[VS] Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo vs. Hashirama's Shinsuusenju

[Turson]

Of course that Sasukes current Susanoo is much more powerful that SS. SS is only bigger, thats it. Madara, Naruto and Sasuke are in the ligue of their own.

 

[KidGamer65]

How is sasuke's susanoo>madara's? is it because sasuke's susanoo is bigger or does he some other upgrade over madara? if its because of size, how bigger are sasuke's swords compared to madara's swords?

The tactic of countering a sword by stopping it with hands works on any sword whether big or small

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And hands of Mokuton Goubi which stopped madara's susanoo swords are far smaller than Hotei no jutsu or hands of Shinsuusenju

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Well lets see...Madara cut 2 Mountains, and Sasuke cut 2 rocks much bigger than Mountain Ranges, and like Genii stated, its been amped by Hagoromo's power.

Yeah, depending on how the blade is swung and how fast it is swung. Sasuke's Susanoo swung its blade so fast that it cut through Mountain Range dwarfing rocks multiple times, and this was at the instant Naruto's Bijuu Dama exploded. If its swung too fast for the statue to catch, the whole endeavor is moot.

If its also not strong enough, it won't be able to catch it.

If it tries to restrain Susanoo before it attacks, it simply jumps away from it and chops it in half from the back.

 

[Strict]

Against Hashirama, Madara's PS swung its sword once and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscape and sliced a mountain range. Why didn't Sasuke do the same from the ground like Naruto throwing the Rasenshuriken? Instead of creating such a shock wave, he jumped towards the Chibaku Tensei to hit it directly with the sword. We can only assume which effect Madara's PS would have. I mean it has the same size and swords and Madara said it can crush all things in this universe with one strike. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his power, but this is limited to the Rinnegan. Sasuke has already Indra's Chakra flowing through his body and the Susanoo. When he activated his Susanoo, it had the same appearance as always until it get into its perfect form. It resembles Indra's form but has still differences, as it has more horns and different teeth.

Sasuke's imperfect legged Susanoo was shown to cut through a tendril which was multiple times bigger than Susanoo itself. So what the PS could cut when jumping directly towards the target? Madara's PS never directly stroke the mountains. It swung its sword, crushed the meteorite and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscale and cut two mountains, while that panel showed how this shock wave continued to travel. Against Hashirama we saw the same. The shock wave traveled through the landscape and cut mountain ranges. The first mountain range and the mountains behind, never shown to stop and cut anything on the panel. Swinging its sword to slice up distant mountain ranges an jumping towards the target and cutting through it are two different things.

Just lack to see the difference between Sasuke's and Madara's Susanoo. The same construct of Chakra, with the same size and blades. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his Rinnegan and Naruto his Senjutsu. The PS is the power of the EMS and Indra's Chakra was already flowing through him.

Theoretically, Madara's PS should also destroy the Shinsuusenju. If one swing of the blade slices mountain ranges, two swords could cut it into pieces.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Against Hashirama, Madara's PS swung its sword once and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscape and sliced a mountain range. Why didn't Sasuke do the same from the ground like Naruto throwing the Rasenshuriken? Instead of creating such a shock wave, he jumped towards the Chibaku Tensei to hit it directly with the sword. We can only assume which effect Madara's PS would have. I mean it has the same size and swords and Madara said it can crush all things in this universe with one strike. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his power, but this is limited to the Rinnegan. Sasuke has already Indra's Chakra flowing through his body and the Susanoo. When he activated his Susanoo, it had the same appearance as always until it get into its perfect form. It resembles Indra's form but has still differences, as it has more horns and different teeth.

Sasuke's imperfect legged Susanoo was shown to cut through a tendril which was multiple times bigger than Susanoo itself. So what the PS could cut when jumping directly towards the target? Madara's PS never directly stroke the mountains. It swung its sword, crushed the meteorite and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscale and cut two mountains, while that panel showed how this shock wave continued to travel. Against Hashirama we saw the same. The shock wave traveled through the landscape and cut mountain ranges. The first mountain range and the mountains behind, never shown to stop and cut anything on the panel. Swinging its sword to slice up distant mountain ranges an jumping towards the target and cutting through it are two different things.

Just lack to see the difference between Sasuke's and Madara's Susanoo. The same construct of Chakra, with the same size and blades. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his Rinnegan and Naruto his Senjutsu. The PS is the power of the EMS and Indra's Chakra was already flowing through him.

Theoretically, Madara's PS should also destroy the Shinsuusenju. If one swing of the blade slices mountain ranges, two swords could cut it into pieces.

So basically you don't believe Sasuke Susanoo is stronger than Madara's?

 

[Strict]

So basically you don't believe Sasuke Susanoo is stronger than Madara's?

I don't see why Madara's PS shouldn't accomplish the same when jumping towards the meteorites. As I said, the Susanoo is the power of the EMS and Indra's Chakra was also flowing through Sasuke. Hagoromo only gave Sasuke the Rinnegan and I doubt that this has any influence. They both are in the same situation. Madara is Indra's reincarnation with the EMS, so is Sasuke. This has nothing to do with Hagoromo giving Sasuke the Rinnegan.

