Sasuke's Power

[LeeRocks]

Of Sasuke's abilities, up until this point, which did he acquire through learning/training and which did he require as a result of another's actions (both in manga and anime)?

I really have a genuine interest. Please no Sasuke bashing or fanaticism, a simple list would suffice if you don't mind. Thanks!

 

[Unorthodox]

all of em

 

[Dantee]

I got you...


I'll say this for now everything Sasuke has done he did it for revenge. Sasuke power is driven by his hate. Sasuke trained very hard under Oro almost training non stop. Tobi and Itachi acted as teachers and set it up so he can gain more power. Tobi admitted himself sending Sasuke on this wild battles so he can further advance his MS. Sasuke gaining a summoning tech is proof of off screen training that Kishi won't show to speed up the manga.

Sasuke earns his power.

 

[Exaar]

all of em

He did nothing to Gain EMS, Tobi Gave him itachi's eyes on a whim.

 

[Aquaglow]

Basically he learned everything on his own. Then he trained alot! Except the mangekyo which Itachi gave to him!

 

[sytren]

Lets see...only training he's actually done was during the time skip...after that he was given his MS...given amatarasu...since was given ms he in turn was given susano...he was given EMS...oh and he's about to be given another thing when Itachi gives him a head poke...sooooo i think the better questions is what hasn't he been given. Even in first series where he actually trained...he was given curse mark and put in a tub to be given curse mark lvl 2

 

[NOemotions]

He did nothing to Gain EMS, Tobi Gave him itachi's eyes on a whim.

This, and more is coming prolly.. weak sausage.

 

[Anduril]

Only Rock Lee's speed =DD

 

[~MC117~]

Kirin, then everything else was given xd jk
I could post them but I would have to write too much

 

[natssuu]

Lets see...only training he's actually done was during the time skip...after that he was given his MS...given amatarasu...since was given ms he in turn was given susano...he was given EMS...oh and he's about to be given another thing when Itachi gives him a head poke...sooooo i think the better questions is what hasn't he been given. Even in first series where he actually trained...he was given curse mark and put in a tub to be given curse mark lvl 2

All Sasuke's abilities that were ''given'' to him are the same as how Kyuubi was given to Naruto. Sasuke mastered Curse mark and Mangekyos just like how Naruto mastered the power of Kyuubi.

 

[FPS]

Sasuke gained nothing on his own...Everything he has now was either given to him by orochimaru or itachi.

 

[WillToWin]

Sasuke gained nothing on his own...Everything he has now was either given to him by orochimaru or itachi.

That's like saying Naruto didn't do anything to gain the Kyubi. Orochimaru didn't really give him that much. Maybe a few snake techs. He learned better taijutsu, genjutsu, he improved the chidori with many variants, Kirin, and a Fire Dragon Tech. Itachi did give the MS that's pretty much it. But Sasuke trained for the MS and became stronger.

 

[sytren]

All Sasuke's abilities that were ''given'' to him are the same as how Kyuubi was given to Naruto. Sasuke mastered Curse mark and Mangekyos just like how Naruto mastered the power of Kyuubi.

Maybe...but naruto at least did the shadow clone training and made a new technique that's considered above S rank. And he has evolved that into further techniques. And then he was trained again by bee. So all in all naruto has done alot more training than sasuke has. And was given one thing while sasuke has been given many.

 

[WillToWin]

He did nothing to Gain EMS, Tobi Gave him itachi's eyes on a whim.

Dude, are you delusional? You don't need to do anything to get the EMS. Sasuke could of have the EMS before the Killer Bee showdown. I should of taken EMS way before fighting Bee. Sasuke was a fool, for not taking it earlier.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I got you...


I'll say this for now everything Sasuke has done he did it for revenge. Sasuke power is driven by his hate. Sasuke trained very hard under Oro almost training non stop. Tobi and Itachi acted as teachers and set it up so he can gain more power. Tobi admitted himself sending Sasuke on this wild battles so he can further advance his MS. Sasuke gaining a summoning tech is proof of off screen training that Kishi won't show to speed up the manga.

Sasuke earns his power.

That's a little biased don't you think. He got his power to beat Naruto and push a second part from Orochimaru. He got more powerful eyes from Itachi. He learned chidori and advanced it to true spear and Kirin on his own i believe. But to be honest Sasuke did less work than other ninjas because his Sharingan allows him to learn and adapt quicker.

 

[WillToWin]

Maybe...but naruto at least did the shadow clone training and made a new technique that's considered above S rank. And he has evolved that into further techniques. And then he was trained again by bee. So all in all naruto has done alot more training than sasuke has. And was given one thing while sasuke has been given many.

Sasuke doesn't need to train, like Naruto. Sasuke is knowledgeable and he gets things much quicker than Naruto does. Naruto has gained power by himself, but he still got given powers just like Sasuke. So both of them aren't different in the least. Sasuke gets things much quicker and Naruto takes time. Naruto is more resistant and Sasuke is not.

 

[Champ]

Tobi said that Sasuke had to train his MS in battle
to a level to reach Susanoo, to me Sasuke's trains thru battles.

Sasuke fights Killer B acquires Amaterasu

Sasuke fights Raikage he acquires Susanoo

Sasuke fights Danzo with a fully Mastered MS

 

[sytren]

Sasuke doesn't need to train, like Naruto. Sasuke is knowledgeable and he gets things much quicker than Naruto does. Naruto has gained power by himself, but he still got given powers just like Sasuke. So both of them aren't different in the least. Sasuke gets things much quicker and Naruto takes time. Naruto is more resistant and Sasuke is not.

And yet naruto doesn't really fight battles where he has to be saved constantly or rush into battles he can't handle. (Like sasuke did with the 5 kage summit)

 

[Dantee]

That's a little biased don't you think. He got his power to beat Naruto and push a second part from Orochimaru. He got more powerful eyes from Itachi. He learned chidori and advanced it to true spear and Kirin on his own i believe. But to be honest Sasuke did less work than other ninjas because his Sharingan allows him to learn and adapt quicker.

Sasuke doing less work than other ninjas because of sharigan? Sasuke learns quicker and adapts because he is also considered a genius. Naruto used shadow clones to speed up his own training. Sasuke and Naruto are pretty much equal in the training department.

Naruto training with Jiraya, for a 2 years and a half, learning rasenshuriken in a week, sage mode in a month <= Sasukes 3 years of training.

Sasuke's MS,EMS, + gaining battle experience from Bee,Kages,Danzo and Zetsus = Naruto's Kyuubi Mode training with Bee

 

[FPS]

That's like saying Naruto didn't do anything to gain the Kyubi. Orochimaru didn't really give him that much. Maybe a few snake techs. He learned better taijutsu, genjutsu, he improved the chidori with many variants, Kirin, and a Fire Dragon Tech. Itachi did give the MS that's pretty much it. But Sasuke trained for the MS and became stronger.

I agree on what you said about orochimaru...But sasuke wouldn't be anywhere right now if it wasn't for itachi. Itachi earned the mangekyou on his own. Why couldn't sasuke try to earn the mangekyou for himself aswell? The only answer i can come up with right now is because sasuke is weak and cannot do so.