[Discussion] Sasuke

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

I didn't read? Didn't I just tell you to read 697? Lol.

Sasuke clearly said in that chapter he used to much chakra so much he couldn't control his new technique, The Sharinnegan. Like I also Said Naruto isn't the one who misused his that was Sasuke. Power of 9 Biju pisses it away in one attack and got his ultimate PS form destroyed LOL

Sasuke got rekt in that attack by quick thinking of Naruto lmao.

In the End Naruto's quick thinking > Sasuke

Itachi would be ashamed at how poorly his lil brother uses the power he had because he couldn't even use the Rinnegan techniques he had right instead of using the ability to absorb chakra much earlier he left using it after he got punched into the side of the mountain and Kurama gave chakra to Naruto so Sasuke absorbed that lmao.

Please go back and read the fight again. I have just told you what each of them did. Sasuke said and i quote " I've used too much chakra i cant control my rinnegan properly". This was right after using amateratsu on Naruto. He said he couldnt use it properly not that he couldnt use it at all. Thats why he couldnt pull the bijuu close and absorb their chakra yet he could absorb chakra from Naruto. And lol to the part where you said Sasuke should have absorbed his chakra earlier. Absorbing chakra requires contact and during a fight who would stand there and let their chakra be absorbed.
Ive already explained in earlier posts who had more chakra and who wasted thiers more. So maybe read the fight again and reconstruct your argument.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

That "Eye Power" is the Sharinnegan that gave Sasuke both a S/T Jutsu and the Rinnegan also the PS so I believe it can be classed as OP.

Susanoo is a Sharingan technique not a rinnegan one. He would have gotten PS eventually.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Please go back and read the fight again. I have just told you what each of them did. Sasuke said and i quote " I've used too much chakra i cant control my rinnegan properly". This was right after using amateratsu on Naruto. He said he couldnt use it properly not that he couldnt use it at all. Thats why he couldnt pull the bijuu close and absorb their chakra yet he could absorb chakra from Naruto. And lol to the part where you said Sasuke should have absorbed his chakra earlier. Absorbing chakra requires contact and during a fight who would stand there and let their chakra be absorbed.
Ive already explained in earlier posts who had more chakra and who wasted thiers more. So maybe read the fight again and reconstruct your argument.

Sasuke had a ton more chakra the moment he pulled the chakra from the Biju and to counter this Naruto used the moment Sasuke smashed one of Kurama's clones to the ground and had him gather the natural energy which I've stated already demonstrates Naruto's quick thinking like he has done in the past.

Sasuke had the advantage but threw it away in a foolish attack he thought would pay off but didn't. The Very definition of overwhelming power misused because of his even more overwhelming Arrogance.

Susanoo is a Sharingan technique not a rinnegan one. He would have gotten PS eventually.

I didn't refer in any way his PS coming from his Rinnegan, Because Yes I already knew it's a Sharigan technique. Needa brush up on your reading skills there buddy.

Edit: You probably figured I said that because of me quoting "Eye Power" that power is both the Rinnegan in one eye and Sharigan lol, where S/T came from the Rinnegan that being Sasuke's unique Rinne ability and PS from Sharigan

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Sasuke had a ton more chakra the moment he pulled the chakra from the Biju and to counter this Naruto used the moment Sasuke smashed one of Kurama's clones to the ground and had him gather the natural energy which I've stated already demonstrates Naruto's quick thinking like he has done in the past.

Sasuke had the advantage but threw it away in a foolish attack he thought would pay off but didn't. The Very definition of overwhelming power misused because of his even more overwhelming Arrogance.

Ive already explained that Naruto had more chakra. He absorbed more than enough chakra to fight Sasuke (according to kyuubi. Refer to image). I didnt say he didnt do some quick thinking. That was a good tactic. However, he had more chakra and put everything into that one attack. Hence misuse.

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[UzumakiRyu]

Ive already explained that Naruto had more chakra. He absorbed more than enough chakra to fight Sasuke (according to kyuubi. Refer to image). I didnt say he didnt do some quick thinking. That was a good tactic. However, he had more chakra and put everything into that one attack. Hence misuse.

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Pic's a bit small but I'm sure your eyes should be able to understand my point here.

Looks like more chakra then what Kurama's clone gathered anyway you say the tactic is good but obviously misunderstand it's use, there was no misuse by Naruto it was absorbed and executed perfectly. Naruto had Kurama do the job he wanted, Naruto had the chakra needed to counter Sasuke.

