SasukeMS vs Neji

[Turson]

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i said because sasuke is showed more often than neji, people overate sasuke in respect to others there speed r equal

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Sasuke could only touch the Raikage once but either his (Raikage) last mo

According to Databook stats both Gai and Kisame have 5 at stamina, even though its clear for enyone who reads manga that Kisames chakra was several times bigger than Gais. Sorry, but Databooks stats are no proof in threads like this.

Sasuke could only touch the Raikage once but either his (Raikage) last move would have left him crippled Sasuke would have died

It was the same for Raikage - he would enp up dead or severly crippled.

Sasuke is just on whole other level than Neji, live with that.

 

[-God of War-]

Sasuke sure:|

 

[TJ0001]

sasuke wins.......it hurt alot to say that but yes sasuke wins

 

[Uzumaki Hyuga]

Really?

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Neji has never displayed speed like that.

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Really?

He is on a level of strong Kage. If it wasnt becuase Gaara, he and A would die, or A would survive severly crippled. With skills he displayed, hes easily stronger than Mei or Tsunade.

Its the contrary, Sharingan is great against Taijutsu becuase it can predict movements. Sharingan is only useless against Taijutsu when opponent is riduculously fast, too fast for Sharingan user body to keep up.

According to Databook stats both Gai and Kisame have 5 at stamina, even though its clear for enyone who reads manga that Kisames chakra was several times bigger than Gais. Sorry, but Databooks stats are no proof in threads like this.

It was the same for Raikage - he would enp up dead or severly crippled.

Sasuke is just on whole other level than Neji, live with that.

wat prove do u have u say that neji isn't on the same level with sasuke wen neji is barely shown in the series. besides he(the only one in konoha) became a jonin within that short time; so it somewat means that he has some skills that has not been revealed.
In the case of guy and Kisame , r u going to ignore gate? Databooks gives a little light on things that may b over or under rated. so should b part of my proof. I wonder wat kind of a ninja at "kage" level will need help or grace wen fighting anoda kage. dont quote me wrong, i know Sasuke is pretty strong and smtimes i respect him but making him like a sannin is overesteemation. if sasuke was rated kage, wat will Kakashi who trashed him b rated as?.. god? pls

 

[Migualon J.J.]

first there has to b an eye contact b4 tsukuyomi works, tsukuyomi which is a genjutsu(caused from alteration in a person's flow of chakra in d brain; somewat controlling the five senses) can b broken by stoping the chakra flow in d brain and then "restarting" it. Byuakugan users r definetely very good controllers of chakra, although Neji has not shown to have released himself from a genjutsu while he was still a genin(mayb bcos he was a novice in using byakugan(branch family)) but the elder from the Hyuga clanwasn't under any genjutsu wen Orochimaru attacked Konoha.

1, underlined) thanks to byakugan, neji is ALWAYS looking into sasuke´s eyes

2, bolded) seriously? you think you can just STOP YOUR BRAIN FROM WORKING AND THAN JUST RESTART IT?

wat prove do u have u say that neji isn't on the same level with sasuke wen neji is barely shown in the series. besides he(the only one in konoha) became a jonin within that short time; so it somewat means that he has some skills that has not been revealed.
In the case of guy and Kisame , r u going to ignore gate? Databooks gives a little light on things that may b over or under rated. so should b part of my proof. I wonder wat kind of a ninja at "kage" level will need help or grace wen fighting anoda kage. dont quote me wrong, i know Sasuke is pretty strong and smtimes i respect him but making him like a sannin is overesteemation. if sasuke was rated kage, wat will Kakashi who trashed him b rated as?.. god? pls

um, kakashi became jounin without any KG in the age of 13, and he became genin at the age of 5 and chuunin at the age of 6, did Neji do that? NOOO


no matter how much i HATE sasuke, i must give this to him, neji has NOTHING against Amaterasu OR Susano´o

 

[Uzumaki Hyuga]

1, underlined) thanks to byakugan, neji is ALWAYS looking into sasuke´s eyes

2, bolded) seriously? you think you can just STOP YOUR BRAIN FROM WORKING AND THAN JUST RESTART IT?

um, kakashi became jounin without any KG in the age of 13, and he became genin at the age of 5 and chuunin at the age of 6, did Neji do that? NOOO


no matter how much i HATE sasuke, i must give this to him, neji has NOTHING against Amaterasu OR Susano´o

