Sasuke's Curse of Hatred.

[natssuu]

Honestly when i started reading Naruto, I idolized Sasuke, actually still now but i hate it when some fanboys are saying that he is a god, is can kill anyone. That was just ridiculous.

What about Minato or Nagato fans? Do you hate those characters as well?

 

[Sasuk3Uchiha]

Thanks for the +Rep

As far as the personality goes, I'm willing to admit that the power-hungry facet stemmed from his desire to kill Itachi, but I think the selfishness is just a part of him. I also believe that the desire for power comes from being part of the Uchiha clan; they were constantly trying to find ways to gain power. I've always felt that the Uchiha clan has a misplaced sense of pride, so I suppose I can't blame Sasuke for that

I do, however, feel that the selfishness is something that Sasuke himself possesses. I just feel like Sasuke never grew up and matured. Naruto could just as easily have turned on everybody in the village due to their treatment of him, but he grew up and realized that there are better ways to deal with things. Sasuke has always acted like a child in the body of an adult with a sword, formulating plans to hurt people who have wronged him. Of course, he was absolutely justified in hunting Itachi, but when he discovered the truth, instead of analyzing the situation and formulating a new plan, he took his hatred for Itachi and redirected it toward Konoha. Not even just the advisors and Danzou, but the whole village, 99.9% of whom had no idea what happened and would probably have decried the atrocities against the clan. It bothers me that Sasuke just refuses to look at himself and consider who he is without Itachi. He never redefined himself after he lost his life goal of killing Itachi, so he's going to keep setting insane goals for himself until he gets killed or until Naruto beats some sense into him. He's refused his whole life to open his vision and realize that there are people around him who care for him and want to see him happy, not that this is particularly important; it just shows his complete disregard for others.

It honestly doesn't bother me that he took Itachi's eyes; Itachi probably expected that, and I actually feel that Sasuke was refreshingly mature when he declined Tobi's offer the first time. It bothered me that he turned his sights on exactly the place Itachi wanted to protect above all else (except him); I felt like he may as well have spit in Itachi's face. I felt that, for someone who was so infuriated by Itachi's circumstances, he couldn't have picked something more appropriate to mock Itachi's memory.

I like Itachi, and it just made me so FREAKING MAD when Sasuke decided to try and destroy Konoha.

In terms of the Uchiha's misplaced sense of pride that has resulted in the history of their clan being one that would do anything to gain power - that's a refreshing way of looking at things, I'd never thought about it that way, so thanks for that new perspective. In this case, you're right - Sasuke can't be blamed for that.

While dealing with the selfish aspect of his character, there are important differences between his situation and Naruto's, although the main aspect is that they were both alone. However, Sasuke had formed bonds with his clan prior to its annihilation; Naruto, in contrast, had no recollection of who is parents were until Part II of the story. Also, Naruto could've turned to revenge, yes - but it's not as if he was given that goal in life while he was still a child; it was something he would've had to conclude on his own. On the other hand, Sasuke was practically given the task of avenging his clan, or so he thought, by Itachi; and given those circumstances, what better way was there of handling things than revenge? I highly doubt forgetting about the ordeal and trying to live in peace was his style, especially given Madara's comment that "He's the real thing. A true avenger."

After discovering the truth about Itachi, in my opinion, I believe that the hatred he had once held for his brother dissipated, but a new hatred was born for his former village; after all - any hatred for his brother should no longer exist given that he was merely being manipulated by the higher-ups in Konoha, who are truly responsible for the misery he's endured. In contrast, the higher-ups, who Sasuke weren't familiar with bred a new, darker, more corrupt hatred within him. I'm a staunch fan of Sasuke's, but I'll be honest - I was also upset, actually sad with his choice to crush Konoha, after hearing Itachi's tragic legacy. However, the more I thought about it, the more logical the choice seemed (at least from Sasuke's point of view) Think of it this way - after living a life of nothing but revenge and hatred up until Itachi's death, do you really think it'd be easy, albeit possible for Sasuke to simply overlook the fact that his brother's death was caused by the very village he would've risked his life to protect (though he is to blame for it as well)? Revenge has always been the path he's chosen, so it's not surprising he'd decide to do something so drastic, and it only serves as a reminder of how deeply he's fallen into darkness, seeing as he's willing to destroy the innocent with the guilty.