Where Naruto reacted the second to an overwhelming incoming attack by having Kurama countering it through gathering natural energy so do you understand now? Naruto didn't misuse chakra he got in moment's why? because he planned gathering the chakra the instant Kurama's clone was smashed into the ground then planned to use that mass of chakra to counter Sasuke's PS 9 Biju chakra infused Indra Arrow.

Naruto did indeed have a ton of chakra but that wasn't the case once Sasuke used genjutsu against the Bijuu and then having their chakra at his disposal anytime. Sasuke had that mass of chakra from that point on Naruto didn't and is why Sasuke had more chakra from the point on which is the reason why Sasuke both mistimed and misused that mass of chakra from the 9 Biju.

 

[WalksInShadows]

I find it funny how people are hating on Sasuke stealing chakra from the bijuu. They are a chakra source. Naruto is stealing chakra from nature (sage mode) yet nobody calls this cheating.

wtf? how does one "steal" from nature

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

wtf? how does one "steal" from nature

Haha. I was just making a point. He is absorbing chakra from am external source. Same as sasuke did with the bijuu.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

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Pic's a bit small but I'm sure your eyes should be able to understand my point here.

Looks like more chakra then what Kurama's clone gathered anyway you say the tactic is good but obviously misunderstand it's use, there was no misuse by Naruto it was absorbed and executed perfectly. Naruto had Kurama do the job he wanted, Naruto had the chakra needed to counter Sasuke.

Where Naruto reacted the second to an overwhelming incoming attack by having Kurama countering it through gathering natural energy so do you understand now? Naruto didn't misuse chakra he got in moment's why? because he planned gathering the chakra the instant Kurama's clone was smashed into the ground then planned to use that mass of chakra to counter Sasuke's PS 9 Biju chakra infused Indra Arrow.

Naruto did indeed have a ton of chakra but that wasn't the case once Sasuke used genjutsu against the Bijuu and then having their chakra at his disposal anytime. Sasuke had that mass of chakra from that point on Naruto didn't and is why Sasuke had more chakra from the point on which is the reason why Sasuke both mistimed and misused that mass of chakra from the 9 Biju.

You can't just assume things. You have to take manga as fact. Trust me, when Sasuke absorbed all that chakra, to me logic dictates that he wins the fight cuz no amount of sage chakra should match that(maybe its because its kyuubi that was absorbing the chakra). But he absorebed bijuu chakra so at that point in chakra sasuke > Naruto and like you said Naruto(more like kyuubi) absorbed more than enough sage chakra to counter what Sasuke absorbed so then Naruto back to being > Sasuke.

I do see your point about putting a whole lot of chakra into one attack. Youre right. Sasuke initiated and Naruto had to counter. However, they both still have their chakra cloaks after they throw their techniques. So they couldnt have put in anywhere near to all their chakra into it. They damage from the techniques colliding is probably what did them in.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

wtf? how does one "steal" from nature

Exactly. The difference here is that Sasuke took by force what Naruto took by convenience. Nature energy belongs to no one so belongs to all but not everyone has the chakra and training to use it.

Sasuke can be called cheating because he took what was not his in the first place, Naruto gathered what he did because he is welcome to do so unlike Sasuke.

You can't just assume things. You have to take manga as fact. Trust me, when Sasuke absorbed all that chakra, to me logic dictates that he wins the fight cuz no amount of sage chakra should match that(maybe its because its kyuubi that was absorbing the chakra). But he absorebed bijuu chakra so at that point in chakra sasuke > Naruto and like you said Naruto(more like kyuubi) absorbed more than enough sage chakra to counter what Sasuke absorbed so then Naruto back to being > Sasuke.

I do see your point about putting a whole lot of chakra into one attack. Youre right. Sasuke initiated and Naruto had to counter. However, they both still have their chakra cloaks after they throw their techniques. So they couldnt have put in anywhere near to all their chakra into it. They damage from the techniques colliding is probably what did them in.

You saying the point beyond Sasuke absorbing the Bijuu chakra assured him Victory isn't fact or logic......simply your own opinion which you shouldn't be passing off as facts.

Kaguya had all that chakra she absorbed through that tree chasing everyone with chakra yet Naruto and Sasuke still beat her.

Overwhelming chakra reserves do not assure victory.