Sasuke's Rinnegan Genjutsu has no defense except Rinnegan (what's Naruto's answer?)

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We learned during the casting of Mugen Tsukuyomi that Rinnegan genjutsu can only countered by another Rinnegan, and that Sasuke was protected against it. The manga also made it clear that Naruto wasn't protected against Mugen Tsukuyomi (despite having Six Paths Sage Mode and Kurama):

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In chapter 699 we see that Sasuke has to release the Bijuu from the genjutsu that placed on them:

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First consider the traumas that the Bijuu experienced. They had Sasuke forcibly taking chakra from them. They were situated in the epicenter of a continental level explosion. On top of that, they then fell from one mile up in the air. Despite all that, they were still under Sasuke's Rinnegan genjutsu. This makes two things clear: firstly that physical trauma and the disruption of a person's chakra system aren't sufficient in getting a person out of Rinnegan genjutsu. Secondly that Sasuke's statement regarding Rinnegan genjutsu is correct; only a Rinnegan can break Rinnegan genjutsu.

This leaves the question, what exactly is Naruto's answer to Sasuke's Rinnegan genjutsu? The perfect Jinchuriki method of breaking out of genjutsu depends on the ability for genjutsu to be broken by simply disturbing the chakra of the victim. With Sasuke's Rinnegan we see that simply isn't sufficient...so what does Naruto do if Sasuke places him under genjutsu? For those thinking that he can simply avoid eye contact with Sasuke, you're forgetting that Viz and takL translations confirm that Sasuke placed all Nine Bijuu under genjutsu with a single glance.....once you consider the spacial arrangement of the Bijuu around Sasuke (i.e in a circle), you realize that Sasuke didn't require eye contact with the Bijuu...
 

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Chakra disruption should still work.
 

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Jinchuriki are resistant to all forms of genjutsu.

Manga facts.
 

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Chakra disruption should still work.

True but everyone is affected by rinne genjutsu so whoever tries to break naruto out would be in the genjutsu themselves so chakra disruption isn't happening...
 

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Jinchuriki are resistant to all forms of genjutsu.

Manga facts.
Read the thread or GTFO.

Also, it's also a manga fact that Yagura (despite being a perfect Jin) was placed under genjutsu for a long ass time.
 

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True but everyone is affected by rinne genjutsu so whoever tries to break naruto out would be in the genjutsu themselves so chakra disruption isn't happening...

That was only it, sasuke can no cast it himself, he needs naruto or the beast. The flower and so much more. There were so many factors towards casting the it.
Everyone was affected because of mokuton
 

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Amazing. Beautiful. Inspiring. These are all things that I could say of your thread.

Now to wait and see if someone can challenge it.
 

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Read the thread or GTFO.

Also, it's also a manga fact that Yagura (despite being a perfect Jin) was placed under genjutsu for a long ass time.

Tell me again when you wrote "Naruto" lol?

Jinchuriki are resistant to all forms of genjutsu, until that's proven in the Manga, then I'll believe it.

I won't read your OP because it's clearly going to Sasuke's favor when you and I both know anything Naruto can do, Sasuke can equal it, and vice versa. Trying to write an argument on which has a upper-hand than the other is useless.

Also. Naruto could fight Sasuke with his eyes closed, or did you forget his sensing prowess? Anyway, good day mate.
 

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The Bijuu say otherwise...

They can't disrupt their own chakra, you need an external force.
Beside they don't count, the sharrigan was made to control them.
They were free and ready to be controlled, the beast are weak alone.
And kuruma showed great resistance to being controlled
 

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Tell me again when you wrote "Naruto" lol?

Jinchuriki are resistant to all forms of genjutsu, until that's proven in the Manga, then I'll believe it.

I won't read your OP because it's clearly going to Sasuke's favor when you and I both know anything Naruto can do, Sasuke can equal it, and vice versa. Trying to write an argument on which has a upper-hand than the other is useless.

Also. Naruto could fight Sasuke with his eyes closed, or did you forget his sensing prowess? Anyway, good day mate.

There's never been any Rinnegan genjutsu before, so when they said that it didn't apply to it. Just like it doesn't apply to Itachi's Tsukiyomi.
 

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Tell me again when you wrote "Naruto" lol?

Jinchuriki are resistant to all forms of genjutsu, until that's proven in the Manga, then I'll believe it.

I won't read your OP because it's clearly going to Sasuke's favor when you and I both know anything Naruto can do, Sasuke can equal it, and vice versa. Trying to write an argument on which has a upper-hand than the other is useless.

Also. Naruto could fight Sasuke with his eyes closed, or did you forget his sensing prowess? Anyway, good day mate.
I'm warning you, read the OP or GTFO.

Perfect Jin were said to be resistant because their Bijuu partner could disrupt their chakra. As I've shown in the OP, even the most extreme traumas are ineffective against Rinnegan genjutsu. The Bijuu partner method simply doesn't hold weight in this situation.
 

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Does taking away chakra from the beasts counts as chakra disruption?
 
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