Also, I'm sure that he's realized by now that he's had people who cared for him, and want only for him to be happy (i.e. Sakura's pleading/confession of love to keep him from leaving in Part I, Naruto's continuous attempts to steer him off the path of hatred, etc.); however, his feelings for his now deceased clan (mostly) and all the things that could've been if they were still around, apparently transcend the feelings of his former teammates, and village. Remember, upon his 'reunion' with Kakashi and Sakura (before Naruto arrived), when Kakashi made another attempt to convince Sasuke to get off the path of revenge, Sasuke told him, "My father, and mother! My whole clan! Bring them back to me, and I'd stop!" As I said before though, it's just my opinion.

 

[Wildtangent]

I agree and have thought some of the same things. I'm glad you posted this.

 

[Sasuk3Uchiha]

I agree and have thought some of the same things. I'm glad you posted this.

Thanks For Your Support, It's Greatly Appreciated.

 

[Hexuze]

Hey...
China called, they want their wall back.

 

[Sasuk3Uchiha]

nice tread i can understand ur point, and it's wierd i can understand sasuke disission's.. and the way he is

Thanks For The Support; Yeah, once you take things into perspective, you begin to understand the motives behind his character, somewhat.

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

This is a topic that I've been wanting to address for some time now; it has actually been one of the primary reasons I joined this forum, and after going through multiple threads and finding an almost overwhelming amount of people who seem to support this view, I'm representing the opposing viewpoint, of course, with rational information supporting my perspective. As per my last thread, this is merely my opinion; however, I am hoping that it will give those who read it a broader context to rely on when thinking on this matter. Feel free to leave your opinions, comments, or rebuttals; I'll do my best to answer them.

Based on most of the threads I've gone through that have dealt with or made reference to Sasuke's character, there's an alarming amount of users on the forum who seem to despise his character, his abilities, everything there is about him, and for the life of me, I can't understand why; It's as if most people have only seen the last few episodes he's been in and automatically came to the conclusion that they hate him. If you've watched every episode from Part I to Part II, then there is little reason to feel such malice for Sasuke's character; This is not to say that you should be inclined to say he's your favorite either, but at the very least, some effort should be put in to understand the his overall situation. Sasuke's current dark and corrupt personality didn't just occur one day; it's been a gradual process, and I think most of the 'haters' have forgotten that.

Path to Hatred - Step 1: Annihilation of the Uchiha Clan
A child of less than 10 years (Age 7), Sasuke's entire family was wiped out, by his seemingly loving brother, Itachi, who proceeded to tell Sasuke that his kindness was nothing but an illusion to test him, that he wiped out the clan simply to 'test his abilities', and that Sasuke was soo weak that he wasn't even worth killing. "You've always wanted to surpass me. That's why I'm going to let you live … if you wish to kill me, then hate me, despise me … and by all means flee, cling to your wretched life," - those very words set Sasuke on his path to hatred, and the remainder of Sasuke's time spent in Konoha, even while on Team 7, was devoted to gaining enough power to kill his brother.

- At this point, I'm eager to see the show of virtual hands who would be able to experience the loss of their entire family and relatives, at the hands of their sibling, no less, who would be able to resist the urge for revenge. I'm assuming some of you may simply be stubborn and say you could resist doing so, since there's no chance of something like this happening; but the question is simply IF it were to happen, and I know that I would end up taking the same path as Sasuke; I could never go through such loss and not do anything about it.