1) it the contary, its thanks to byakugan, neji can ignore his eyes and then focus on his tenkutsu or other organs
2)basically, thats wat u do to break free of a gen jutsu except sharingan users or charkra is forcefully injected into u or pain. so i dont c the big deal for excellent chakra controllers, Hyuga
3)i wonder y others didnt attain that level during the forth's era:shrug:


Amaterasu; black flames, a move i respected so much but did u ever wonder why the amaterasu itachi fired against sasuke katon vanished as soon as the fire was over. or wat happens to the flames after it devours its host.well i'll come back there

MY TURN: thanks to byakugan, Neji can detect wen he is about to perform an eye jutsu e.g amaterasu. there will b a surge of chakra gathering round the eyes. so neji can get ready. some people say Neji may not b fast enough to kaiten it(although i still refute their say), so i thought of one blow body strike; the move he used against white zetsu. Amaterasu is chakra based which give higher chance. Neji can deflect amaterasu with kaiten. NOTE; amaterasu stops moving once it enconters a "substance"... i'll explain better if u insist

Susano-o was the move i looked upon as invulnerable but ...
Danzo made holes into sasukes susano-o with wind and then received the laud of Madara.but sasuno-o is made from the materialisation of onces charkra, which i belive will of little advantage to sasuke because jyuuken enhances charhra control as in kidomaru's case

 

[Turson]

wat prove do u have u say that neji isn't on the same level with sasuke wen neji is barely shown in the series

The same could be said about Tenten. Fact is, Neji never displayed speed comparable to Sasuke, not even close.

In the case of guy and Kisame , r u going to ignore gate?

Im not ignoring it. Surely, Neji have seen Gai using gates couple of times, yet when he encountered Kisame he said that he havent seen shinobi with that much chakra except Naruto, and it was only Kisames clone with 30% of chakra.

I wonder wat kind of a ninja at "kage" level will need help or grace wen fighting anoda kage

You fail to see one thing: MS Sasuke has proven to be strong enough to kill or at least severly cripple A, who is easily one of stronger if not the strongest of current Kages. Bee said that Sasuke was the second strongest shinobi he ever fought, and that telling much.

but making him like a sannin is overesteemation

Considering MS Sasuke skills I dont see any reason why he shouldnt be compared to samnins.

if sasuke was rated kage, wat will Kakashi who trashed him b rated as?.. god? pls

What are you talking about? Kakashi trashed Sasuke only when he was stil 13 year old genin.

 

[laxus]

for the times we seen neji in combat he is pretty good he's not even a master of the byakugan and his skills are great so far.it doesn't mean that a sharingan hassusanno,amerterasu and tsykuyomi that any other eye dojutsu is weak against it.

heavenly rotation iss a better defense than susanno it all depends on the user chakra and this abiliity lets chakra around the user rotate to block all attacks.
what is susanno something that limits pain like when sasuke get's hit he feels pain from the attack like A.the heavenly rotation will just bring A flying.THis all just depends on the chakra.

amerterasu a byakugan will easily notices this tech no point in using it really.the byakugan can see when the user is about to use his attack/chakra= doyou know what can revert the black flames heavenly rotation.

tsykuyomi a skilled byakugan user won't have a promblem since there master's of using their chakra so they can easily disrupt and break out of genjutsu.

also their chakra blast can hit yata mirror since it's not a nature type, you guys can't just say since we seen sharingan master there better than byakugan eye=that was never stated for the sharingan to be better than the byakugan it only states that the rinnegan is better than both.
i'll rather have a master of a byakugan than a master of a sharingan/ms and possibly ems

 

[Sasanooslayer]

for the times we seen neji in combat he is pretty good he's not even a master of the byakugan and his skills are great so far.it doesn't mean that a sharingan hassusanno,amerterasu and tsykuyomi that any other eye dojutsu is weak against it.

heavenly rotation iss a better defense than susanno it all depends on the user chakra and this abiliity lets chakra around the user rotate to block all attacks.
what is susanno something that limits pain like when sasuke get's hit he feels pain from the attack like A.the heavenly rotation will just bring A flying.THis all just depends on the chakra.

amerterasu a byakugan will easily notices this tech no point in using it really.the byakugan can see when the user is about to use his attack/chakra= doyou know what can revert the black flames heavenly rotation.

