[Discussion] Sasuke

[King Kendrick]

but just his name started the war
his name strikes fear into people's hearts

that's legendary

Actions speak louder than words .

He got one shotted , deal with it .

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[XxTayxX]

Actions speak louder than words .

He got one shotted , deal with it .

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This picture is badass

 

[keshav31]

If you are comparing fighting since morning to dawn then naruto is fighting even before sasuke came to battle & also had chakra shared with everyone two-three times

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Sasuke to a Juubi Jin? LOL sorry but that is ridiculous.

Sasuke may have been when he used genjutsu and absorbed the 9 Biju's chakra but then he showed how much of an idiot he is by wasting it in one single attack and having his PS 9 Biju Infused attack destroyed by Naruto's 2 RS.

Sasuke is what Naruto was before he meet Bee. All Power and next to zero strategic battle sense.

Why did he only use the Rinnegan ability to absorb Chakra when he was getting a beating and had zero to no chakra when he should of used it far earlier.

Naruto tanked Sasuke who was going full force and Naruto pretty much already had a lot of his chakra used by sharing it with the majority of the Ninja alliance lol just goes to show how much lesser a person Sasuke is compared to Naruto.

 

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They're on a par .​

 

[UzumakiRyu]

They're on a par .​

Great insight man, tell me more

 

[UchihaIzzy]

Kishi spent 15 years on how Naruto=Sasuke. Can't believe how so many people still don't understand. Naruto and Sasuke were, are, and will always be equal in power. Sasuke saying "I lost" was never meant to be taken literally. He lost, as in he realized he was wrong all the time, blinded by revenge, Curse of Hatred etc. The fight itself was never won by anyone. And anyone telling otherwise, reread the ****ing manga, or at least chapters 698-699. The fact that they were both bleeding to death with a missing arm is more than enough proof that none of them won.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Kishi spent 15 years on how Naruto=Sasuke. Can't believe how so many people still don't understand. Naruto and Sasuke were, are, and will always be equal in power. Sasuke saying "I lost" was never meant to be taken literally. He lost, as in he realized he was wrong all the time, blinded by revenge, Curse of Hatred etc. The fight itself was never won by anyone. And anyone telling otherwise, reread the ****ing manga, or at least chapters 698-699. The fact that they were both bleeding to death with a missing arm is more than enough proof that none of them won.

Of Course the physical fight wasn't won by either and was a tie but the only reason Naruto fought Sasuke was to stop him and prevent the goals he wanted to kill Naruto in order to achieve them to which Naruto stopped him from doing like wanting to destroy the Biju / Killing the Five Kage / Uniting the Five Villages in hatred against him etc these he stopped and this is why Naruto beat Sasuke and won.

He won because he didn't need to beat Sasuke physically just TNJ him like every other fight lol

 

[UchihaIzzy]

Of Course the physical fight wasn't won by either and was a tie but the only reason Naruto fought Sasuke was to stop him and prevent the goals he wanted to kill Naruto in order to achieve them to which Naruto stopped him from doing like wanting to destroy the Biju / Killing the Five Kage / Uniting the Five Villages in hatred against him etc these he stopped and this is why Naruto beat Sasuke and won.

He won because he didn't need to beat Sasuke physically just TNJ him like every other fight lol

Yes, he won by TNJ. But that win was never physical, more like a debate between different philosophies, and Naruto proved Sasuke was wrong. That's why I never understood "Who's stronger, Naruto or Sasuke?" Type of posts. It is obvious that physically they are equals. Mentally, well, Sasuke was not in a clear state of mind for 698 chapters, but Naruto has so much willpower and rhetorical skills that he could have talked Sasuke into returning anytime, given a chance.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Yes, he won by TNJ. But that win was never physical, more like a debate between different philosophies, and Naruto proved Sasuke was wrong. That's why I never understood "Who's stronger, Naruto or Sasuke?" Type of posts. It is obvious that physically they are equals. Mentally, well, Sasuke was not in a clear state of mind for 698 chapters, but Naruto has so much willpower and rhetorical skills that he could have talked Sasuke into returning anytime, given a chance.

No Sasuke was not really out of his mind when he confronted Naruto about wanting to achieve peace through his own means he was pretty much astute at that point he merely was bested by Naruto who couldn't let him do what he wanted.

Maybe back when he was after Itachi and ready for the luny bin you could question his mental state but yea Sasuke in his own mind thought it was the best way to him to achieve peace like Madara thinking only way to get peace was a fake version of genjutsu on a massive scale where that was just to make everyone an army for Kaguya thanks to BZ lol

 

[UchihaIzzy]

No Sasuke was not really out of his mind when he confronted Naruto about wanting to achieve peace through his own means he was pretty much astute at that point he merely was bested by Naruto who couldn't let him do what he wanted.