Path to Hatred - Step 2: Acquisition of the Cursed Seal
Probably one of the most important events that led Sasuke even further down the path of hatred was the influence of Orochimaru's Cursed Seal. During the Chunin exams, after noticing how his drive for revenge seemed to have lessened (due to his time with Team 7), Orochimaru branded Sasuke with his cursed seal, which, in exchange for giving him a brief surge of power, tainted his personality, making him more vulnerable to Orochimaru's influence (mainly the power he could give him). This can be seen throughout most of Part I; while Sasuke had grown a bit closer to his team prior to his encounter with Orochimaru, once he was given the cursed seal, he slowly reverted back to his initial, cold attitude. By the end of Part I, Sasuke was challenging his own teammates (Naruto) and fighting to win, above all else (Using Chidori against Naruto with the intent of killing him).

- Now, everyone knows already that the Cursed Seal played a role in developing Sasuke's hatred, but I added this to indicate the fact that his path of hatred developed gradually. Keep in mind that he was at one point, close with Team 7, and would've sacrificed himself to safe his teammates (i.e. Taking Haku's attack that was meant for Naruto); This can also be seen during his fight against Killer Bee in Part II - While in the midst of figuring out a way to deal with Killer Bee once he'd transformed, Sasuke recalled his current teammates' sacrifices (i.e. Jugo reverting back to his child state in exchange for saving Sasuke's life | Karin allowing him to use her chakra | Suigetsu buying them enough time to escape), and for a moment he briefly remembered Team 7, showing that while still on his dark path, he still showed traces of care for his team, enough in fact, that he chose to use Amaterasu via his MS, in spite of the fatal risk it posed to his eyesight.

Path to Hatred - Step 3: Naruto's Growth & Sasuke's Defeat By Itachi
Even as he was growing more and more distant from his Team, Sasuke was satisfied with his growth in Part I ... until Naruto begun showing some rather extreme levels of growth, succeeding in tasks and performing feats Sasuke struggled/failed to accomplish (i.e. defeating Gaara, who Sasuke couldn't bring down even after using Chidori 3 times; Defeating Aoi of the Rain Village by breaking his Sword of the Thunder God with Rasengan, whereas Sasuke's Chidori only managed to crack it, etc.) - These shortcomings, among many others, only served as a constant reminder that Sasuke still wasn't strong enough, driving him to seek more power by relying more and more on the Cursed Seal. Itachi's brief return to the village was the final straw. Despite his best efforts, and his use of Chidori, Sasuke was thrashed, both Physically and Mentally (Via Tsukuyomi) by his brother, who then proceeded to tell him "You're still too weak, you don't have enough hate. And you know something? You never will." [Via English Dubbed Version] Upon realizing that Itachi was still leaps ahead of him, coupled with his recent failures that Naruto managed to succeed in, ultimately led Sasuke to defect from Konoha at the end of Part I, desperate to gain power, and believing Orochimaru to be the only one capable of granting him this wish.

- At this point, I'm hoping some of the 'haters' have begun to see that these events are slowly but surely driving Sasuke further and further down the path of Hatred; experiencing such events would only leave the option of gaining power no matter the price, after considering his circumstances; I gladly welcome any rebuttals in this section.

Path to Hatred - Final Step: Revelation
Two years after his defection from Konoha, and a battle of epic proportions with Itachi, resulting in the latter's death and the removal of Orochimaru's influence from the former, Sasuke learned the truth of Itachi's legacy from Tobi/Madara, and realized that Itachi had in fact, always been the kind, loving brother he remembered; Itachi's true disposition, which was one of a pacifist (Despises conflict and war), due to witnessing the traumatic experience of war at a young age, was taken advantage of by the higher-ups of Konoha, who knew that his brother would do anything to prevent such conflict from arising in the Leaf Village, even if it meant wiping out his entire clan. However, even with such a strong loyalty to his village, Itachi had an even stronger bond with his brother; So strong in fact, that he couldn't bring himself to kill him - He valued Sasuke's life above the entire Leaf Village, and was willing to live a lie, and die in disgrace, fooling his younger brother to the very end - all in order to make Sasuke stronger, and to bring a sense of honor to the clan in the eyes of the Leaf Village, as Sasuke would be seen as having killed the one who slew the entire Uchiha clan. It is this truth, this knowledge, that corrupts him more than his use of the cursed seal in its second stage; The very village that he once would've given his life to protect, was the same one pulling the strings that led to the demise of his clan and the loss of his brother, who did everything he could to ensure that Sasuke became stronger, even at the cost of love, respect, and ultimately, his life.

