Sasuke's Sharingan Surpasses Naruto's Kyuubi Mode.

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First of all... With the Sharingan, depending on how much mastery the weilder has. Can be the most formidable weapon on any battle field as seen in many manga and episodes.
Yes im aware you all know this... Im just tryna prove a point.
As it stands now, i feel Sasuke is far stronger than naruto for a few reasons.
Naruto has never caught up with Sasuke, why?
When they met for the first time in close to 3 years. Sasuke owned Naruto, Sai, Yamato, Sakura [She didnt really do anything] then proceeded to kill them. Another point... He had mater his Sharingan at that stage to a degree which allowed him direct contact with the Nine Tails. Who himself displayed fear in sight of Sasuke's Sharingan.

Secondly, someone trained to resist genjustu cast by the Sharingan like Deidara had a hard time in his fight with Sasuke... And the majority of the battle was genjutsu. He fell to Sasuke's eyes.

Thirdly, When faced off with Itachi... Sasuke broke free one of the most powerful genjutsus if not the most powerful Tsukiyomi with an ordinary Sharingan.
There are speculations that he only beat it because of the blood relation between them both. I SAY Sasuke surpassed Itachi at that point where occular power came into consideration... Note: Itachi was close to blindness.
Sasuke then awoken his Mangekyo Sharingan, taking his abilities to a whole new level where we could hold his own against the Kages for a short time. The was still confident enough in his abilities to fight the likes of Danzo.
During their fight... Sasuke demonstrated great mastery in genjutsu when he executed Tsukiyomi, no matter how short... he pulled it off and was able to trick Danzo.
His fight with Bee was quite impressive but anyone with common sense knew Sasuke and his team would have been killed if Bee had any intention of fighting seriously.

Last but not least... Take a look at all of Sasuke's accomplishments since he left the tutalege of Orochimaru. He has grown to a point of being acknowledged Kage level if not higher [S-rank maybe?]
And now he has gained the EMS. And from what was shown in the last manga release... Naruto is still nowhere near the level of Sasuke's skills and or intelligence. He has raw power... Sure. But we're yet to have seen Sasuke's new power, so its safe to say that Sasuke has risen to a level equal to that of Madara if he had not surpassed him by now.
You're thinking no he hasnt because Madara has the Rinnegan... Its not about the power you weild, but how you weild it.
He was regarded as a genius from the start.
I am not a Sasuke fanboy... But from the way the last manga release played out. Im having doubts about Naruto and his "new found power"
 

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nah, tell Sasuke with a base sharingan, with no MS to fight Kyuubi mode Naruto, and then get back at me
 

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Sasuke with base sharingan would get smashed by km Naruto.
 

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S rank is a designation given to powerful ninja who have left their village. It is not a rank given to someone who is better than a Kage.
 

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Kishi is just trying to put us all in a suspense. Very soon you will see the true power of Naruto..
 

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tbh im a lil dissapointed in narutos performance in the current fight with madara... all he seems to be doing is falling on his arse while bee does all the fighting...
 

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I obviously mean where they're both at now.
And I mean unless Sasuke uses Susanoo, he's fodder, he's not winning any fights with kyuubi mode naruto without some MS assistance, which means that sharingan is not better than kyuubi mode
 

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I'm agree with u. Without genjutsu,sasuke cant beat naruto even with ems. But genjutsu is the naruto's weak point. 4 counter it,naruto have to team up with kyubi like bee. Thats the only way 4 both naruto and kyubi 2 save theirself from sasuke. And naruto real need more power n skill 2 fight against sasuke.
 

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Sasuke is a rogue ninja you know...

You said Sasuke is at a point of being Kage level if not higher, S-rank. Just because someone is S-ranked doesn't necessarily mean they are better than a Kage. Besides, it's already been stated that Sasuke is S rank.
 

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I disagree because:
1. We have no idea what power does EMS Sasuke has... and remember that strong guys tend to get cocky and arrogant and underestimate their opponent.

2.Keep in mind that Naruto made several clones at the start, and now he is not fighting at full power.

3.Sasuke could barely keep up with Raikage (and actually he didn't, it was more like he predicted) and Naruto is faster than that.

4.Sasuke has reached his limit in what regards his eyes... even if he does awaken Rinnegan he has no skill with it whatsoever, so training would be necessary (no time for that now) While Naruto on the other hand can still become friends with the Kiuby which would be quite a powerup, and if possible to mix SM with KM.

5.Sasuke's only attack that is a problem for Naruto is Tsukuiomi because he can avoid Amaterasu, and he can Outlast Sasuke's Susanoo.

But i have to say that nr 1. is the most relevant... hate when people overrate Sasuke without even knowing his abilities... yea he might be uber powerful, to be able to wipe out all the Kages in an instant... but we don't know that so stfu
 

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I disagree because:
1. We have no idea what power does EMS Sasuke has... and remember that strong guys tend to get cocky and arrogant and underestimate their opponent.

