Sasukes plot shield > Narutos

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Didn't Frikid make a post with 60+ times that Naruto was saved by plot?

This thread is a joke.
 

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If I said prove it what would you do?

[FONT=Cambria, serif]Nothing. Because no matter what I do, you won't agree. [/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif]Such an 'conversation' is not worth my time.[/FONT]
 

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Sasuke would be dead if itachi didn't spare him

Naruto would be dead if his dad didn't save him during the Pain fight, if Bee didn't save him, if Kushina didn't save him, and if Hiruzen didn't save him from the killer tree. I could name more
 
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[FONT=Cambria, serif]Nothing. Because no matter what I do, you won't agree. [/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif]Such an 'conversation' is not worth my time.[/FONT]

You're assuming I won't. I said in the op give me your thoughts on who has the better plot shield. You just can't counter what I stated. Getting you neck and chest blown off and not dying(when others get killed by 2 or 3 kunais in the back) is on a whole other level. I admitted to naruto having his own but the fight with killer bee is just over the top. That is all my friend.
 

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You're assuming I won't. I said in the op give me your thoughts on who has the better plot shield. You just can't counter what I stated. Getting you neck and chest blown off and not dying(when others get killed by 2 or 3 kunais in the back) is on a whole other level. I admitted to naruto having his own but the fight with killer bee is just over the top. That is all my friend.

It takes time to bleed out and you only die when either your heart stops beating and you can no longer get blood to your brain after a certain period of time. (Even if your heart stops beating you aren't quite dead yet.) Juugo used his flesh to replace all that Sasuke lost and they were rather quick to respond.
 

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Naruto would be dead if his dad didn't save him during the Pain fight, if Bee didn't save him, if Kushina didn't save him, and if the rubber guy didn't save him during the meteor attack. I could name more

Do you even Kage Bunshin?
 

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Y'all protecting sasuke just as good as his ploy shield lol
 

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Y'all protecting sasuke just as good as his ploy shield lol

We still pale in comparison to Naruto's MC grade plotshield U_U

Still its only natural for Kishi to do whatever he can to keep them alive. They r some of the only ppl in the entire show that under no circumstances can die
 

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Y'all protecting sasuke just as good as his ploy shield lol

I am not defending Godsuke, I am providing examples of Jesusuto's many examples of pure plot, rivaling your main point, the Killer Bee battle. Naruto has several instances of getting just as thick plot armor.
 

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Yeah Sasuke having his whole chest just destroyed and not dying instantly was absurd. The damage Bee did with that Lariat was comparable to (if not greater than) the damage Jiraiya took in his fight with Pain. Also Jugo's DNA being able to replace bone is questionable (organs too, maybe arteries, just all the shit). And I could barely sit through the Danzo fight. Kishi did him dirty.
Another one was Sasuke surviving Deidara's self-destruct. And Jinton. How could Tobi have Kamui'd him out of there?

Naruto's plot armor (at least in part 2) is more prevalent in his TNJ, which is much less severe than living through certain death scenarios.
 
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[FONT=Cambria, serif]Early Part 2: Naruto was plotshielded, Sasuke could've easily killed him, Yamato, etc.[/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif](Naruto vs Deidara, Kakashi saved his ass .)[/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif]Naruto vs Kakuzu, he should show his new technique.[/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif]Bijuu's getting extracted from him > Sasuke's chest blown away.[/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif]It was many times stated that getting an Bijuu extracted will kill you off instantly. Uzumaki's could stay alive for a bit more, but not that long. [/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif]Obito saving his a** recently. (when they met SO6P)[/FONT]
[FONT=Cambria, serif]That's all that came to my head right now, but I didn't really pay attention to Naruto's plot shield, because after all, he is the main character. I don't really care about Sasuke's plot shield either, both of them are the most important characters in NV, so it's clear that they won't die easily. I hope that you can accept my opinion about this.[/FONT]
 

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I'm telling you Danzo should have won that fight when he had Sasuke under the curse seal.
 

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I'm telling you Danzo should have won that fight when he had Sasuke under the curse seal.

And Sasuke should have won that fight when he rammed a Chidori straight through Naruto's lungs
 

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Im not asking I'm telling. I don't feel like retrieving scans so don't ask me but what I will say is danzo got hit by Kunai. Mind-boggling. There's no way sasuke should've won that fight. How do you waste izanagi on Kunai damage. Also, what idiot trains his eye for years to defeat itachis mangekyou genjutsu falls for a 3 tomoe genjutsu. Flabbergasted. Another one. Gets chest blown completely off. Lives to tell the tale. Speechless. I'm not bashing but my goodness, Naruto has his moments but sasuke simply farts every were in this category. I'm watching older episodes and I'm like :| seriously the whole time I'm like :|

Anyways gimme your thoughts on the matter. Strongest plot shield between the two.

They both have their plot shield but Sasuke's did make me more angry. He gets a power boost in his base from taking the pill that unlocks CM lvl 2, how is that fair? You can clearly see it increased his base stats from looking at Sasuke on the rooftop and VoTE Sasuke and see the difference in their stats. Naruto no summoning Gamabuta who would have captured Sasuke and hopped back to the village at best scenario and kill him at worst (If Naruto tells him Sasuke is going to Oro then it is stop or kill him and Gama knows Jiraiya views Oro as an enemy). Sasuke growth speed being increased with drugs and/or forbidden jutsus as Tsunade strongly believes since Sasuke's growth speed isn't normal. Gaining faster recovery abilities from having Orochimaru seal wasn't that bad but I was like "Where did that come from?" since if Orochimaru have that ability then why does his bodies fail? He can stay in a strong enough body but he can also improve that body since Kabuto did mention that they were prepping Kimimaru's body before his CM overtook his body.

Overall, Hebi Sasuke is my favorite Sasuke and I loved his fight against Deidara; he handled that great. MS Sasuke sucked because he was too blinded by hatred and only spammed his MS jutsus which made him blind much faster than Itachi who had MS for like 8 years while Sasuke had it for a few days to a week at max. I did like Sasuke around Danzo fight where he was cold but he still had some crazy there as well; they should have kept him like that and explored more of that side of him since Sasuke still showed his dark side in the war.

I rather they have Sasuke and Naruto take a few years to train and improve with their respective power ups (EMS and KM). I would have like to see Sasuke, Juugo, and Suigetsu (Karin was in Konoha jail and if there was a time skip then either the war haven't started yet and she would still be in jail or it has and she returned to Sasuke) get stronger and show new jutsus and abilities. I thought Sasuke should have copied A's lightning armor and maybe even made a lvl 3 to it, get a new weapon (maybe use 2 swords?), learn other elements like earth and/or water plus copied jutsus for all elements (need to be able to use the element in order to copy it like Kakashi). Maybe give Suigetsu another element as well as more jutsus. Give Juugo other abilities or have him learn how to perfectly balance his chakra with the natural energy (he would go wild cause he couldn't) and show him use his version of Prefect Sage Mode.

Do similar stuff for Naruto, Sakura, Konoha 11 as well and the war arc would have been much much better. Like when the Zetsus got the power up from having Yamato, have them use water, earth, and wood Justus themselves which would have made the fights better and make the death count more reasonable.
 
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