- It is for this reason, that his current dark and corrupt mindset is fully justifiable, even under extreme circumstances (i.e. Piercing Karin in order to fatally wound Danzo, despite her being his teammate | Attempting to kill Sakura twice, despite her showing obvious hesitance in attacking him | Feeling no guilt, shame, or remorse for his actions, etc.) Sasuke's hatred is a result of his circumstances, and I happily await rebuttals in this section. I'm quite certain that there is a scarce supply of people who can put themselves in the same position and say "I wouldn't have turned out like Sasuke has." Well, I expect a few stubborn replies, but in your hardest of hearts, most, if not everyone reading this is aware that they would probably end up doing the same things, although perhaps not to such an extreme extent (i.e. Piercing Karin was harsh, even for Sasuke), and I'll admit, I was disappointed when I saw this. However, when taking in to context everything that he's experienced, once you put yourself in Sasuke's sandals, it's quite difficult to imagine how things could've played out differently from what has already occurred.

I've also noticed a few rather weak arguments on various threats for some people's hatred of his character, such as (but not limited to):

1. "He just spams his MS"
- Since Sasuke awakened his MS, in the last several battles he's been involved in (i.e. Killer Bee, Raikage, Danzo), his use of the MS was essential to him surviving the battle. As I'm sure most of you have seen, using the Sharingan against Killer Bee still wasn't enough to read all of his movements, and it was only through the use of Amaterasu (Via MS) that Sasuke was able to seize control of the battle. The same principal applies to his other battles as well; without the MS, he most certainly would've been killed. Furthermore, since when is using a technique you've been granted spamming? If that's the case, then everyone in the entire series should be held accountable for doing so.

2. "He's a noob"
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I checked, a noob implies that you're a novice with no skill that succeeds only though sheer luck and no effort. Apparently, those who express this view haven't seen any of Sasuke's battles, from Part I to Part II. Sasuke has always been an intelligent character, and has obtained many of his victories through his smart strategizing (i.e. Deidera, Danzo, Etc.) In terms of skill, this argument isn't even valid anymore - Even people who don't like his character have admitted that he's a genius in that field, and this has been shown in Part II quite frequently, in:

1. Ninja tools
(wire strings & Rigged Shuriken)

2. Proficiency in advanced Fire Techniques
(Dragon Flame Jutsu, etc.)

3. Versatility
(Sasuke has created Numerous Techniques all based on one technique Kakashi taught him)

4. Nature Transformation
(Lightning [Kirin] & His Own Unique Blaze Element [Manipulation of Amaterasu])

3. "He's an A**hole, just look at what he did to Karin"
Call him what you like, but that display only serves to show just how much Sasuke has fallen in his Curse of hatred; His goal of destroying Konoha takes precedence over all else, and everything at this point is a means to an end. In that situation, Karin had served her usefulness, and with the added fact that he was soo close to killing Danzo, who was also responsible for Itachi's sacrifice, Sasuke wouldn't think twice about sacrificing his teammates; especially since he'd already abandoned Jugo and Suigetsu. His hatred is the sole thing driving him, and as most of you have or should have already watched/read, by the time he faced Kakashi, His hatred was soo strong that he managed to achieve his Susanoo's Final form before nearly going blind from his overuse of the MS.

