Sasukes character has been ruined

Kesh

Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2011
Messages
101
Reaction score
7
I think kish is giving the fans what they want, some long to see the sasuke from the past, but instead they've been watching a monster, seeing a shift in character will only bring good...great things to the story.
 

NinJaGirl99

Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2012
Messages
418
Reaction score
29
Eh Im merely giving an example of a case where a anti-hero characters redemption/change of heart/attitude was executed well.

And you know for sure Kishimoto will handle Sasuke's redemption poorly? I understand you have your doubts, but you may just be wrong. As a matter of fact I'm counting on it.
 

Kuromori

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Messages
568
Reaction score
8
There is some deep hatred and turmoil going on with Sasuke...I think that something a lot greater than this will have to happen for Sasuke to become one of the good guys again.
 

Sasuke Uzumaki

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
May 13, 2008
Messages
2,391
Reaction score
272
When will people face the truth here...

Sasuke is neither good nor bad... he does what is logical to him according to what he lived and experienced. He looks bad in the eyes of shinobi who accept all the rules imposed of them, some of which are not really those of "good people".

Because if Sasuke is considered bad, we should also consider the second and third to be bad: they just had political power to create an excuse to erradicate a clan. Why turn them into the police force, instead of making them be any other thing where they DID NOT have to use their powers?
 

Creekdawg45

Member
Joined
Feb 11, 2012
Messages
72
Reaction score
3
Sasukes character will now inexorably turn to sht whatever resolve he decides in the end because of the farce that has been revealed as the "curse" of the Uchiha clan. I know this is a shonen manga aimed at young/teenage males but this chapter felt like reading something out of a childrens fairy tale.

If Sasuke continues with his current resolve, fights Naruto and is (inevitably) redeemed, its obvious how it will turn out now, Im calling it: Naruto (and others) will be the new "love" and his bond with Naruto will be the feelings bs Tobirama was on about. If he has a change of heart right now (somewhat unlikely but hey this is Kishimoto, the number 1 asspuller mangaka) it will probably also be because of some retarded sht like realizing the Uchiha were all about love all along etc.

Sasuke is going to be a joke of an anti-hero in the end of this manga if he is redeemed (which is almost a given given the themes/plot of the manga).


I think the way things are going makes you mad because you want Sasuke to be this evil killing machine with a true motive...

This "anger fueled by love" is a way better turn in the story than where it was going...I really think Kishi looks at these forums, because if he has seen what I have seen in this past few weeks, he would say you mutha****as don't get the point at all...

Naruto has always been about friendship and family...hell most of the more popular manga's are...at the end of the day, Sasuke fell right into character with this, but in his own way...

Think about everyone he has killed...each one of them has ACTUALLY been for the GOOD of Konoha...Deidara was a villian, Itachi was a traitor (not really, but his death would bring closure to the Uchiha massacre), Orochimaru tried to destroy Konoha (brought him back, but I bet you he kills him again), Kabuto (with Itachi) was fighting everyone with Edos and they stopped it, and Danzo was power hungry, backstabbing cancer...

If you want a real life visually of Sasuke...If Naruto is John Cena, Sasuke is Stone Cold...he his a great anti-hero...but hate won't win this war...
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 15, 2011
Messages
292
Reaction score
24
Sasukes character will now inexorably turn to sht whatever resolve he decides in the end because of the farce that has been revealed as the "curse" of the Uchiha clan. I know this is a shonen manga aimed at young/teenage males but this chapter felt like reading something out of a childrens fairy tale.

If Sasuke continues with his current resolve, fights Naruto and is (inevitably) redeemed, its obvious how it will turn out now, Im calling it: Naruto (and others) will be the new "love" and his bond with Naruto will be the feelings bs Tobirama was on about. If he has a change of heart right now (somewhat unlikely but hey this is Kishimoto, the number 1 asspuller mangaka) it will probably also be because of some retarded sht like realizing the Uchiha were all about love all along etc.

Sasuke is going to be a joke of an anti-hero in the end of this manga if he is redeemed (which is almost a given given the themes/plot of the manga).

...The "Curse" has been around for a while now, you know. It wasn't suddenly introduced in this chapter; it was merely expanded upon.

Someone made a post last week about how the manga has turned to sht and instead of the normal posters who were like then don't read it blah blah, I semi-agreed with him and I definitely am going to take the same stance with you.

First and foremost as Crimson Trickster said the curse wasn't introduced in this chapter and I just want to add unto this. Since the beginning of Naruto has this "undefined" curse been going on. Everytime Naruto and Sasuke fought, Sasuke would always say that Naruto did not know what it was like to lose "those bonds/feelings/relationships (love)."
This chapter showed us how an Uchiha was able to have a Hokage agree to his counter-demands and how his (Itachi's) reasoning was that of a Hokage at a young age. Obito who probably had more "Will of Fire" and/or Naruto qualities pre-death/Madara then any other character ever was still the same Obito until he saw the one he loved killed. Which leads me to my semi-agreeing with you.