tsykuyomi a skilled byakugan user won't have a promblem since there master's of using their chakra so they can easily disrupt and break out of genjutsu.

also their chakra blast can hit yata mirror since it's not a nature type, you guys can't just say since we seen sharingan master there better than byakugan eye=that was never stated for the sharingan to be better than the byakugan it only states that the rinnegan is better than both.
i'll rather have a master of a byakugan than a master of a sharingan/ms and possibly ems

Ok I don't love sasuke by give credit were credit is due, even before ems or ms he beat deidria a S class missing nin, so even without ems he handle himself fairly well. And yes taijustsu is weakness of sharingan, but it's lee, gui, and raikages taijutsu that is powerful, neji's taijutsu is all based off of what you do WHEN you get close. Sasuke has edge because his ranged abilities are better and even if neji sees black flames coming *assuming he knows what they are* does not mean he will know which of the 3 sasuke is using. Also I don't know if Neji is fast enough to dodge black flames. Also remember sasuke has fire element strong wind, and all his fire.

 

[Turson]

heavenly rotation iss a better defense than susanno

No, its isnt.

the heavenly rotation will just bring A flying

Yeah, right. Even Naruto in part 1 was strong enough to break through Kaiten.

also their chakra blast can hit yata mirror since it's not a nature type

Sasuke dont have Yata mirror. Still, his Susanoo is strong enough to easily hold any Nejis technique. Amaterasu, Susanoo arrow are OHKO for Neji. In fact, Chidori lance would be enough to slaughter him.

 

[Uzumaki Hyuga]

Ok I don't love sasuke by give credit were credit is due, even before ems or ms he beat deidria a S class missing nin, so even without ems he handle himself fairly well. And yes taijustsu is weakness of sharingan, but it's lee, gui, and raikages taijutsu that is powerful, neji's taijutsu is all based off of what you do WHEN you get close. Sasuke has edge because his ranged abilities are better and even if neji sees black flames coming *assuming he knows what they are* does not mean he will know which of the 3 sasuke is using. Also I don't know if Neji is fast enough to dodge black flames. Also remember sasuke has fire element strong wind, and all his fire.

Before ms or ems, Sasuke possesed orochimaru's powers and had the cursed seal, without that he would have either died from the blast or get defeated by diedara.

Neji's tailjutsu is ordinary; jyuuken is regarded as the strongest tailjutsu in konoha, some little "touches" will do some tricks

Kiaten instead of dodging it and one blow body if it hits him, since amaterasu is charkra based, besides amaterasu is well known: Kankuro renowned it

Fire element.. are all charkra based

 

[Uzumaki Hyuga]

No, its isnt.

Yeah, right. Even Naruto in part 1 was strong enough to break through Kaiten.

Sasuke dont have Yata mirror. Still, his Susanoo is strong enough to easily hold any Nejis technique. Amaterasu, Susanoo arrow are OHKO for Neji. In fact, Chidori lance would be enough to slaughter him.

Naruto did not "break through" Neji's Kaiten(even for the fact that he hadn't mastered it compared to the way he did it wen he vs himself) instead Neji protected himself from his attack

Amaterasu is inferior to kiaten(charkra based) so is susano-o arrow
Neji isn't a baby that chidori spear is enough to kill, orochimaru at his sick stake could still block it so... Neji can do wat ever charkra cutting jutsu his byakugan enables him to do

 

[Uzumaki Hyuga]

No, its isnt.

Yeah, right. Even Naruto in part 1 was strong enough to break through Kaiten.

Sasuke dont have Yata mirror. Still, his Susanoo is strong enough to easily hold any Nejis technique. Amaterasu, Susanoo arrow are OHKO for Neji. In fact, Chidori lance would be enough to slaughter him.

Naruto did not "break through" Neji's Kaiten(even for the fact that he hadn't mastered it compared to the way he did it wen he vs himself) instead Neji protected himself from his attack

Amaterasu is inferior to kiaten(charkra based) so is susano-o arrow
Neji isn't a weakling that chidori spear is enough to kill, orochimaru at his sick stake could still block it so... Neji can do wat ever charkra cutting jutsu his byakugan enables him to do

 

[Uzumaki Hyuga]

The same could be said about Tenten. Fact is, Neji never displayed speed comparable to Sasuke, not even close.