I apologize in advance for such a long thread, but this is a significant topic that I feel should be expanded upon as much as possible, and so I did. Most importantly, as I previously mentioned, it's simply one person's opinion, with the bottom line being if you take the time to put things into context with Sasuke's character, and truly try to imagine yourself in his position, you will find it a lot harder to despise his character and a lot easier to empathize with it instead. On the other hand, if you choose to remain stubborn, you with hate what he has become without a significant reason, and in my book, to hate without reason is impractical.

Wow bro good thread, it's about time someone made one clearing all this up!
+rep

 

[Sasuk3Uchiha]

Wow bro good thread, it's about time someone made one clearing all this up!
+rep

Thanks For The Support & +Rep, Dude.

 

[RAMKAD]

Not every body will like your fav character . I think sasuke is not likeable because he is presently evil. His actions are becoming more stupid. And one sided on idealizism.

 

[Sophie Ezra]

This is a topic that I've been wanting to address for some time now; it has actually been one of the primary reasons I joined this forum, and after going through multiple threads and finding an almost overwhelming amount of people who seem to support this view, I'm representing the opposing viewpoint, of course, with rational information supporting my perspective. As per my last thread, this is merely my opinion; however, I am hoping that it will give those who read it a broader context to rely on when thinking on this matter. Feel free to leave your opinions, comments, or rebuttals; I'll do my best to answer them.

Based on most of the threads I've gone through that have dealt with or made reference to Sasuke's character, there's an alarming amount of users on the forum who seem to despise his character, his abilities, everything there is about him, and for the life of me, I can't understand why; It's as if most people have only seen the last few episodes he's been in and automatically came to the conclusion that they hate him. If you've watched every episode from Part I to Part II, then there is little reason to feel such malice for Sasuke's character; This is not to say that you should be inclined to say he's your favorite either, but at the very least, some effort should be put in to understand the his overall situation. Sasuke's current dark and corrupt personality didn't just occur one day; it's been a gradual process, and I think most of the 'haters' have forgotten that.

Path to Hatred - Step 1: Annihilation of the Uchiha Clan
A child of less than 10 years (Age 7), Sasuke's entire family was wiped out, by his seemingly loving brother, Itachi, who proceeded to tell Sasuke that his kindness was nothing but an illusion to test him, that he wiped out the clan simply to 'test his abilities', and that Sasuke was soo weak that he wasn't even worth killing. "You've always wanted to surpass me. That's why I'm going to let you live … if you wish to kill me, then hate me, despise me … and by all means flee, cling to your wretched life," - those very words set Sasuke on his path to hatred, and the remainder of Sasuke's time spent in Konoha, even while on Team 7, was devoted to gaining enough power to kill his brother.

- At this point, I'm eager to see the show of virtual hands who would be able to experience the loss of their entire family and relatives, at the hands of their sibling, no less, who would be able to resist the urge for revenge. I'm assuming some of you may simply be stubborn and say you could resist doing so, since there's no chance of something like this happening; but the question is simply IF it were to happen, and I know that I would end up taking the same path as Sasuke; I could never go through such loss and not do anything about it.

Path to Hatred - Step 2: Acquisition of the Cursed Seal
Probably one of the most important events that led Sasuke even further down the path of hatred was the influence of Orochimaru's Cursed Seal. During the Chunin exams, after noticing how his drive for revenge seemed to have lessened (due to his time with Team 7), Orochimaru branded Sasuke with his cursed seal, which, in exchange for giving him a brief surge of power, tainted his personality, making him more vulnerable to Orochimaru's influence (mainly the power he could give him). This can be seen throughout most of Part I; while Sasuke had grown a bit closer to his team prior to his encounter with Orochimaru, once he was given the cursed seal, he slowly reverted back to his initial, cold attitude. By the end of Part I, Sasuke was challenging his own teammates (Naruto) and fighting to win, above all else (Using Chidori against Naruto with the intent of killing him).

