Sasuke vs the Sannin

[Zavage10]

Why is Orochimaru's one jutsu always restricted? Lol ppl act like Sasuke is superior, yet restrict his opponents strongest technique. Laughable.

Jman and Orochimaru solo mid difficulty

Lol hahahahahhaha

 

[Nattana]

KG, PC and VS already ended this thread.

Ended? All they said was Enton, Enton, Enton, Enton. They cannot even reply to manga arguments and treat the Sannin like some rag dolls waiting for Sasuke to stomp their asses.

 

[adeshina365]

Ended? All they said was Enton, Enton, Enton, Enton. They cannot even reply to manga arguments and treat the Sannin like some rag dolls waiting for Sasuke to stomp their asses.

No, that's you.

 

[genii96]

Orochimaru solos,jiraiya dosent

 

[adeshina365]

Orochimaru solos,jiraiya dosent

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Never stop genii96, never stop.

 

[genii96]

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Never stop genii96, never stop.

sorry didnt see the edo tensei restriction

 

[adeshina365]

sorry didnt see the edo tensei restriction

If you'd read the OP, you would have seen it.

 

[genii96]

Why did the OP restrict orochimaru?,remove j-man and tsunade and add edo tensei and lets see the outcome

 

[KidGamer65]

Why is Orochimaru's one jutsu always restricted? Lol ppl act like Sasuke is superior, yet restrict his opponents strongest technique. Laughable.

Jman and Orochimaru solo mid difficulty

The nonsense in some people's posts never cease to amaze me.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Scroll starts blank, Jiraiya

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on it and

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I was under the impression that it was a premade scroll but regardless, still have no clue how many scrolls he has (especially since there definitely won't be an infinite amount) all he gets for now is one, if you can show that he carries more scrolls.

Don't know why anyone in their right mind would think that this is a factor when the guy has to draw a pattern, and then seal the jutsu for it to be effective. Not happening in a fight with a guy who can spam rapid fire Enton.



-Sasuke's legged Susanoo is FAR FAR FAR superior to the one that was restrained with Gaara's sand, so the comparison is completely irrelevant, not to mention it never even restrained it, it held it in place and there is a clear difference.

-It blocked Shinju's roots from hitting them, different from restraining a foe and restraining a foe who is actually trying to break free. Not to mention these roots get cut up by things like Suiton, Enma, and Gunbai, not even a good comparison.

How is Susanoo stuck in the swamp going to change anything? It only causes it to sink and restrains its feet and legs, not its upper body.



Enton can be coated on top of Susanoo, if he blocks one, he simply burns the other one up, or breaks free with Susanoo's raw strength, and again the only hindrance the swamp is causing is mobility wise, not strength wise.

Ma and Pa huh?

1. Frog Song will paralyze him, but it won't cause Susanoo to drop or stop, not at all. Sound on its own has never caused Susanoo to drop, ever. Thus he isn't getting immobilized.

2. Comparing Frog Song to White Rage doesn't help you here. White Rage inflicts blinding light, intense pain due to bones rubbing up against each other, and deafening due to the loud sound. The last two are the main reasons Susanoo dropped, cause they couldn't focus to maintain it. A paralysis jutsu that works on sound alone isn't going to cause Susanoo to drop like White Rage did.



Read above for Frog Song, Jiraiya's hair and Oro's snakes.

How does that scan prove it wasn't mud? It looking different doesn't mean that its not mud, as its stated that its used to change the ground below the enemy to mud.

Why wouldn't Fire sealing scroll be a factor? Lmfao, it's a very viable tactic to get rid of any amaterasu that somehow manages to hit them. You think they know about sasuke but they'll just foolishly get hit by amaterasu? In the first place, They'll simply let orochimaru's snakes take point. Any amaterasu which hits them is simply shed off. You're trying to imply that they'll stand there and get hit by enton then casually stand around and watch jiraiya drawing a pattern without trying to defend themselves. Goju rashoumon? Toad stomach? Dust cloud? sitting in a snake's mouth? sitting inside katsuya? These are just some defences to protect them while jiraiya draws his artwork.