Any logical flaws?

 

[adeshina365]

^^^Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[lucario14]

Madara's susanoo combined with the kyuubi did a lot of damage, but the susanoo armour was removed, and hasji's wood dragon subdued the kyuubi. Sasuke's susanoo is stronger plus more mobile so it will do the same damage without getting damaged itself. It would be close based on only recent feats of sasuke's susanoo but sasuke takes this high diff

 

[slimreaper]

Anyone comparing madara's susanoo to sasuke's.

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that rubble is the size of an entire mountain range. SOMEONE PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS COMPARISON

 

[schmeckie]

madaras susanoo could easily have cut up what sasukes did, we just didn't see his full power behind madaras swings because the frame was alot smaller scale than the one with sasuke

 

[slimreaper]

madaras susanoo could easily have cut up what sasukes did, we just didn't see his full power behind madaras swings because the frame was alot smaller scale than the one with sasuke

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[Unorthodox]

Against Hashirama, Madara's PS swung its sword once and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscape and sliced a mountain range. Why didn't Sasuke do the same from the ground like Naruto throwing the Rasenshuriken? Instead of creating such a shock wave, he jumped towards the Chibaku Tensei to hit it directly with the sword. We can only assume which effect Madara's PS would have. I mean it has the same size and swords and Madara said it can crush all things in this universe with one strike. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his power, but this is limited to the Rinnegan. Sasuke has already Indra's Chakra flowing through his body and the Susanoo. When he activated his Susanoo, it had the same appearance as always until it get into its perfect form. It resembles Indra's form but has still differences, as it has more horns and different teeth.

Sasuke's imperfect legged Susanoo was shown to cut through a tendril which was multiple times bigger than Susanoo itself. So what the PS could cut when jumping directly towards the target? Madara's PS never directly stroke the mountains. It swung its sword, crushed the meteorite and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscale and cut two mountains, while that panel showed how this shock wave continued to travel. Against Hashirama we saw the same. The shock wave traveled through the landscape and cut mountain ranges. The first mountain range and the mountains behind, never shown to stop and cut anything on the panel. Swinging its sword to slice up distant mountain ranges an jumping towards the target and cutting through it are two different things.

Just lack to see the difference between Sasuke's and Madara's Susanoo. The same construct of Chakra, with the same size and blades. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his Rinnegan and Naruto his Senjutsu. The PS is the power of the EMS and Indra's Chakra was already flowing through him.

Theoretically, Madara's PS should also destroy the Shinsuusenju. If one swing of the blade slices mountain ranges, two swords could cut it into pieces.

yet madara shot about 15 swords with tbbs and still could not touch SS main body yet his ps = sasuke? im not understanding i geuss if nagato was their instead of pain he could have made ct that size huh?

 

[Tenasa Uchiha]

Sasu takes this man

 

[KidGamer65]

Against Hashirama, Madara's PS swung its sword once and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscape and sliced a mountain range. Why didn't Sasuke do the same from the ground like Naruto throwing the Rasenshuriken? Instead of creating such a shock wave, he jumped towards the Chibaku Tensei to hit it directly with the sword. We can only assume which effect Madara's PS would have.

Why are you comparing

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distance from the ground to the Meteors with

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distance? Not comparable in the slightest, Sasuke jumped because whatever shockwave he could throw isn't going to reach, nor would it cut it into that many pieces.

No, its clear that Madara's PS would have a much weaker effect.

I mean it has the same size and swords and Madara said it can crush all things in this universe with one strike. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his power, but this is limited to the Rinnegan. Sasuke has already Indra's Chakra flowing through his body and the Susanoo. When he activated his Susanoo, it had the same appearance as always until it get into its perfect form. It resembles Indra's form but has still differences, as it has more horns and different teeth.

-Irrelevant.

-Irrelevant. Why would you even mention Madara's hype baffles me.

Lol, wrong. Hagoromo's power buffed his Chidori to the point where it could bisect Juubi Jin Madara, and it increased his physical abilities (speed is one of them) it being limited to Rinnegan is wrong.

Sasuke's imperfect legged Susanoo was shown to cut through a tendril which was multiple times bigger than Susanoo itself. So what the PS could cut when jumping directly towards the target? Madara's PS never directly stroke the mountains. It swung its sword, crushed the meteorite and created a shock wave which traveled across the landscale and cut two mountains, while that panel showed how this shock wave continued to travel. Against Hashirama we saw the same. The shock wave traveled through the landscape and cut mountain ranges. The first mountain range and the mountains behind, never shown to stop and cut anything on the panel. Swinging its sword to slice up distant mountain ranges an jumping towards the target and cutting through it are two different things.

Doesn't mean that you can say the difference in actually hitting it would be as great as a difference between cutting 2 Mountains and cutting 2 rocks that are larger than multiple Mountain Ranges. Not at all.