- Now, everyone knows already that the Cursed Seal played a role in developing Sasuke's hatred, but I added this to indicate the fact that his path of hatred developed gradually. Keep in mind that he was at one point, close with Team 7, and would've sacrificed himself to safe his teammates (i.e. Taking Haku's attack that was meant for Naruto); This can also be seen during his fight against Killer Bee in Part II - While in the midst of figuring out a way to deal with Killer Bee once he'd transformed, Sasuke recalled his current teammates' sacrifices (i.e. Jugo reverting back to his child state in exchange for saving Sasuke's life | Karin allowing him to use her chakra | Suigetsu buying them enough time to escape), and for a moment he briefly remembered Team 7, showing that while still on his dark path, he still showed traces of care for his team, enough in fact, that he chose to use Amaterasu via his MS, in spite of the fatal risk it posed to his eyesight.

Path to Hatred - Step 3: Naruto's Growth & Sasuke's Defeat By Itachi
Even as he was growing more and more distant from his Team, Sasuke was satisfied with his growth in Part I ... until Naruto begun showing some rather extreme levels of growth, succeeding in tasks and performing feats Sasuke struggled/failed to accomplish (i.e. defeating Gaara, who Sasuke couldn't bring down even after using Chidori 3 times; Defeating Aoi of the Rain Village by breaking his Sword of the Thunder God with Rasengan, whereas Sasuke's Chidori only managed to crack it, etc.) - These shortcomings, among many others, only served as a constant reminder that Sasuke still wasn't strong enough, driving him to seek more power by relying more and more on the Cursed Seal. Itachi's brief return to the village was the final straw. Despite his best efforts, and his use of Chidori, Sasuke was thrashed, both Physically and Mentally (Via Tsukuyomi) by his brother, who then proceeded to tell him "You're still too weak, you don't have enough hate. And you know something? You never will." [Via English Dubbed Version] Upon realizing that Itachi was still leaps ahead of him, coupled with his recent failures that Naruto managed to succeed in, ultimately led Sasuke to defect from Konoha at the end of Part I, desperate to gain power, and believing Orochimaru to be the only one capable of granting him this wish.

- At this point, I'm hoping some of the 'haters' have begun to see that these events are slowly but surely driving Sasuke further and further down the path of Hatred; experiencing such events would only leave the option of gaining power no matter the price, after considering his circumstances; I gladly welcome any rebuttals in this section.

Path to Hatred - Final Step: Revelation
Two years after his defection from Konoha, and a battle of epic proportions with Itachi, resulting in the latter's death and the removal of Orochimaru's influence from the former, Sasuke learned the truth of Itachi's legacy from Tobi/Madara, and realized that Itachi had in fact, always been the kind, loving brother he remembered; Itachi's true disposition, which was one of a pacifist (Despises conflict and war), due to witnessing the traumatic experience of war at a young age, was taken advantage of by the higher-ups of Konoha, who knew that his brother would do anything to prevent such conflict from arising in the Leaf Village, even if it meant wiping out his entire clan. However, even with such a strong loyalty to his village, Itachi had an even stronger bond with his brother; So strong in fact, that he couldn't bring himself to kill him - He valued Sasuke's life above the entire Leaf Village, and was willing to live a lie, and die in disgrace, fooling his younger brother to the very end - all in order to make Sasuke stronger, and to bring a sense of honor to the clan in the eyes of the Leaf Village, as Sasuke would be seen as having killed the one who slew the entire Uchiha clan. It is this truth, this knowledge, that corrupts him more than his use of the cursed seal in its second stage; The very village that he once would've given his life to protect, was the same one pulling the strings that led to the demise of his clan and the loss of his brother, who did everything he could to ensure that Sasuke became stronger, even at the cost of love, respect, and ultimately, his life.

