to breaking out of a powerful barrier (with bee's tbb) to having a speed match with the 4th Raikage to fighting white Zetsus with his rasengan variations to making alot of clones to fight in every battlefield to fight/beat an edo to fighting Itachi and Nagato, the his clones are fight in everyone of the battlefields and one clone beat 2 powerful edo kages and fought madara with help. Naruto gains what his clones experience physically and mentally, physically meaning he'll feel exhausted which is what Naruto felt after his clone dispersed from the battlefield ( kages vs madara). Naruto is near exhaustion which is why he's not making shadow clones or spam and rasengans like he usually would do.

 

[Tosen]

hypothetically since we don't know the full capabilities of Sasuke EMS or rinnegan (if he achieves it) this is how I see it

Sasuke rinnegan > EMS Sasuke = Kyuubi mode Naruto

I foresee Naruto getting one more power up that will put him in an even playing field with Sasuke.

 

[xxSAGExx]

hypothetically since we don't know the full capabilities of Sasuke EMS or rinnegan (if he achieves it) this is how I see it

Sasuke rinnegan > EMS Sasuke = Kyuubi mode Naruto

I foresee Naruto getting one more power up that will put him in an even playing field with Sasuke.

well kishi already showed naruto with Sage Mode and Kyuubi Mode eyes fused in the Pain Arc so thats going to most likely be his next powerup.

 

[Raiten Uchiha]

Before i decided to make an account on here i saw most of you and your constructive criticism... But i was like hey why not, it might be fun going toe to toe with these ppl... All i see is that you put down someone for THEIR OPINION... now listen, if you had read what i wrote carefully instead of jumping into calling me a fanboy and a Sasuke lover.. you'd all see where you went wrong. I simply wanted your view on how he has grown. If you dnt like Sasuke stay off my thread because this IS NOT FOR SASUKE HATERS. Its for Naruto Shippuden Fans who dnt have their heads up their @sses.
Some of you stay on topic and try not to make this personnal and i greatly appreciate that. For the rest of you... Its fine if you dnt want to acknowledge Sasuke, just keep the negativity off my thread..
Tyvfm...