Sasukes revenge is the RIGHT decision , and he has good reason.
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Uchiha Siame
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When bush went to war with alqaida in afghan, he was avenging 911, and the way to do it was to kill every member and not just those who did/ploted it. And yes he is avenging Uchiha the right way cos for the sake of konoha the uchiha were killed so the eye which is Uchiha will be avenged upon the eye which is konoha, and not the pupil only
Uchiha Siame
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The Uchiha were the most powerfull clan, every one holds it high. And if not for the massacre Sasuke would have no need for their help as he'd grow eith his clan.If itachi were'nt a traitor the plan would have succeded and we would have an Uchiha hokage won by coup. And if they only killed the plotters then goin after Anbu and the elders is right but did they? No instead they killed the entire clan therefore Sasuke would have been an idiot of epic.proportions for not wanting to kill all of konoha
Gooner4life
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Come on, do you really believe that crap, by that logic all of Islam should be murdered because Al Qaeda feels that muslims benefited from 9/11 . Stop being stupid, the war that they were plotting would have killed many more people than those who were killed already, what Konoha did was the lesser of two evils, what Sasuke is doing won't bring back his clan and two wrongs don't make a right no matter how you try to twist it, I see where he is coming from but what he wants to do is not right and I worry for your morality if you think another genocide is the solution
kakashi danquah
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it actually makes sense because you at the end of the day you cant change sokeones path its theirs and the uchiha is retrospective you gotta flip it the other way women and children are innocnet unless fighting and they werent fighting so they were innocent and his bond with naruto is hollow its there but it needs to be refilleed
And why exactly should Sasuke give a rats ass about the wishes and dreams of his psychopath brother? First he tortures him and leaves him in the dark for longer then they even were together as kids then he learns the complete opposite of what he believed to be true.
Everything bad that happened to Sasuke is because Itachi is a dumbass who pushed him further and further into darkness with a plan that had no chance of working out.
People are so god damn biased when it comes to Sasuke that all reasonable judgement just gets removed from sight and all thats left is unjustified hatred. If you can't grow the f**k up and look beyond your own short-sightness you'd understand full well why he can't just live in Konoha nor forgive them.
People speak of innocents dying.. what about all the Uchiha? they were innocent aswel - not to mention Konoha isn't the peace loving village we're all led to believe in the first place.
Everything bad that happened to Sasuke is because Itachi is a dumbass who pushed him further and further into darkness with a plan that had no chance of working out.
People are so god damn biased when it comes to Sasuke that all reasonable judgement just gets removed from sight and all thats left is unjustified hatred. If you can't grow the f**k up and look beyond your own short-sightness you'd understand full well why he can't just live in Konoha nor forgive them.
People speak of innocents dying.. what about all the Uchiha? they were innocent aswel - not to mention Konoha isn't the peace loving village we're all led to believe in the first place.
Gooner4life
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I completely understand him despising Konoha, that is different from wanting to kill everyone there.
Eg. I hate Robin Van Persie, doesn't mean I want to kill him and his family.
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considering that konoha was formed by both the senju and uchiha i see no reason why they uchihas should not have be given the title of hokage i mean that was all they asked for and from what we have seen its not like the hokage is one all powerful dictator ,they re still answerable to the elders but no they had to wait for jiraiyia or tsunade to return, people who cared less about the village simply because konoha was biased towards the uchihas and they act suprised when the uchihas try to plot a coup.as for the issue of sasuke i would side with him not cos i am a sasuke fan boy which i am but cos i hate konoha and all those who after doing something wrong and claim to turn a new leaf expect people to forget their wrong doings. l mean look at what konoha did to the rain village who had nothing to do with their war yet tsunade could still accuse pain of destroying her grandfathers creation.
I still believe that Kishi's plan to make Itachi a good character came way after he created him in the first place. First he was 100% bad guy that was meant to make Sasuke hate everybody and train hard for killing him.
Later, to make a nice twist in the plot, he decided to make Itachi a good guy so it causes more confusion and makes the story more complicated. Believe me, I'm sure that Itachi's first role was just being the bad guy who made Sasuke stronger and a somewhat a problematic person. The whole sacrifice thing probably came way later.
Uchiha Siame
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Uchiha Siame
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Cos of the circumstances surrounding the whole issue, if they negotiated and made an uchiha hokage and ended the discrimination, and not murderd innocents then there would be non of this, so yeah Sasuke is right
CurseSealofEarth
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I see a lot of saying "Itachi murdered children too" just isn't true. Itachi and Sasuke were the two youngest of the clan at the time. What Itachi did to Sasuke was ultimately selfish, he left him alive just so he wouldn't have to live with killing his baby brother.
What Sasuke plans to do to Konoha is not justice, it is murder. It's not revenge, most didn't have anything to do with it. The Uchiha are cursed with dark chakra, it is their nature.