Im not ignoring it. Surely, Neji have seen Gai using gates couple of times, yet when he encountered Kisame he said that he havent seen shinobi with that much chakra except Naruto, and it was only Kisames clone with 30% of chakra.

You fail to see one thing: MS Sasuke has proven to be strong enough to kill or at least severly cripple A, who is easily one of stronger if not the strongest of current Kages. Bee said that Sasuke was the second strongest shinobi he ever fought, and that telling much.

Considering MS Sasuke skills I dont see any reason why he shouldnt be compared to samnins.

What are you talking about? Kakashi trashed Sasuke only when he was stil 13 year old genin.

its not like it creepled A by itself but it was the carelesss drive of his emotions that his brother was killed that made him sacrifice that arm. POINT: sasuke could only touch him

Kakashi trashed sasuke in the fight they had after danzo's fight with Sasuke. Sasuke was healed by Karin after the fight. I still wonder if Sasuke even touched Kakashi himself, because at the end it felt lik Sasuke spent time battling his clone

 

[nimriku]

sasuke black chidori

 

[laxus]

No, its isnt.

Yeah, right. Even Naruto in part 1 was strong enough to break through Kaiten.

Sasuke dont have Yata mirror. Still, his Susanoo is strong enough to easily hold any Nejis technique. Amaterasu, Susanoo arrow are OHKO for Neji. In fact, Chidori lance would be enough to slaughter him.[/QUOTE}

lol
it all depends on the user's chakra and skills
do you think a normalrasengan will bread neji heavenly rotation now at his improved ability over the years

heavenly rotation can block thsoe attacks and neji can do chakra blast on susanno.

 

[Uzumaki Hyuga]

sasuke black chidori

Sasuke could activate black chidori just because he had the curse mark, and MS Sasuke had lost his curse in the battle against Itachi. Despite that black chidori is still charkra based and short ranged so inferior to Kiaten

 

[Turson]

Amaterasu is inferior to kiaten(charkra based) so is susano-o arrow

Not really. Susanoo arrow broke through Mokuton, from my point of view it will break through Kaiten with easy.

Neji's tailjutsu is ordinary; jyuuken is regarded as the strongest tailjutsu in konoha, some little "touches" will do some tricks

Still, Sasuke is faster and Sharingan can predict movements, so Nejis Jyuuken is not threat. Its quite the contrary, for Neji being close to Sasuke would be bery risky becuase of Chidori Nagashi.

its not like it creepled A by itself but it was the carelesss drive of his emotions that his brother was killed that made him sacrifice that arm. POINT: sasuke could only touch him

And A was barely able to break few of Susanoo bones. Sasuke with full developed Susanoo is untouchable for A, let alone Neji.

Kakashi trashed sasuke in the fight they had after danzo's fight with Sasuke

Lol? Are you having delusions or what? That was no trashing, they were both using MS, Kakashi said that without Kamui he wouldnt stand a chance.

Sasuke was healed by Karin after the fight

His cuts might have beein healed, but he was still very exhausted from all the previous fights.

Overall, Sasuke is on whole different level, Neji dont stand a chance.

 

[fastrthnwind]

When it comes to fighting hand-to-hand, Neji and Sasuke are both very proficient. Tey are both equally matched when it comes down to short range combat. Neji's taijutsu however, requires him to move his hands at a much faster pace than others so his hand speeds will probably exceed sasukes by a little. The byakugan is also said to be able to see through nearly all genjutsu, which means that he could possibly either use his byakugan to see through tsukiyomi or use his perfect chakra control to break out of it, or possibly both. Neji's rotation is able to block any physical or chakra attacks including amaterasu and susanoos arrows. He could also use the byakugan's abilities to predict saukes movements and halt his flow of chakra with his taijustsu.

Not saying that he will win, but I'm showing that Sasuke will probably need to at least sweat a little before beating Neji.

 

[Turson]

The byakugan is also said to be able to see through nearly all genjutsu

Nope. Ao saw though genjutsu casted 3rd Mizukage becuase he simply saw chakra disturbance in his chakra flow. As far as we know, genjutsu casted on Byakugan user should work just fine.

Neji's rotation is able to block any physical or chakra attacks including amaterasu and susanoos arrows

So I guess Neji would be also able to pwn Naruto or A. Seriously, you are greatly overstading Kaiten.

He could also use the byakugan's abilities to predict saukes movements

Lol? Sharingan predicts movements, Byakugan has no such ability.