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Tsunade can camp inside katsuya the entire fight if she wants or whenever she wants so that katsuya takes any enton attacks. If any amaterasu hits her, Byakugo simply keeps her going for as long as she needs. For that matter, she can fight on fire and beat sasuke to a pulp; Amaterasu didn't

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one bit. The only thing it'll do her is give tsunade flaming fists which would damage sasuke if he doesn't put out his own amaterasu. If you even insinuate that amaterasu reduces tsunade to ashes through byakugo, I officially consider it as you waving the white flag since you know that's rubbish - CS sasuke took a

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, without turning to ash, but tsunade will die to it because you say so? through regeneration? Not happening. Sasuke would simply be wasting chakra on tsunade if he hits her with amaterasu; The only thing he has in his entire arsenal to kill her is crushing her with susano'o arms. But, guess what? She's not alone and Jiraiya and Orochimaru have more than enough defence to protect her while she just keeps funneling chakra to them. Even if Sasuke sets tsunade on fire, she's still able to effectively fight through it until Orochimaru absorbs it off of her, jiraiya uses the fire sealing scroll to get rid of it, or fukasaku blows it off of her, or one of many other ways to get amaterasu off her body

Jiraiya can use

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(sorry i can't remember exactly where in manga he used this, so i just used a google pic) to protect himself from amaterasu.
He could also use fukasaku to blow it off then have tsunade heal him up, assuming he even took fatal damage yet; Considering raikage's hand wasn't ash and TSM gives jiraiya a boosted body, I doubt he'd even be damaged.
Orochimaru could absorb it off of him.
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to intercept enton like

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Shina could use dust release to completely blind sasuke leaving orochimaru and jiraiya the only people that can fight.
Seeing as jiraiya could sense the build up of chakra in sasuke, he could simply use needle jizo to protect his body from amaterasu. He then uses needle senbon to shed off all hair that has amaterasu

Orochimaru doesn't need any explanations. He could simply absorb it or use oral rebirth. Considering tsunade can transfer chakra to him, he can use oral rebirth for a long damn time.

Right there, this fallacy of enton being the be all end all is already over. Enton isn't ending a thing; Sasuke needs to land actual damage to kill any of the sannin. And, seeing as you agree that base attacks (taijutsu etc) are suicide, he'd need to be launching susano'o attacks -- Arrows, swords, amaterasu, summoning -- the entire battle. Now, exactly how long do you think sasuke would last doing all that nonsense? Tsunade easily has more chakra than this guy, I hardly doubt anyone would even debate sasuke has more chakra than tsunade. So, even suggesting he outlast her is insane. Sage mode allows jiraiya to waste much less chakra per attack, so not even he can sasuke outlast. Orochimaru himself is a chakra monster. Seeing as he could get his snakes to do most of the shedding for his team, he'd rarely ever need to use oral rebirth.

-Lmfao. Oh please. Sasuke's legged susano'o is only 'far far' more powerful because he was running on

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. Don't even attempt to claim 'Oh, he did it without naruto's chakra hur dur'. Do you have proof of that? no. None. Manga says cloak's size only diminishes, not vanishes. Even kakashi was still running on massive boosts when the cloak was off. The chakra maybe didn't affect the size of the susano'o, or the legs, but it sure as hell affected it's power seeing as the chakra being used to create it was much more powerful. The susano'o gaara restrained is the same as sasuke's legged susano'o. One had legs, the other didn't. Furthermore,

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is basically about how deadly sasuke's legged susano'o is. Against 3 sannin, without naruto's chakra, he's not doing much damage with that. You've yet to provide me with any evidence stating sasuke can just break out of the holds like you claim. In fact, you claim it only held susano'o in it's place. Is that not the definition of restraint? Isn't that the point? If you prefer, I could just get the sannin to toss that susano'o away and play ping pong with it. Destroy it like madara's was.

-Shinjuu's root was moving forward. It made it Stop. You think the root just decided "Oh, he stopped me, let me stop fighting now, i've been defeated". Lol? Is this seriously your defence? Then you try to demeen the power of the root by making utterly ludicrous arguments. Enma was able to push the kyuubi out of the village, but smashing shinjuu is a shock? water canon can

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and

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, but cutting shinjuu is a shock? Madara cutting a root

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than him, is somehow equivalent to cutting a massive branch

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? Just look at the size of hiruzen as he's approaching that thing. By your logic,

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. Save it. You have absolutely no evidence supporting your claim, however I'll address your enton claim in a minute.

