Sasuke vs the Sannin

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The sannin take this mid diff.
 

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Nah, PS Sasuke defeats even the Gokage :|

What the fudging PS? : D Has Sasuke shown PS? NO. He has shown the from what you can run with. Tsunade alone kept up with five of those things that were going for the kill.
 

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Sasuke wins, any form of him who has legged susanoo and above takes the cake.

He has required defenses to tank anything sannin can offer while Sannin has little to none for his offenses.
 

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What the fudging PS? : D Has Sasuke shown PS? NO. He has shown the from what you can run with. Tsunade alone kept up with five of those things that were going for the kill.

Those Susanoos had no Amaterasu. Those Susanoos weren't even full powered. 1 Susanoo = 1/25 of Madara's power.
 

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What the fudging PS? : D Has Sasuke shown PS? NO. He has shown the from what you can run with. Tsunade alone kept up with five of those things that were going for the kill.

Madara literally said he was toying around with the Gokage.
 

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Madara literally said he was toying around with the Gokage.

He also said he has to break their willpower, he also said he had to use his full power to defeat them.
 

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He also said he has to break their willpower, he also said he had to use his full power to defeat them.

But he didn't use his full power. Did you see what he did to the Bijuu? You see how he blitz'd SM Naruto? He was not anywhere near full power. ._.
 

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But he didn't use his full power. Did you see what he did to the Bijuu? You see how he blitz'd SM Naruto? He was not anywhere near full power. ._.

The Madara who faced the Gokage is weaker then the current Madara.
 

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Orochimaru can for a while, Jiraiya can only do it once, and I'd like to hear your method for Tsunade's escape.

Lol. Orochimaru has at least 4 spammable way of shitting on Amaterasu + Oral Rebirth being the fifth one.
J-man has 2.
Tsunade has none, but she can withstand the flames until Oro drains the chakra from them.

Irrelevant, hitting Susanoo but not damaging it isn't going to do anything to it, Enton Blades chop up Giant Snakes like .

-Raishinshou? While he's in Susanoo? L.O.L.

And? Sound, light, air get through Susanoo. Electric waves would do that as well.

-Frog Song? Which needs massive prep on top of the prep it takes to enter Sage Mode? While Sasuke sips a cup of tea? L.M.A.O

Massive prep? Stop watching anime and read manga - you'll see how much prep it does really take...

-Not even seeing how his spores are helping while he's in Susanoo, not seeing how Rashomon is helping here when it can block a straightfoward attack but if he simply goes around it what then? Aoda gives his Susanoo mobility and any threats to Aoda (Superior Manda) get killed by Sasuke.

Whether Aoda would even take Sasuke's side or not is debatable, since Sasuke has never even been to Ryuchidou.
Oro can summon 1 Rashoumon every time an attack would be incoming. He outsped already fired off TBB with it, so Susanoo's attacks aren't getting through.

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Now that I think of it, I'm not sure whether Ranshinshou requires a physical contact or not. If it does, I take my argument back. If it doesn't Tsunade could easily fire it off when close enough to Sasuke and his Susanoo.
 
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The Madara who faced the Gokage is weaker then the current Madara.

I forgot how we even came upon this subject, but yes the version of Madara that fought the Gokage was weaker, but his speed should still be the same. And he did not use his full speed. ._.
 

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Nattana just said Rashinsho works through Susano'o.

I think someone should lead us in a prayer dedicated to his troubled, troubled soul.

It isn't too late Nattana, you can still realise how utterly handicapped you are.
 

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And? Sound, light, air get through Susanoo. Electric waves would do that as well

Please, even the V1 Susanoo protected Sasuke from breathing Mei's acid mist.
Not to mention the Ranshinso isn't a long ranged technique.
 

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1 Fire Sealing Scroll against a guy who can literally spam large amounts of Amaterasu via Enton with no drawbacks? I hope you aren't serious. That'll only save him once, and that's assuming he isn't the on fire while doing it.



-SM durability isn't prolonging Amaterasu's burning by any significant amount of time, not when they still get pierced by chakra rods, nor can Jiraiya remove it more than once since he only has 1 Fire Sealing Scroll (Feats) and its not re usable.