Semi because I think (and I think as past chapters have kind of hinted at...) Kishi has now destroyed AKA changed the guidelines to all that was great and untouched (as with the DDCS) but for the sake of going on forever...the
anti-hero is and always was FOR THE MOST PART, the Uchiha Clan, but I don't think it will end up being Sasuke, rather Obito who as I stated above (recent chapters) sick of Madara and will end up being the real anti-hero. Sasuke will, as usual, just go do whatever he is feeling strongest with at the moment which without going into millions of details, end up fighting Naruto as he has always wanted to REALLY fight him and will end up dying in an epic battle.

P.S. - Adding in Eugenics....worst Kishi move ever.
 

EPICMenma

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 2, 2012
Messages
3,088
Reaction score
301
No. His Character lack of see truthful.
Plus His Character is Avenger.
Case Closed.
 

EliteRamenNinja

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Dec 20, 2012
Messages
4,152
Reaction score
952
Sasuke's character was already ruined since Kishi decided to let him act 'badass'.... Sasuke isn't the type for acting like a boss. Kishi made a mistake in that. Sasuke was cool in part 1, but part 2 it went downhill fast!
 

6PathsofKami

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Mar 2, 2012
Messages
2,435
Reaction score
86
Yes but before the "curse" thing was about power, this lovey dovey stuff which is new is the problem.

It's still about power. The only way the Uchiha can gain more power is by losing a loved one and that's why they are cursed.
 

Zelyix

Member
Joined
Nov 5, 2012
Messages
96
Reaction score
3
The Uchiha have lived under the "Cure of Hatred" since the Sage's sons. It was just in the latest chapter that what this cures was explained. We all though that the curse was just hatred from losing something dear too them, but it was driven by love from another person. This is also the source of the Uchiha's power and we have seen that in Madara,Obito,Sasuke and Itachi.

This is why I have always been a Sasuke fan, he acted out of love, which I have said a billion times to my friends but no one wanna listen... I don't think his character is ruined, I actually think that his character has been a secret all along and now he is shown!
 

samehadamist

Member
Joined
May 25, 2012
Messages
93
Reaction score
9
I think Sasuke finally wants to walk into things with his eyes open after being deceived by Itachi his entire life. I prefer this sasuke who still wants to deal with the leaf but in his own way. i.e. without the mindless rampage. I want to see him take out the village elders but spare the future generation
 

TimBone

Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2013
Messages
198
Reaction score
7
It's not like anybody is gonna stop reading over it...
 

Uchiha Samater

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Aug 29, 2012
Messages
2,037
Reaction score
305
hmm i dunno the manga i been reading has described a character who is all about hatred because he lost his loved ones

nothing suprising, but then alotta people reading some magical manga in their heads and get angry when its not their way
 

NarutoVsGoku

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
5,036
Reaction score
467
I don't think they are understanding the principle of what your saying. I understand exactly what you mean. There love is so strong it gives there progression to evil and the lust for power justifiable or something along those lines

This..... You guys don't understand the curse/love thing...

The Uchiha clan are impressionable people.. They create strong bonds of love with friends and family and when that bond is severed they become corrupted with evil intent and hatred... nd this change allows a special chakra to be released from their brains to the visual art of their brains unlocking greater power and strength (ms)

This is why in order to gain MS they'd have to kill their best friends... They would have to sever a bond with Simone they love.. or lose someone they loved.. think of the love sasuke had for itachi, obito had for rin, itachis brother like friendship with shisui and when itachi, rin and shisui died that love turned into hate and conquest for power sasuke, obito and itachi

sasuke lost itachi and wanted to get stronger to destroy the leaf higher ups.. think also of how emotional he was when before he found out about the conspiracy how bent he was on getting strong to kill itachi for the love of his clan..

obito loved rin so much that when he lost her you saw the rampage he had.. most bloodiest manga page ever.. and he was bent in destroying the ninja world and changing it to how he saw fit.. he waged war with the ninja world..

itachi lost shisui and was bent on destroying his own clan.. of course it was also part of his mission bit seeing how he wasnt to fond of his clan in the first place made that mission a lil easier to do..
 

Champ

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Dec 18, 2011
Messages
11,143
Reaction score
661
This..... You guys don't understand the curse/love thing...

The Uchiha clan are impressionable people.. They create strong bonds of love with friends and family and when that bond is severed they become corrupted with evil intent and hatred... nd this change allows a special chakra to be released from their brains to the visual art of their brains unlocking greater power and strength (ms)

This is why in order to gain MS they'd have to kill their best friends... They would have to sever a bond with Simone they love.. or lose someone they loved.. think of the love sasuke had for itachi, obito had for rin, itachis brother like friendship with shisui and when itachi, rin and shisui died that love turned into hate and conquest for power sasuke, obito and itachi

sasuke lost itachi and wanted to get stronger to destroy the leaf higher ups.. think also of how emotional he was when before he found out about the conspiracy how bent he was on getting strong to kill itachi for the love of his clan..

obito loved rin so much that when he lost her you saw the rampage he had.. most bloodiest manga page ever.. and he was bent in destroying the ninja world and changing it to how he saw fit.. he waged war with the ninja world..

itachi lost shisui and was bent on destroying his own clan.. of course it was also part of his mission bit seeing how he wasnt to fond of his clan in the first place made that mission a lil easier to do..
I agree good job
 
Top