-Actually, can you provide scans that sasuke can coat an entire legged, V3 susano'o? because he did it, somewhat, to ribcage doesn't imply he could even do this. That'd imply he could coat a PS. The onus is on you to prove this claim here before I even bother to dispute it.

-Again, You have no evidence of what you're suggesting. Where do you think the vibrations from white rage came? Obviously the sound waves. Sound is vibration. you can feel loud enough sound. Hence, white rage was so loud that it deafened sasuke and rattled his bones. Like I should above, frog song was able to paralyze 2 summonings. It didn't paralyze off of their ears hurting, it paralyzed off of their bones hurting. It is only pain that'll stop your movement, not hearing. Bringing up the light from white rage is completely irrelevant seeing as light doesn't rattle your bones. In fact, let me pose this question. Where do you even think white rage comes from? It's a snake sage jutsu. The same way frog song is a toad sage jutsu. They both emit super sonic, immobilizing sound. Anyway I'll end this here because I didn't really want to get too much into this.

lol what? Obviously toad weapons, snake tails, and Tsunade aren't coming close the raw power of all 9 Bijuu using a combined tail slap, not when they have the strength to

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. No such strength has EVER been shown by any of these guys to let you say that combined they are creating power equal to all 9 Bijuu hitting them altogether. Tsunade cracking a Ribcage means what here again? Much much weaker than V3, her kicking isn't going to let her significantly damage V3 when she can't even destroy Ribcage by herself.

There is no proof for the bold. Cracking a Ribcage Susanoo isn't evidence, not when Bijuu can hit each other back hundreds of meters, them not making a big crater doesn't mean anything when their attacks work differently from Tsunade's punch (Which release chakra from her fist in an explosion) and when I already have feats of her failing to destroy a V1 in one hit while all 9 Bijuu hit Susanoo at once smashed right through it.




Read above.



Good thing he didn't one shot them, he simply knocked them around.

Now, this. This right here, I know it has to be a joke, right?
Shima can

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Sage mode

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Byakugo sakura, who's said to be

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like they were baseballs.
Gamahiro can

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There are at least 9 -- Gamahiro, gamaken, Gamabunta, Gamakichi, Manda 2( he was never killed; If you want i can give oro manda 1) and any other snake oro summons, Shima, Fukasaku, Jiraiya and tsunade -- super strong beings on team 2 who could casually toss around bijuu, but your argument is that "Bijuu can throw each other around" So they're stronger. Lmfao? Well, I don't work on manga opinion, I work on manga fact. And, Manga fact states that Tsunade, jiraiya, shima and fukasaku are possibly stronger than bijuu due to their power boosts (Byakugo/ sage mode), while everyone else is just as easily comparable to a bijuu. Unless you can provide me any scan suggesting any bijuu is even stronger than tsunade, I would kindly like that you refrain from passing on your opinion as fact. I've never seen any 1 bijuu do anything remotely close to

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. Based on manga fact, a charged attack like this would bury susano'o.

EDIT: I'm referring to strength, not overall. I don't want to hear about 'kyuubi can kill blah blah blah' because that's not the point. The point is manga's shown those 4 can push out more strength than a bijuu. Clearly a bijuu would beat them because they have TBB's...

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This match is clear. The sannin win.

 

[Prince Charles]

Why wouldn't Fire sealing scroll be a factor? Lmfao, it's a very viable tactic to get rid of any amaterasu that somehow manages to hit them. You think they know about sasuke but they'll just foolishly get hit by amaterasu? In the first place, They'll simply let orochimaru's snakes take point. Any amaterasu which hits them is simply shed off. You're trying to imply that they'll stand there and get hit by enton then casually stand around and watch jiraiya drawing a pattern without trying to defend themselves. Goju rashoumon? Toad stomach? Dust cloud? sitting in a snake's mouth? sitting inside katsuya?

It isn't a plausible factor due to the method that jiraiya has to take to release it and perform the said seal. You said it's a reliable tactic to get rid of any amaterasu that manages to hit them. Do you know how retarded you sound right now? So jiraiya is going to perform the seal and etc while his set on amaterasu? You overrate the hell out of them, regardless even if they do know about sasuke's abilities how would that stop them from getting hit with amaterasu? Base jiraiya doesn't have the speed nor reaction to counter amaterasu the same goes for tsunade, orochimaru has his methods so ill give you that. Your saying as soon as the fight starts orochimaru will command his sands to wrap around jiraiya and tsunade? What? It just sounds like to me your coming up with petty methods to prolong the sannin's demise.