Maybe back when he was after Itachi and ready for the luny bin you could question his mental state but yea Sasuke in his own mind thought it was the best way to him to achieve peace like Madara thinking only way to get peace was a fake version of genjutsu on a massive scale where that was just to make everyone an army for Kaguya thanks to BZ lol

Even if he was mentally stable when he declared his revolution, his mindset was still cloudy for more than 600 chapters. I'm not saying he was mentally unstable, but he was in a great turmoil because of his extreme emotions. Before fighting Itachi, he was driven by his hatred towards his brother. After fighting Itachi and before hearing the truth from Obito, he may have found a momentary peace, but that was of course changed. Then he was driven by his hatred towards the village to the point that he would attack anyone without thinking clearly. That includes his former teammates, who he still cared for deep inside. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that Sasuke was constantly changing his mind, without being able to see the world in it's actual state (that's why he went on a road to redemption). On the other hand, Naruto was always sure of his actions, minus one or two moments where he was REALLY unsure. Naruto won by TNJ, but that win was philosophical, not physical as a lot of people say. He made Sasuke change his opinions and that was what made Sasuke lose, and Naruto win. Besides that, physically they are equals. Even if Naruto didn't want to kill Sasuke, he was pushed to his limits. When their jutsu clashed for a final time, both of them were offensive and that's enough proof that no one is stronger.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Even if he was mentally stable when he declared his revolution, his mindset was still cloudy for more than 600 chapters. I'm not saying he was mentally unstable, but he was in a great turmoil because of his extreme emotions. Before fighting Itachi, he was driven by his hatred towards his brother. After fighting Itachi and before hearing the truth from Obito, he may have found a momentary peace, but that was of course changed. Then he was driven by his hatred towards the village to the point that he would attack anyone without thinking clearly. That includes his former teammates, who he still cared for deep inside. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that Sasuke was constantly changing his mind, without being able to see the world in it's actual state (that's why he went on a road to redemption). On the other hand, Naruto was always sure of his actions, minus one or two moments where he was REALLY unsure. Naruto won by TNJ, but that win was philosophical, not physical as a lot of people say. He made Sasuke change his opinions and that was what made Sasuke lose, and Naruto win. Besides that, physically they are equals. Even if Naruto didn't want to kill Sasuke, he was pushed to his limits. When their jutsu clashed for a final time, both of them were offensive and that's enough proof that no one is stronger.

Well said but you can't ignore some of the choices Sasuke made and some of the abilities he used in one situation that should of been used earlier but plot is plot that's how it is lol

 

[Draw]

Naruto > Sasuke in terms of everything besides eye techniques and battle calmness and senses. Naruto would stomp Sasuke if both were fresh and Sasuke had no 10 tails bull shit

 

[Draw]

Think about it. Two of Naruto's own moves, that he would use from his own skill (SAWSRS) and a gudodama rasenshuriken(senjutsu of 6 paths power given to him) equaled and canceled out Sasuke using his "most powerful technique" that could only be formed by absorbing way more chakra from all 9 tailed beasts than what Naruto had from all 9 of them. Sasuke needed the 10 tails power to equal Naruto. Without that power, he is below Naruto

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Well Sasuke has yet to Master the Rinnegan and once not if he does then that would be something totally different to consider but then again Naruto's experience against the Rinnegan allows him to fight it having probably the most experience then anyone fighting against it.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

When you have the power of the son of a Six Path, your stamina is literally OP. Thus leading to them "equal"

 

[UzumakiRyu]

When you have the power of the son of a Six Path, your stamina is literally OP. Thus leading to them "equal"

Sasuke went beyond equal after taking control of the 9 Bijuu but then went back to equal after pissing their power away, Their stamina was not strengthened by the chakra received by Hagamoro lol....Stamina is honed over long periods of time training not by being given chakra lol

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Naruto > Sasuke in terms of everything besides eye techniques and battle calmness and senses. Naruto would stomp Sasuke if both were fresh and Sasuke had no 10 tails bull shit

Not true.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Think about it. Two of Naruto's own moves, that he would use from his own skill (SAWSRS) and a gudodama rasenshuriken(senjutsu of 6 paths power given to him) equaled and canceled out Sasuke using his "most powerful technique" that could only be formed by absorbing way more chakra from all 9 tailed beasts than what Naruto had from all 9 of them. Sasuke needed the 10 tails power to equal Naruto. Without that power, he is below Naruto

Also not true.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Also not true.

Actually he isn't wrong, but I won't go so far to say he's right.

If Sasuke believed in his own power he would not of used the Biju but he did which tells us he didn't believe he had the power required to kill Naruto and this is a big thing as Sasuke detests using power not his own even hated having his brothers eyes transplanted into him