Just lack to see the difference between Sasuke's and Madara's Susanoo. The same construct of Chakra, with the same size and blades. Hagoromo gave Sasuke his Rinnegan and Naruto his Senjutsu. The PS is the power of the EMS and Indra's Chakra was already flowing through him.

You've said this already, and none of it changes the fact that Sasuke's PS is shown to be stronger than Madara's. PS originating from EMS means nothing at all. What I'm basically seeing you claim here is EMS Sasuke=EMS Madara=Indra, which is a load of crap.

Theoretically, Madara's PS should also destroy the Shinsuusenju. If one swing of the blade slices mountain ranges, two swords could cut it into pieces.

Lol, that wank. 2 Mountains is NOT a Mountain Range. That is one thing you need to understand. Cutting 2 Mountains doesn't mean that Shinsuusenju (Much larger than 2 Mountains) is going be cut into pieces, how you even arrived at this conclusion baffles me, cause it makes zero sense.

 

[King Of Pop]

I remember before when sasuke fans used to bring up his Ps power and pple always denied it saying we shouldn't give it madaras Ps feats that madara is on another level bla bla, now reverse is the case, some peeps wanna give madara ps sasuke Ps feats hehehe...

 

[End of Days]

Well lets see...Madara cut 2 Mountains, and Sasuke cut 2 rocks much bigger than Mountain Ranges, and like Genii stated, its been amped by Hagoromo's power.

Madara covered an entire mountain range with one sword while the other sword was restrained by hashirama, sasuke had both his swords free

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I have no reason to belive that if madara was put in sasuke's place he wouldnt be able to do the same thing, his sword would cut through rocks just as easily, they are made of the same material as the moutains

Yeah, depending on how the blade is swung and how fast it is swung. Sasuke's Susanoo swung its blade so fast that it cut through Mountain Range dwarfing rocks multiple times, and this was at the instant Naruto's Bijuu Dama exploded. If its swung too fast for the statue to catch, the whole endeavor is moot.

implying that tbbfrs and susanoo both reached their respective rocks at the same time

tbbfrs'd speed is restricted to how fast chibaku tensei's gravity can suck it towards itself, whereas susanoo can fly

susanoo obviously reached earlier and did the job, the panel shows the end result

If its also not strong enough, it won't be able to catch it.

the question of lack of power doesnt arise as mokuton hands dwarf susanoo hands, of course it will be more powerful than them

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If it tries to restrain Susanoo before it attacks, it simply jumps away from it and chops it in half from the back.

the hands are everywhere, even at the back and they can extend, there is no running away, not to mention it would get caught before it manages to circle SS

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[enditallsin]

Anyone comparing madara's susanoo to sasuke's.

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that rubble is the size of an entire mountain range. SOMEONE PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS COMPARISON

I can justify it, Madara's PS and sasukes PS weren't on the same situation, if madaras PS was in that situation it could have destroyed CT as well,sasuke's PS just got more a chance to shine that's all, now 1 slash from madara's PS with 1 slash destroyed the remnants of 2 meteors, bisected 2 mountains and destroyed a incredible potion of the land in front of him, sasuke's PS with MULTIPLE slashes destroyed two CT (with multiple), you probably couldn't even begin to imagine how much destruction multiple slashes from madara's PS is capable of, sasuke's PS just got more of a chance to shine(like I said before), Madara's PS didn't have no challenges (except for hashirama's wood golem which we seen PS slash at and it still couldn't destroy it.

 

[Chīkara]

CHILD PLEASE

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(Thanks to sologod for this 1)

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1 slash is enough to obliterate shinshusenjuu 100 times.​

 

[Strict]

Lol, that wank. 2 Mountains is NOT a Mountain Range. That is one thing you need to understand. Cutting 2 Mountains doesn't mean that Shinsuusenju (Much larger than 2 Mountains) is going be cut into pieces, how you even arrived at this conclusion baffles me, cause it makes zero sense.

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Looks like one slash cuts a mountain range, not just two mountains. You see the mountain range in the first row being sliced and the shockwave traveling to the second row; in the left side of that scan you see the shock wave traveling through several mountain ranges without stopping [

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] and in a 180 degrees. That was just one swing. So what would be if Madara would take two swords and go on rampage, jump right through the Chibaku Tensei with its swords ahead which are said to crush all creation?

2 mountains right, let's not get ahead of ourselves badass. This Susanoo can cut mountain ranges in a 180 degrees with one swing. With two swords delivering several blows, Madara's PS could reach the same range.

 

[genii96]

Anyone comparing madara's susanoo to sasuke's.

how can you deny this scan?

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that rubble is the size of an entire mountain range. SOMEONE PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS COMPARISON

i honestly dont see how that rubble is bigger than a mountain range,:|
sasuke clearly wins tho

 

[Chīkara]

Anyone comparing madara's susanoo to sasuke's.

how can you deny this scan?

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that rubble is the size of an entire mountain range. SOMEONE PLEASE JUSTIFY THIS COMPARISON

Simply Incorrect. The biggest piece of rubble is comparable to 7 time's shinshusenjuu which was alread 10 times a mountain, on could say it's nearly 70 mountains.