Now back to Orochimaru covering both jiraiya and tsunade you know that orochimaru will have to cover them both completely in snakes right? It was already dispalyed when sasuke covered Juugo and Suigestu in his white snakes some of their body parts were still

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. That being said even if orochimaru cover's there body they will still be exposed to enton and amaterasu. But wait ill expect something from you along the lines of ''But orochimaru will know to cover their body completely'':|. Sasuke's white snake barely managed to make it in time to protect him from 3 incoming kunai's from itachis crow clone[

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Now it is true that orochimaru may be capable of covering their bodies in time with snakes but that's still a IF. Even he does manage to you said the snakes would shed off shed with the amaterasu? You do realize sasuke can simply use enton and make the amaterasu attack the sannin again as it's coming off with the snakes? What about rashoumon gates? Orochimaru has only shown to use that against a destructive force such as a tailed beast beam from 4Tail naruto, I won't deny that he can use the gates to stop some incoming attack but even then he has to bite his fingers and smack both his hands on the ground, which event is going to happen first? a near instant attack from sasuke or orochimaru defending against it with the rashoumon gates?

Yeah thought so and im not even downplaying the gates as I said it is a plausible counter but orochimaru is not using the gates for every attack that sasuke has to offer that's fanfiction, not too mention his only shown to use the gates against a attack of a magnitude as I said against a TTB beam blast, sasuke's attack are not that destructive but regardless I won't deny he won't use it. Regarding your ways to protect jiraiya writing that fire scroll seriously? Like I said your just coming up with petty methods to prolong their deaths! Just stop. Not too mention regarding the fire seal scroll it has been showcased and discussed regarding it's range and radius that it has to be in to seal fire, it's arguably that it will still seal amaterasu from a longer range than what's been showcased? Dust cloud? Ok ill give you that but he does need ma and pa does he not? Will jiraiya even make it to that point before he get lit with amaterasu? Sitting in a snakes mouth? Do you listen to your self? So sasuke is going to watch as jiraiya launches to a snake and goes in it's mouth? Frog stomach? Like I said keep coming with the petty methods to prolong their demise it's pathetic just accept reality they are not winning this.

Not too mention we still need to take into factor of the fire sealing scroll range that it needs to be in to seal the fire? So jiraiya will go into a frog/snake's body or whatever and prep the scroll and come back out and go near the fire and seal it? ....... Yeah believe that, tell me what are tsunade and orochimaru doing while jiraiya is doing what his doing? Oh wait your going to say tsunade hides in katsuya... This nigga.

Lmao what I just open that spoiler scan in regards to counters to amaterasu for tsunade. So tsunade will be lit on with amaterasu and keep fighting comfortably and beat sasuke to a pulp? His his sussano on? lmao just stop, you sound retarded as hell. tsunade isn't even getting close to sasuke without getting crushed by sussano or chopped in half with a enton blade which even cut through the juubi's monsters. It didn't hinder Ay? You don't even properly analyze the scans you post, do not you see not the amaterasu on his brass gauntlet? Imo obviously the pain won't be as great considering the enton isn't even touching his body directly. I agree that amaterasu won't burn tsunade to a crisp due to her healing abilities but the burning speed of amaterasu should not be overlooked because kishi has been inconsistent on it as it has been shown that amaterasu can be burned quickly. Haha he doesn't need to crush tsunade, enton blade chops her up like ham and Swiss cheese.

You talk so much bullshit my laptop might get a virus honestly, please dont give Ay's feats to tsunade, especially when amaterasu wasn't even directly on Ay's body but rather his brass gauntlet, of course tsunade will be to still fight effectively with her whole body on amaterasu:| Please log off.

Regarding jiraiya's counters to amaterasu yes those are all plausible such as wrapping himself around in his hair before a near instant amaterasu lights him off.. Do you hear yourself? Jiraiya isn't reacting to amaterasu and you keep bringing up Ma and Pa but jiraiya isn't even making it to sage mode, not too mention sasuke should be capable of controlling MA and PA with his sharigan or did you not take that into factor? Madara didn't intercept amaterasu that was a enton manipulated arrow, show me scans of jiraiya sensing chakra because I need to see it to believe it.