-Byakugo offers healing, and would work if they could continuously remove the flames, but they can't so she'll die eventually.

Oro is the only one who can remove the flames without fail due to Oral Rebirth, but he definitely isn't going to beat Sasuke once the other two have fallen, nor is he going to survive with Oral Rebirth alone when a touch from an Enton Weapon is enough to force him to use it, and he can spam now.


AGreed.


With Susanoo it definitely is.


Agreed.



Now this must be the joke part of your post right here.

-lol if you think Shadow Sleeve Snakes are going to restrain a level 3 or 4 Susanoo, not when he can just burn it up, cut them down as they come to restrain the Susanoo, or simply break free.

-Mud gets hard as it heats up, and what can Sasuke use without drawbacks? Oh wait, Amaterasu. He simply heats up the area he is stuck in, hardens it, and jumps free with legged Susanoo.

-lol. Tsunade needed help to break Madara's weakest Susanoo and has never put a scratch in any of his higher leveled Susanoo. Susanoo tanks her punch with no difficulty whatsoever and retaliates with Enton Blade to bisect and light her on fire, or it simply stabs her and lights her on fire.

-Frog Song is only going to paralyze him, Susanoo won't drop so Kusanagi gets tanked by it.
How do you know Fire sealing scroll is one use? You'll need to confirm this for me so i don't know about that...

Gaara used ( i think you refer to this stage as V3) externally, while he used sand internally to pull him out. Orochimaru's snakes were able to , what evidence that you have that it can't hold a susano'o with the added support of said susano'o being restrained in Swamp of the underworld? You'll honestly need to prove this assumption, that shadow sleeve snakes can't bind susano'o, to me.

You've also stated that he can burn or cut the snakes while they come through. Fair enough... However, how possible will that be with 3 sannin attacking from 3 possible angles? In fact, the same way shadow snakes can do it, jiraiya's . That already gives sasuke 2 angles he needs to protect from, if he chooses one, the other hits him. Now, you may entertain the idea that he can best both of these while being hindered by swamp... To that I also add in MA and PA. Sasuke's now by the high pitched sound and left to the whim of the sannin - In fact, I could also a right there and then, but I won't hit you with that one also. He isn't executing any jutsu to stop them from restraining him.

- Sure, he can hit the mud. However, with Frog song tearing his ears up, Jiraiya's hair and oro's snakes restraining him, and tsunade coming in like a hurricane, I doubt that will be his first worry. Remember, I never stated that they're using mud and that's that. The mud is simply added restraint. Oh, btw, The swamp doesn't necessarily need to be mud, . In this environment, it could be rock or sand depending on where sasuke stands. In which case, it's far worse for sasuke.

-Alright, I'll bite again. I don't like to just restate something my opponent claims is untrue. Therefore, now, I'll give you a different scenario. Instead of tsunade simply coming in on her own with a punch, it's now Oro's snakes, Jiraiya's toad's swords and tsunade's fists. As the last chapter showed, enough force susano'o and rip right through the user at the same time. The snakes tails + the frogs + tsunade are more than enough force for this. Now, I know you might try to claim "Oh, don't compare the 9 bijuu to blah blah", to that I raise you this. Tsunade on her own, in an isolated case, was able y. And, let's not forget that, unlike sakura who had a very charge punch along with the momentum of falling, tsunade did this off a simply straight jab. What happens when she drops a powered kick? Considering sasuke's immobile, there's nothing stopping her right now. In fact, tsunade's punches are far harder than any 1 or even 2 bijuu's tails... not to mention her kicks. That's of course, assuming you can provide me with a scan showing any bijuu making a massive crater in the ground?(not even the collective power of the 9 of them did this against madara)

- Well, I won't say frog song is going to drop his susano'o. However, Kabuto did prove to us that a loud enough sound (which is loud enough to paralyse) forces sasuke to release his susano'o... Seeing as frog song is so loud that it paralyses off of sheer noise, I don't see how he's keeping up susano'o. But, again, I'm not really going to use this as an argument much.
 

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I forgot how we even came upon this subject, but yes the version of Madara that fought the Gokage was weaker, but his speed should still be the same. And he did not use his full speed. ._.

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