- It is for this reason, that his current dark and corrupt mindset is fully justifiable, even under extreme circumstances (i.e. Piercing Karin in order to fatally wound Danzo, despite her being his teammate | Attempting to kill Sakura twice, despite her showing obvious hesitance in attacking him | Feeling no guilt, shame, or remorse for his actions, etc.) Sasuke's hatred is a result of his circumstances, and I happily await rebuttals in this section. I'm quite certain that there is a scarce supply of people who can put themselves in the same position and say "I wouldn't have turned out like Sasuke has." Well, I expect a few stubborn replies, but in your hardest of hearts, most, if not everyone reading this is aware that they would probably end up doing the same things, although perhaps not to such an extreme extent (i.e. Piercing Karin was harsh, even for Sasuke), and I'll admit, I was disappointed when I saw this. However, when taking in to context everything that he's experienced, once you put yourself in Sasuke's sandals, it's quite difficult to imagine how things could've played out differently from what has already occurred.

I've also noticed a few rather weak arguments on various threats for some people's hatred of his character, such as (but not limited to):

1. "He just spams his MS"
- Since Sasuke awakened his MS, in the last several battles he's been involved in (i.e. Killer Bee, Raikage, Danzo), his use of the MS was essential to him surviving the battle. As I'm sure most of you have seen, using the Sharingan against Killer Bee still wasn't enough to read all of his movements, and it was only through the use of Amaterasu (Via MS) that Sasuke was able to seize control of the battle. The same principal applies to his other battles as well; without the MS, he most certainly would've been killed. Furthermore, since when is using a technique you've been granted spamming? If that's the case, then everyone in the entire series should be held accountable for doing so.

2. "He's a noob"
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I checked, a noob implies that you're a novice with no skill that succeeds only though sheer luck and no effort. Apparently, those who express this view haven't seen any of Sasuke's battles, from Part I to Part II. Sasuke has always been an intelligent character, and has obtained many of his victories through his smart strategizing (i.e. Deidera, Danzo, Etc.) In terms of skill, this argument isn't even valid anymore - Even people who don't like his character have admitted that he's a genius in that field, and this has been shown in Part II quite frequently, in:

1. Ninja tools
(wire strings & Rigged Shuriken)

2. Proficiency in advanced Fire Techniques
(Dragon Flame Jutsu, etc.)

3. Versatility
(Sasuke has created Numerous Techniques all based on one technique Kakashi taught him)

4. Nature Transformation
(Lightning [Kirin] & His Own Unique Blaze Element [Manipulation of Amaterasu])

3. "He's an A**hole, just look at what he did to Karin"
Call him what you like, but that display only serves to show just how much Sasuke has fallen in his Curse of hatred; His goal of destroying Konoha takes precedence over all else, and everything at this point is a means to an end. In that situation, Karin had served her usefulness, and with the added fact that he was soo close to killing Danzo, who was also responsible for Itachi's sacrifice, Sasuke wouldn't think twice about sacrificing his teammates; especially since he'd already abandoned Jugo and Suigetsu. His hatred is the sole thing driving him, and as most of you have or should have already watched/read, by the time he faced Kakashi, His hatred was soo strong that he managed to achieve his Susanoo's Final form before nearly going blind from his overuse of the MS.

I apologize in advance for such a long thread, but this is a significant topic that I feel should be expanded upon as much as possible, and so I did. Most importantly, as I previously mentioned, it's simply one person's opinion, with the bottom line being if you take the time to put things into context with Sasuke's character, and truly try to imagine yourself in his position, you will find it a lot harder to despise his character and a lot easier to empathize with it instead. On the other hand, if you choose to remain stubborn, you with hate what he has become without a significant reason, and in my book, to hate without reason is impractical.

Nice Thread plus Rep, even tho it seems long good Topic you have explained it in a very detailed way nicely done

 

[Sasuk3Uchiha]

Not every body will like your fav character . I think sasuke is not likeable because he is presently evil. His actions are becoming more stupid. And one sided on idealizism.

I don't expect everyone to like Sasuke's character, especially at this stage in the series.