Orochimaru doesn't need any explanations. He could simply absorb it or use oral rebirth. Considering tsunade can transfer chakra to him, he can use oral rebirth for a long damn time.

Yeah I agree orochimaru doesn't need explanations, but he is not immortal, I can see a enton blade or ps blade ending him with a good hit.

Right there, this fallacy of enton being the be all end all is already over. Enton isn't ending a thing; Sasuke needs to land actual damage to kill any of the sannin. And, seeing as you agree that base attacks (taijutsu etc) are suicide, he'd need to be launching susano'o attacks -- Arrows, swords, amaterasu, summoning -- the entire battle. Now, exactly how long do you think sasuke would last doing all that nonsense? Tsunade easily has more chakra than this guy, I hardly doubt anyone would even debate sasuke has more chakra than tsunade. So, even suggesting he outlast her is insane. Sage mode allows jiraiya to waste much less chakra per attack, so not even he can sasuke outlast. Orochimaru himself is a chakra monster. Seeing as he could get his snakes to do most of the shedding for his team, he'd rarely ever need to use oral rebirth.

Doesnt matter if they have more chakra to waste, sasuke's attacks are too much for them and please stop bringing up summons for jiraiya and tsunade as they all get lit up with amaterasu or enton or controlled via sharigan. Sasuke can control Pa while his on jiraiya's shoulder and make Pa deal a deadly blow to his neck. See what I did there?

Lmfao. Oh please. Sasuke's legged susano'o is only 'far far' more powerful because he was running on

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. Don't even attempt to claim 'Oh, he did it without naruto's chakra hur dur'. Do you have proof of that? no. None. Manga says cloak's size only diminishes, not vanishes. Even kakashi was still running on massive boosts when the cloak was off. The chakra maybe didn't affect the size of the susano'o, or the legs, but it sure as hell affected it's power seeing as the chakra being used to create it was much more powerful. The susano'o gaara restrained is the same as sasuke's legged susano'o. One had legs, the other didn't. Furthermore,

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is basically about how deadly sasuke's legged susano'o is. Against 3 sannin, without naruto's chakra, he's not doing much damage with that. You've yet to provide me with any evidence stating sasuke can just break out of the holds like you claim. In fact, you claim it only held susano'o in it's place. Is that not the definition of restraint? Isn't that the point? If you prefer, I could just get the sannin to toss that susano'o away and play ping pong with it. Destroy it like madara's was.

Ok im some what confused here, your basically saying sasuke's legged sussano preferably this

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was only able to reach that state, the shield and etc because of naruto's chakra? So your basically saying sasuke's leg sussano should look like basically the ones madara had? I won't deny you may be right. Can it not be argued sasuke accomplished that state of his sussano with his own power ? But never the less I won't deny your may be correct, either way sasuke's 3 legged sussano is still dangerous here considering the speed of the slash that his sussano can do is incredibly fast regardless, the sannin are still prone to incoming attacks, I won't deny his legged sussano can't be restrained but I don't see it being restrained for a long time. And is PS restricted? If it isnt this match is simply more in sasuke's hands.

As for your paragraph regarding the roots being cut and etc I do not know what that is about so I will not comment on it.

Actually, can you provide scans that sasuke can coat an entire legged, V3 susano'o? because he did it, somewhat, to ribcage doesn't imply he could even do this. That'd imply he could coat a PS. The onus is on you to prove this claim here before I even bother to dispute it.

what do you mean coat?Do you mean giving the sussano extra armor layer of chakra? Hasn't sasuke been shown to do this already? Are were you referring to enton covering a legged sussano? Why does this need to be proven? He showed to cover a ribcage with enton via manipulation I see no difference it would make if it's a higher stage sussano.

Again, You have no evidence of what you're suggesting. Where do you think the vibrations from white rage came? Obviously the sound waves. Sound is vibration. you can feel loud enough sound. Hence, white rage was so loud that it deafened sasuke and rattled his bones. Like I should above, frog song was able to paralyze 2 summonings. It didn't paralyze off of their ears hurting, it paralyzed off of their bones hurting. It is only pain that'll stop your movement, not hearing. Bringing up the light from white rage is completely irrelevant seeing as light doesn't rattle your bones. In fact, let me pose this question. Where do you even think white rage comes from? It's a snake sage jutsu. The same way frog song is a toad sage jutsu. They both emit super sonic, immobilizing sound. Anyway I'll end this here because I didn't really want to get too much into this.