2.Keep in mind that Naruto made several clones at the start, and now he is not fighting at full power.

3.Sasuke could barely keep up with Raikage (and actually he didn't, it was more like he predicted) and Naruto is faster than that.

4.Sasuke has reached his limit in what regards his eyes... even if he does awaken Rinnegan he has no skill with it whatsoever, so training would be necessary (no time for that now) While Naruto on the other hand can still become friends with the Kiuby which would be quite a powerup, and if possible to mix SM with KM.

5.Sasuke's only attack that is a problem for Naruto is Tsukuiomi because he can avoid Amaterasu, and he can Outlast Sasuke's Susanoo.

But i have to say that nr 1. is the most relevant... hate when people overrate Sasuke without even knowing his abilities... yea he might be uber powerful, to be able to wipe out all the Kages in an instant... but we don't know that so stfu

^This, OWNED the Thread xd well done mate
 

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You said Sasuke is at a point of being Kage level if not higher, S-rank. Just because someone is S-ranked doesn't necessarily mean they are better than a Kage. Besides, it's already been stated that Sasuke is S rank.

We're both basically tryna prove a similar point... thnx for pointing out my slip.
much appreciated.
 

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I disagree because:
1. We have no idea what power does EMS Sasuke has... and remember that strong guys tend to get cocky and arrogant and underestimate their opponent.

2.Keep in mind that Naruto made several clones at the start, and now he is not fighting at full power.

3.Sasuke could barely keep up with Raikage (and actually he didn't, it was more like he predicted) and Naruto is faster than that.

4.Sasuke has reached his limit in what regards his eyes... even if he does awaken Rinnegan he has no skill with it whatsoever, so training would be necessary (no time for that now) While Naruto on the other hand can still become friends with the Kiuby which would be quite a powerup, and if possible to mix SM with KM.

5.Sasuke's only attack that is a problem for Naruto is Tsukuiomi because he can avoid Amaterasu, and he can Outlast Sasuke's Susanoo.

But i have to say that nr 1. is the most relevant... hate when people overrate Sasuke without even knowing his abilities... yea he might be uber powerful, to be able to wipe out all the Kages in an instant... but we don't know that so stfu

You make it clear that you dislike Sasuke... I am not overrating him.
simply pointing out the facts.
no need to be negative.
 

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We're both basically tryna prove a similar point... thnx for pointing out my slip.
much appreciated.
No problem, and in your defense you did say maybe. It just irks me when people still can't get their ranks right this far into the manga. Especially those who still think that the title of "Sannin" is a rank. :mad:
 

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I disagree because:
1. We have no idea what power does EMS Sasuke has... and remember that strong guys tend to get cocky and arrogant and underestimate their opponent.

2.Keep in mind that Naruto made several clones at the start, and now he is not fighting at full power.

3.Sasuke could barely keep up with Raikage (and actually he didn't, it was more like he predicted) and Naruto is faster than that.

4.Sasuke has reached his limit in what regards his eyes... even if he does awaken Rinnegan he has no skill with it whatsoever, so training would be necessary (no time for that now) While Naruto on the other hand can still become friends with the Kiuby which would be quite a powerup, and if possible to mix SM with KM.

5.Sasuke's only attack that is a problem for Naruto is Tsukuiomi because he can avoid Amaterasu, and he can Outlast Sasuke's Susanoo.

But i have to say that nr 1. is the most relevant... hate when people overrate Sasuke without even knowing his abilities... yea he might be uber powerful, to be able to wipe out all the Kages in an instant... but we don't know that so stfu

rep 4 u bro.
 

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First of all... With the Sharingan, depending on how much mastery the weilder has. Can be the most formidable weapon on any battle field as seen in many manga and episodes.
Yes im aware you all know this... Im just tryna prove a point.
As it stands now, i feel Sasuke is far stronger than naruto for a few reasons.
Naruto has never caught up with Sasuke, why?
When they met for the first time in close to 3 years. Sasuke owned Naruto, Sai, Yamato, Sakura [She didnt really do anything] then proceeded to kill them. Another point... He had mater his Sharingan at that stage to a degree which allowed him direct contact with the Nine Tails. Who himself displayed fear in sight of Sasuke's Sharingan.

Secondly, someone trained to resist genjustu cast by the Sharingan like Deidara had a hard time in his fight with Sasuke... And the majority of the battle was genjutsu. He fell to Sasuke's eyes.

Thirdly, When faced off with Itachi... Sasuke broke free one of the most powerful genjutsus if not the most powerful Tsukiyomi with an ordinary Sharingan.
There are speculations that he only beat it because of the blood relation between them both. I SAY Sasuke surpassed Itachi at that point where occular power came into consideration... Note: Itachi was close to blindness.
Sasuke then awoken his Mangekyo Sharingan, taking his abilities to a whole new level where we could hold his own against the Kages for a short time. The was still confident enough in his abilities to fight the likes of Danzo.
During their fight... Sasuke demonstrated great mastery in genjutsu when he executed Tsukiyomi, no matter how short... he pulled it off and was able to trick Danzo.
His fight with Bee was quite impressive but anyone with common sense knew Sasuke and his team would have been killed if Bee had any intention of fighting seriously.

