Now this is the kind of thread that is needed, not the crap that has been going around. amazing thread, you basically covered everything. ive always found this feat to be amazing, the mere fact that one can merge all the 9 biju chakra without using the mezo in any way is something that would have been unheard off but then sasuke stepped in and then he goes beyond that to use his soosano(which is his chakra) as a vessel. what i find also interesting is that he has no experience in utilizing bijus chakra before, let alone that quantity but he was handling it like a pro.
Thread is nice but you made one mistake, Sasuke didn't do the opposite of COAT he used Yin release on Hagoromo's level, instead of shaping bijuu out of the Juubi he shaped one being out of the 9bijuu, if he had Naruto's yang he would've essentially been able to breathe life and make a living Susanoo with the power of 9bijuu
Well sort of. The Susano'o is basically a giant container, both Madara/Sasuke have used the Susano'o this way. Whether it's taking in the Kyuubi and it's chakra, or another example, Juugo's Senjutsu. The difference is, Sasuke utilized OP in this form to pull in multiple sources at once, creating something new. That's the magic of his skill.
Madara has never used PS in this manner. What you are talking about is the user's ability to turn PS into a "Garb," which would be the skill of the user to use the Iso Susanoo version. How does "garb" or "covering" work for chakra that has no form? Or Lightning? If it was similar or same then Kurama wouldn't have stated that, when it was a victim of it before as well. In fact, it was a part of it twice.
Uh, the fact that Kurama said that he's using the Susanoo as the Gedo, means he's using Outer Path. Outer Path by the way, is when Madara used the Gedo to take in the Bijuu's. Sasuke did the same thing, but with the Susano'o.
That is Outer Path. I really can't explain it any clearer.
Eh? Again, nobody is talking about him "pulling" the chakra. It is outer path. The actual skill lies in turning PS into a Mezo and creating a path link that doesn't work with PS at all. As OP is meant to be used with Mezo and Mezo only. You see no skill in this?
Please, don't. Trust me, no one here is interested in reading your typical yarns nor did they ask for them. And funny, still no scans for your claims. What a surprise.
Now this is the kind of thread that is needed, not the crap that has been going around. amazing thread, you basically covered everything. ive always found this feat to be amazing, the mere fact that one can merge all the 9 biju chakra without using the mezo in any way is something that would have been unheard off but then sasuke stepped in and then he goes beyond that to use his soosano(which is his chakra) as a vessel. what i find also interesting is that he has no experience in utilizing bijus chakra before, let alone that quantity but he was handling it like a pro.
Exactly. Sasuke has zero experience with handling Bijuu chakra. He turned his own Chakra into a Mezo; two structures that are not even remotely related or work the same way. Nothing Naruto has ever done even compares. Nothing. Kurama didn't make that comment for nothing.
Thread is nice but you made one mistake, Sasuke didn't do the opposite of COAT he used Yin release on Hagoromo's level, instead of shaping bijuu out of the Juubi he shaped one being out of the 9bijuu, if he had Naruto's yang he would've essentially been able to breathe life and make a living Susanoo with the power of 9bijuu
It is not explained as to what he did. The only thing we know for a fact (as Kurama states) is that what he did was the opposite of what the Sage did, and the Sage used COAT to create Bijuus.
Yes, obviously Sasuke's CC is superior to every other shinobi, but of course the reality of this thread is meant to downplay Naruto's CC which is beyond greater. He's able to take chakra from the bijuu and manipulate it to his liking, and is capable of taking that chakra and handing it others perfectly without fail.
No, it isn't. Not even close. Otherwise, he wouldn't get "kneaded chakra" from the Bijuus, and his own Bijuu wouldn't exalt Sasuke's CC. No offense, but this is just fan-fiction. Heck, Sakura's CC is better than Naruto's.
I adore the face as you just claimed that Naruto's CC goes well beyond the Sage. Gotta love Naruto fanboys and their ability to pen fictions.
Sasuke is a beast. One of my favorite parts of the manga is when he managed to gengutsu all the tailed beasts with a single glance. Then he pulls off a chibaku tensei smoother than a fresh jar of skippy. Dat dude is amazing!
Precisely my point. A PS isn't a Mezo; he forcefully made it into a Mezo. A Mezo is a Jubi husk; a natural empty shell of all Bijuu chakra. A PS is nothing like the Mezo. Not even close. Which is why Kurama is so impressed, as it's a monumental feat that made Kurama put him at the Sage's level.
That is a path tech; this feat isn't. Other than pulling chakra, everything else he did had nothing to do with Rinnegan. Nothing at all. It was all Sasuke and advanced CC.
Never claimed that Sasuke did pull the Bijuu Chakra through OP. This thread doesn't even cover that argument. It talks about what happened after. Mind you, OuterPath pull has never been used in a way Sasuke did. It always requires a Mezo at the other end. Which makes this feat that much more impressive.
Does the manga mention it? No. Does the manga hint it? No. Does Kurama claim it? No. In fact, he outright buries this argument into the ground: he is doing it in the exact opposite manner; COAT uses Rinnegan, Sasuke's feat didn't.
Lol at the fact that you think Sasuke can remotely control chakra without Rinnegan. Even though Sasukes power relies on Doujutsu.
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Without Doujutsu no Bijuu Powers for Sasuke. He used Rinnegan to control the chakras. Its one of his Rinnegan feats. Just like Hago also seperated them with his Rinnegan.
Exactly. Sasuke has zero experience with handling Bijuu chakra. He turned his own Chakra into a Mezo; two structures that are not even remotely related or work the same way. Nothing Naruto has ever done even compares. Nothing. Kurama didn't make that comment for nothing.
It is not explained as to what he did. The only thing we know for a fact (as Kurama states) is that what he did was the opposite of what the Sage did, and the Sage used COAT to create Bijuus.
No, it isn't. Not even close. Otherwise, he wouldn't get "kneaded chakra" from the Bijuus, and his own Bijuu wouldn't exalt Sasuke's CC. No offense, but this is just fan-fiction. Heck, Sakura's CC is better than Naruto's.
I adore the face as you just claimed that Naruto's CC goes well beyond the Sage. Gotta love Naruto fanboys and their ability to pen fictions.
Lol at the fact that you think Sasuke can remotely control chakra without Rinnegan. Even though Sasukes power relies on Doujutsu.
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Without Doujutsu no Bijuu Powers for Sasuke. He used Rinnegan to control the chakras. Its one of his Rinnegan feats. Just like Hago also seperated them with his Rinnegan.
This image has no correlation to what you are suggesting. Like, holy hell, man.
Without Rinnegan, he cannot absorb or pull out the chakra. That has nothing to do with Spatial and Physical composition of the chakra. Nor does it have anything to do with the overall CC. This isn't a Rinnegan feat at all. Put a bit of common sense in your head. I know it isn't something common, but good Lord! This is embarrassing.
Also, where are the scans of Kurama stating that Naruto's feats are anywhere near Sage's level? I believe the wait has been long enough. Time to pull that rabbit out of the hat.
Sasuke is a beast. One of my favorite parts of the manga is when he managed to gengutsu all the tailed beasts with a single glance. Then he pulls off a chibaku tensei smoother than a fresh jar of skippy. Dat dude is amazing!