So your basically arguing that ma and pa's frog song palatalization will have the same effect as white rage and cause sussano to drop? I cannot deny this since I somewhat agree. But I don't see ma and pa even pulling that off before sasuke smokes them with enton or amaterasu and make them fried frog on a stick or even genjutsu, both's arguments can be played here.

Now, this. This right here, I know it has to be a joke, right?
Shima can

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Sage mode

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Byakugo sakura, who's said to be

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like they were baseballs.
Gamahiro can

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There are at least 9 -- Gamahiro, gamaken, Gamabunta, Gamakichi, Manda 2( he was never killed; If you want i can give oro manda 1) and any other snake oro summons, Shima, Fukasaku, Jiraiya and tsunade -- super strong beings on team 2 who could casually toss around bijuu, but your argument is that "Bijuu can throw each other around" So they're stronger. Lmfao? Well, I don't work on manga opinion, I work on manga fact. And, Manga fact states that Tsunade, jiraiya, shima and fukasaku are possibly stronger than bijuu due to their power boosts (Byakugo/ sage mode), while everyone else is just as easily comparable to a bijuu. Unless you can provide me any scan suggesting any bijuu is even stronger than tsunade, I would kindly like that you refrain from passing on your opinion as fact. I've never seen any 1 bijuu do anything remotely close to

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. Based on manga fact, a charged attack like this would bury susano'o.

EDIT: I'm referring to strength, not overall. I don't want to hear about 'kyuubi can kill blah blah blah' because that's not the point. The point is manga's shown those 4 can push out more strength than a bijuu. Clearly a bijuu would beat them because they have TBB's...

I won't deny this since I agree but I dont agree with any of them being capable of breaking sussano the best they can do is simply toss it around not that sasuke would even get damaged, doesn't change the fact that the majority of the summons of enton/amaterasu target practice like it or not.

Sasuke wins med diff at best.

 

[Bronze]

The wall of your text Prince Charles made my eyes bleed_@:

Nigga use some spaces.

 

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Prince make some paragraphs for the first part of your post...

 

[Prince Charles]

Fine hold on

edit- refresh your page i spaced them out

 

[Bronze]

That's better.

 

[AGoodBoy]

holy ****. Prince, I'd have to get turnt up to reply to that, I'll reply to that later. If I do reply to that, may the lord help your soul. The wall of text will be strong..

EDIT: I just read your response. Lmfaoooooo that's some funny shit I'm not gonna lie. The way you make my arguments sound moronic is pure genius lmfao.

 

[Prince Charles]

holy ****. Prince, I'd have to get turnt up to reply to that, I'll reply to that later. If I do reply to that, may the lord help your soul. The wall of text will be strong..

You aint ready nigga.

I live for this!

 

[AGoodBoy]

You aint ready nigga.

I live for this!

You might be right... But I already spotted a flaw in your argument where you stated you wanted scans to show jiraiya can sense. Poor PC. BTW i was arguing with SM jiraiya if you hadn't noticed lol. Guess I'll have to argue how he gets into SM, also.

Oh, and PS isn't restricted. In my initial post, I stated sasuke takes this easily if he uses PS, but sannin win without. SO gamer was responding to the without part.

 

[Prince Charles]

You might be right... But I already spotted a flaw in your argument where you stated you wanted scans to show jiraiya can sense. Poor PC. BTW i was arguing with SM jiraiya if you hadn't noticed lol. Guess I'll have to argue how he gets into SM, also.

Oh, and PS isn't restricted. In my initial post, I stated sasuke takes this easily if he uses PS, but sannin win without. SO gamer was responding to the without part.

oh ok then i wont use ps in my argument. and yes i want those scans of jiraiya sensing although i thought you were referring to base jiraiya and not sm and also regarding sensing are you referring to his chakra barrier he used against that invisible cameilion against pain? and luv the sig lol

 

[AGoodBoy]

oh ok then i wont use ps in my argument. and yes i want those scans of jiraiya sensing although i thought you were referring to base jiraiya and not sm and also regarding sensing are you referring to his chakra barrier he used against that invisible cameilion against pain? and luv the sig lol

SM sensing, barrier, Ma's sensing, etc.