One good Uchiha (Itachi) does not make up for the sins of all the others as what they planned to do.
What Sasuke plans to do to Konoha is not justice, it is murder. It's not revenge, most didn't have anything to do with it. The Uchiha are cursed with dark chakra, it is their nature.
One good Uchiha (Itachi) does not make up for the sins of all the others as what they planned to do.
KyuubiUzumaki
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I think it is the predictable and in a sense understandable outcome - to an extent; opposed to it being the right one. For it to be RIGHT - it has to be morally acceptable; and with the question of morals, in MY opinion it is not the right thing to do. Please, this is my opinion - feel free to have your own.
Before I start; i would like to point out that I am not a Sasuke fanboy, or any fanboy for that matter - as I think all the characters have their roles - which has resulted in a great Manga and Anime series.
Anyway, if you actually consider the perspective Sasuke is coming from - to a young adolescent, when your clan dies (when you are young); ad knowing Sasuke has already trained his life for one objective, it is guaranteed that he would go for revenge; initially on Itachi. Up till being a Genin, he has slaved away trying to excel to the best of his ability. Eventually, when he finds that it is not enough - he no longer really sees reason, or what is morally correct. No, all for him - is that 1 objective... revenge on the person who killed his clan. Up till now, it was really quite predictable, if you noticed the mental strain on Sasuke; when Naruto steadily decreased the gap; up till guess what - Naruto's Rasengan proved to be capable of a bigger destructive effect that Sasuke's Chidori.
We all know what happens next - Sasuke's move into darkness etc etc
However, lets skip to the bit where he fights Itachi. Now initially he hates him with a visible intensity, but at the end of the battle - in a perfect scenario for Sasuke, he wins, goes back to Konoha or lives his life out of trouble - that is the positive outlook, could be worse for all we know.
However, it didnt happen like that. He was down for the count - he was dead almost as soon as he fired his Kirin, he had exhausted his Chakra, and Itachi - has his Susanoo. With help from Orochimaru he lasts till Itachi effectively exhausts his resources as well.
Now when Tobi tells him the truth what does Sasuke think? He realises this whole time, he had been aiming for a hero of Konoha, a good person. What can he do? Go back after all of this? To face what? Angry with himself, but even more - at those who caused this in the first place, like an angry teenager, Sasuke justifies his 'only option' - destroy Konoha. Convincing himself, really couldnt have been that difficult - with Tobi there; and his own limited options.
The rest, we are aware of.
Before I start; i would like to point out that I am not a Sasuke fanboy, or any fanboy for that matter - as I think all the characters have their roles - which has resulted in a great Manga and Anime series.
Anyway, if you actually consider the perspective Sasuke is coming from - to a young adolescent, when your clan dies (when you are young); ad knowing Sasuke has already trained his life for one objective, it is guaranteed that he would go for revenge; initially on Itachi. Up till being a Genin, he has slaved away trying to excel to the best of his ability. Eventually, when he finds that it is not enough - he no longer really sees reason, or what is morally correct. No, all for him - is that 1 objective... revenge on the person who killed his clan. Up till now, it was really quite predictable, if you noticed the mental strain on Sasuke; when Naruto steadily decreased the gap; up till guess what - Naruto's Rasengan proved to be capable of a bigger destructive effect that Sasuke's Chidori.
We all know what happens next - Sasuke's move into darkness etc etc
However, lets skip to the bit where he fights Itachi. Now initially he hates him with a visible intensity, but at the end of the battle - in a perfect scenario for Sasuke, he wins, goes back to Konoha or lives his life out of trouble - that is the positive outlook, could be worse for all we know.
However, it didnt happen like that. He was down for the count - he was dead almost as soon as he fired his Kirin, he had exhausted his Chakra, and Itachi - has his Susanoo. With help from Orochimaru he lasts till Itachi effectively exhausts his resources as well.
Now when Tobi tells him the truth what does Sasuke think? He realises this whole time, he had been aiming for a hero of Konoha, a good person. What can he do? Go back after all of this? To face what? Angry with himself, but even more - at those who caused this in the first place, like an angry teenager, Sasuke justifies his 'only option' - destroy Konoha. Convincing himself, really couldnt have been that difficult - with Tobi there; and his own limited options.
The rest, we are aware of.
orochitheoni
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Sasuke's revenge should lay at Tobi's feet. I believe if Tobi hadn't release the fox that night then the Uchiha wouldn't have isolated or felt they were discriminated against. Itachi and Shisui were powerful enough that either one could have been Hokage after Minato stepped down. Not to say Danzo wouldn't have been a douche, he wouldn't of had the excuse that the Uchiha controlled the fox that night. He should take his vengence out on Tobi. It all leads back to him anyway.