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Sasuke has surpassed madara. That's for sure. Right now he could even beat JJ madara. Now about hagaromo. I believe the argument here is that when sasuke soloed the bijuu, hagaromo was very surprised. While this may place sasuke above hagaromo in terms of dojutsu skill. Hagaromo's yin power still greater than everybody's.

So being surprised by something means inferiority now? Lol. We might as well say naruto>>kaguya since he constantly surprised her Lol.

Realistically sasuke can beat madara let alone hogoromo. I don't know how strong he is now, but since feats are what count based on his past showings, he can't be more powerful.
 

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Lel, by your logic madara has 3 eyes(sharingan, rinnegan and rinne sharingan) as well. Sasuke surpasses no one, how can he transcend the sage who gave him his power?

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Well the Kyuubi said Sasuke's chakra control is almost unrivalled,and put him on the Sage's level.

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This was at 17 When he had it for a couple hours.Surely Sasuke is even more skilled with the Rinnegan 10+ years later.

In power Sasuke probably can't surpass the Sage,but in skill,perhaps.

The Sage was also very surprised Sasuke got all the Bijuus in Genjutsu with a Glance.

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From what we seen of Madara,when using Genjutsu on the Raikage he switched from Rinnegan to EMS,so i doubt the normal Rinnegan can use Genjutsu.

The Kyuubi also noted how Sasuke was new to the Rinnegan,and couldn't absorbed techniques while using his own.

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Again,there was a 10+ year time skip.If he could use his Rinnegan so well from having it for just two hours,surely he's mastered it after more than a decade.
 
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Well the Kyuubi said Sasuke's chakra control is almost unrivalled,and put him on the Sage's level.

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This was at 17 When he had it for a couple hours.Surely Sasuke is even more skilled with the Rinnegan 10+ years later.

In power Sasuke probably can't surpass the Sage,but in skill,perhaps.

The Sage was also very surprised Sasuke got all the Bijuus in Genjutsu with a Glance.

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From what we seen of Madara,when using Genjutsu on the Raikage he switched from Rinnegan to EMS,so i doubt the normal Rinnegan can use Genjutsu.

I agree, we don't know how strong sasuke is now(he is probably much stronger). Because we don't know we can't work with his future self.

Like I said before, the sage being surprised by sasuke doesn't mean that the skill or power shown by sasuke surpasses his. If that was the case than we might as well say naruto and DMS kakashi>>kaguya since they kept surprising her. What the sage's surprise shows is that he underestimated sasuke's ability and that perhaps sasuke was better than he previously thought
 

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I agree, we don't know how strong sasuke is now(he is probably much stronger). Because we don't know we can't work with his future self.

Like I said before, the sage being surprised by sasuke doesn't mean that the skill or power shown by sasuke surpasses his. If that was the case than we might as well say naruto and DMS kakashi>>kaguya since they kept surprising her. What the sage's surprise shows is that he underestimated sasuke's ability and that perhaps sasuke was better than he previously thought

Judging from the spoilers he stomps the blonde guy,so hopefully we get a good display of his abilities then,like using a path he hasn't shown yet.
 

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He has Sharingan, EMS and Rinnegan in one eye, his base mode is stronger than SM Naruto, it's no surprise though
 

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And all chakra originally belonged to the shinju, what's your point? Madara still awakened the rinne sharingan

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Kaguya (herself) was actually inside Madara at that point :| In fact u could pretty much say that Madara's body was hers, which explains the immortality now that i think about it :sweat:

The only problem was that Kaguya didnt have the power to supplant Madara at that time so instead she just increased her influence on his mind.

Anyway since Madara had Kaguya's body it is only natural that he would have her eye
 
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No doubt sasuke is at least hago level now especially when hago is so stupid

Nine tails indeed said sasuke was at hago level ten years ago
 
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Lel, by your logic madara has 3 eyes(sharingan, rinnegan and rinne sharingan) as well. Sasuke surpasses no one, how can he transcend the sage who gave him his power?

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JJ Madara = Ashura + Indra

Hagoromo = Ashura + Indra

Sasuke = Hagoromo + Indra

Naruto = Hagoromo + Ashura

Both Naruto and Sasuke transcended one half of the Sage's power. Naruto has double the amount of Yang whereas Sasuke has double the amount of Yin and their powers combined rivals Kaguya's.
 

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He has a sharingan in one eye and a rinnegan in the other.

His left eye is just a rinnegan with a different pattern, it functions the same like any other rinnegan.

He's used Amatersu and a basic ocular genjustu with his rinnegan eye. You can still use your uchiha powers through the rinnegan.
 
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