Last but not least... Take a look at all of Sasuke's accomplishments since he left the tutalege of Orochimaru. He has grown to a point of being acknowledged Kage level if not higher [S-rank maybe?]
And now he has gained the EMS. And from what was shown in the last manga release... Naruto is still nowhere near the level of Sasuke's skills and or intelligence. He has raw power... Sure. But we're yet to have seen Sasuke's new power, so its safe to say that Sasuke has risen to a level equal to that of Madara if he had not surpassed him by now.
You're thinking no he hasnt because Madara has the Rinnegan... Its not about the power you weild, but how you weild it.
He was regarded as a genius from the start.
I am not a Sasuke fanboy... But from the way the last manga release played out. Im having doubts about Naruto and his "new found power"

Just to say. Tobi told Sasuke that Naruto was stronger than Sasuke after the defeat of Pain. Example 1 of Naruto getting better than Sasuke. Sasuke has had most of his skill given to him. Sharingan makes things easy. orochimaru gave sasuke increased agility and other stuff and taught him new jutsu and gave him opponents. Itachi gave Sasuke that win against him and also the Amaterasu was sealed within Sasuke by Itachi,Sasuke didn't learn it. Sasuke didn't use Tsukiyomi on danzo, he just used genjutsu. Danzo simply said it was a far cry from Itachi's Tsukiyomi. And now, Sasuke has been GIVEN Itachi's eyes. I don't dislike Sasuke, in fact, I like him. but I know he gets shit handed to him and Naruto has had to work for everything, whilst dealing with having the 9-tails torment.
 

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You make it clear that you dislike Sasuke... I am not overrating him.
simply pointing out the facts.
no need to be negative.

Nah, it's not really that i dislike Sasuke, but all the Fanboys and Sasuke lovers ruined the character for Me...
And about the overrating part... it was a general observation... when you see 3 threads a day with EMS Sasuke VS... or EMS Sasuke can do this, and do that, and own people, you get tired of it.
 

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First of all... With the Sharingan, depending on how much mastery the weilder has. Can be the most formidable weapon on any battle field as seen in many manga and episodes.
Yes im aware you all know this... Im just tryna prove a point.
As it stands now, i feel Sasuke is far stronger than naruto for a few reasons.
Naruto has never caught up with Sasuke, why?
When they met for the first time in close to 3 years. Sasuke owned Naruto, Sai, Yamato, Sakura [She didnt really do anything] then proceeded to kill them. Another point... He had mater his Sharingan at that stage to a degree which allowed him direct contact with the Nine Tails. Who himself displayed fear in sight of Sasuke's Sharingan.

Secondly, someone trained to resist genjustu cast by the Sharingan like Deidara had a hard time in his fight with Sasuke... And the majority of the battle was genjutsu. He fell to Sasuke's eyes.

Thirdly, When faced off with Itachi... Sasuke broke free one of the most powerful genjutsus if not the most powerful Tsukiyomi with an ordinary Sharingan.
There are speculations that he only beat it because of the blood relation between them both. I SAY Sasuke surpassed Itachi at that point where occular power came into consideration... Note: Itachi was close to blindness.
Sasuke then awoken his Mangekyo Sharingan, taking his abilities to a whole new level where we could hold his own against the Kages for a short time. The was still confident enough in his abilities to fight the likes of Danzo.
During their fight... Sasuke demonstrated great mastery in genjutsu when he executed Tsukiyomi, no matter how short... he pulled it off and was able to trick Danzo.
His fight with Bee was quite impressive but anyone with common sense knew Sasuke and his team would have been killed if Bee had any intention of fighting seriously.

Last but not least... Take a look at all of Sasuke's accomplishments since he left the tutalege of Orochimaru. He has grown to a point of being acknowledged Kage level if not higher [S-rank maybe?]
And now he has gained the EMS. And from what was shown in the last manga release... Naruto is still nowhere near the level of Sasuke's skills and or intelligence. He has raw power... Sure. But we're yet to have seen Sasuke's new power, so its safe to say that Sasuke has risen to a level equal to that of Madara if he had not surpassed him by now.
You're thinking no he hasnt because Madara has the Rinnegan... Its not about the power you weild, but how you weild it.
He was regarded as a genius from the start.
I am not a Sasuke fanboy... But from the way the last manga release played out. Im having doubts about Naruto and his "new found power"

Everybody were just confused when Itachi said ''Ninja with the same bloodline limit as mine is able to defeat me''

Bloodline limit= Kekkei genkai. And he meant the Mangekyos.
 
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