"Based on most of the threads I've gone through that have dealt with or made reference to Sasuke's character, there's an alarming amount of users on the forum who seem to despise his character, his abilities, everything there is about him, and for the life of me, I can't understand why; It's as if most people have only seen the last few episodes he's been in and automatically came to the conclusion that they hate him. If you've watched every episode from Part I to Part II, then there is little reason to feel such malice for Sasuke's character; This is not to say that you should be inclined to say he's your favorite either, but at the very least, some effort should be put in to understand the his overall situation. Sasuke's current dark and corrupt personality didn't just occur one day; it's been a gradual process, and I think most of the 'haters' have forgotten that."

As I stated in the beginning, the purpose of this post is not to coerce anyone into liking my favorite character, but simply provide support and evidence of the fact that the Sasuke we read/watch in the manga/anime today is a result of a step-by-step process as he's gone down his path of hatred, and not an instantaneous event that occured one day. I'm well aware that there are those who have read or will read this, who will continue to dislike his character.

 

[Cryomancer Sub Zero]

It's all because of what Itachi did when he was still a kid, his plan to make Sasuke kill him and repent for what he had to do.

 

[Sasuk3Uchiha]

It's all because of what Itachi did when he was still a kid, his plan to make Sasuke kill him and repent for what he had to do.

In a certain manner of speaking, yes.

 

[Itachi Minato]

+ rep mate hope u dont turn in to a fanboy but it is imposible for me to like sasuke no matter wat u say he is arrogant and selfish especially if he realised his brother died for him and his village Also u do realise itachi wanted sasuke to be a hero by killing itachi and avenging the clan appreciate the effort but i cant like him but i would like to point out that as a child i really liked him in the flashbacks i guess i would like to see him like that again

 

[Uchicha Macho]

sasuke told karin to donot move when danzo held her because he did not want to hit her vital point.

 

[Itachi Minato]

oh yh he is so kind and caring now this guy is a fanboy from wat i have seen im his other posts

 

[Melizzle]

Everyone's personality is gradual. and btw Sasuke was an angry child and hater before the Uchiha's were slaughtered.

 

[Wildtangent]

Everyone's personality is gradual. and btw Sasuke was an angry child and hater before the Uchiha's were slaughtered.

In my opinion Sasuke was not an angry child/ hater from before the Uchiha's were slaughtered. All he wanted was to be noticed by his father as "his son" like Itachi was. He also wanted Itachi to pay attention and help train him. yes he wanted to surpass his brother/ keep up with his brother but he did not hate his father or brother. I also wouldn't consider any of that as anger. But I'm no Sasuke expert.

The reason why I believe this is from my readings in the chapter " Sasuke and his father." chapter 223.

 

[Melizzle]

In my opinion Sasuke was not an angry child/ hater from before the Uchiha's were slaughtered. All he wanted was to be noticed by his father as "his son" like Itachi was. He also wanted Itachi to pay attention and help train him. yes he wanted to surpass his brother/ keep up with his brother but he did not hate his father or brother. I also wouldn't consider any of that as anger. But I'm no Sasuke expert.

The reason why I believe this is from my readings in the chapter " Sasuke and his father." chapter 223.

He had angst because he was jealous, felt pressured to surpass Itachi, wanted to feel more noticed by his dad. Those are feelings of resentment. He was angry even then. I honestly think Sasuke will only ever be happy if he wants himself to be. He was getting there in team 7 he even said so, but he decided to go back down the path of anger because that's always been what's comfortable to him.

 

[Tartarus]

He had angst because he was jealous, felt pressured to surpass Itachi, wanted to feel more noticed by his dad. Those are feelings of resentment. He was angry even then. I honestly think Sasuke will only ever be happy if he wants himself to be. He was getting there in team 7 he even said so, but he decided to go back down the path of anger because that's always been what's comfortable to him.

most kids are like that, we've all been jealous of someone as kids. Kids get angry easily especially if you feel like you're in someone else's shadow, I don't think it's a Sasuke thing, it's just a natural thing with kids.