you asked me if Neji was fast enough. I answered you that Neji is fast enough to strike 64 times in a matter of seconds and I explained how the 64 palms and the striking speed would help him countering Sasuke's attack. now I want from you the proof that Sasuke is fast enough to land Chidori before Neji can strike his arm
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-Bold isn't evidence.
-Underlined is false. You explained nothing, at least nothing accurate. But the reason is obvious:
sigh.. just how many times need I explain the whole thing again?
Neji needs to strike Sasuke's arm with a palm thrust and deflects Chidori, meaning that he needs to use his own striking speed.
now the question is... is Neji fast enough to strike Sasuke's arm before he manages to land Chidori?
Neji can strike 64 TIMES in a matter of SECONDS, so imagine the time he takes to strike once as he only needs to strike one time to disable Chidori and deflect Sasuke's arm. if he can strike 64 ****ing times in just a matter of few seconds so striking one time would even take a lesser time than a second, maybe even in just a glimpse. so Hell Yeah he is fast enough
just take a look again at his striking speed
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some extra points:
-Jabbing and striking Palm thrust are no different as both relate to the striking speed. if you can Jab fast you can strike with a palm thrust as fast. that is a fact
-striking in other direction only takes slightly more effort than striking straight. and don't forget that the user of the 64 palms strikes in a 64 different spots precisely
so this is what is going happen:
-Sasuke attempts a top speed charge with Chidori
-Neji strike fast his arm with precision and deflect it
now YOU give me a PROOF that Sasuke is FAST ENOUGH to land Chidori before Neji manages to strike his arm
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This has been addressed. You can't be taken seriously. Why? The reason is simple:
>you first asked me if Neji is fast enough to counter Chidori
>I said that he is fast enough to strike 64 times in a matter of seconds so he should be able to move his hands fast to counter
>you said that his striking speed is irrelevant and just because he can strike fast that doesn't mean he can counter as fast
>I explained how Neji countermeasures would be a strike with a palm thrust to Sasuke's arm to deflect his attack. so his striking speed is not irrelevant as you thought. and I posted the 64 palms scans to show how fast his striking speed is.
>you asked if it is fast enough to counter a top speed charge from Sasuke
>I asked you why it shouldn't be fast when he can strike 64 ****ing times in just a few seconds meaning that a one strike could be done very fast in lesser than a second and I asked you for a proof that Sasuke's speed is fast enough to thrust stab Neji before the latter can strike his arm
anyway I just want to add some points:
1st Gated Lee's attack speed>>>>>Base Lee's attack speed=Sasuke's attack speed.
-Sasuke getting ready to use Chidori would never be able to replicate Kn0 Naruto's feat on hindering Neji's rotation time. This is due to the fact that Sasuke would first need to activate his Jutsu then get some momentum and running space if he wants to use his full speed which means Neji would have ample time to dissect the purpose of his attack and get ready to use Kaiten by already expelling Chakra while Sasuke is charging Chidori at a distance.
-Beeline attacks like Chidori are easy to counter or avoid with Sasuke having a loophole due to being able to perceive the counter and/or the direction in which the enemy chooses to evade to so he can follow and nail them.
-If Lee said a beeline attack from himself would be easy to counter and avoid even at top speed then it means Neji can comfortably deal with a top speed beeline attack from him. Meaning that speed would never be an issue as its linear movement can be easily perceived and easily countered/avoided with Sasuke having the exact same attack speed as Base Lee, only with Sharingan Sasuke would be able to see Neji's counter which Lee wouldn't see.
-We already know that 1St Gated Lee's attack speed is much faster/quicker than Base Lee which is =Sasuke's attack speed, so even without Sharingan Lee still has the added speed and power boosts granted from releasing the 1st Gate but yet that speed still wasn't enough to catch a clean hit on Neji despite the 1st Gated boosting Lee's attack speed way beyond his normal attack speed which is = to Sasuke's attack/thrust speed.
-So the question is, would Sasuke without Precog be able to simply run up to and thrust stab Neji without the latter being able to do anything about it when he can safely counter a much faster level of attack speed?
>I said that he is fast enough to strike 64 times in a matter of seconds so he should be able to move his hands fast to counter
>you said that his striking speed is irrelevant and just because he can strike fast that doesn't mean he can counter as fast
>I explained how Neji countermeasures would be a strike with a palm thrust to Sasuke's arm to deflect his attack. so his striking speed is not irrelevant as you thought. and I posted the 64 palms scans to show how fast his striking speed is.
>you asked if it is fast enough to counter a top speed charge from Sasuke
>I asked you why it shouldn't be fast when he can strike 64 ****ing times in just a few seconds meaning that a one strike could be done very fast in lesser than a second and I asked you for a proof that Sasuke's speed is fast enough to thrust stab Neji before the latter can strike his arm
anyway I just want to add some points:
1st Gated Lee's attack speed>>>>>Base Lee's attack speed=Sasuke's attack speed.
-Sasuke getting ready to use Chidori would never be able to replicate Kn0 Naruto's feat on hindering Neji's rotation time. This is due to the fact that Sasuke would first need to activate his Jutsu then get some momentum and running space if he wants to use his full speed which means Neji would have ample time to dissect the purpose of his attack and get ready to use Kaiten by already expelling Chakra while Sasuke is charging Chidori at a distance.
-Beeline attacks like Chidori are easy to counter or avoid with Sasuke having a loophole due to being able to perceive the counter and/or the direction in which the enemy chooses to evade to so he can follow and nail them.
-If Lee said a beeline attack from himself would be easy to counter and avoid even at top speed then it means Neji can comfortably deal with a top speed beeline attack from him. Meaning that speed would never be an issue as its linear movement can be easily perceived and easily countered/avoided with Sasuke having the exact same attack speed as Base Lee, only with Sharingan Sasuke would be able to see Neji's counter which Lee wouldn't see.
-We already know that 1St Gated Lee's attack speed is much faster/quicker than Base Lee which is =Sasuke's attack speed, so even without Sharingan Lee still has the added speed and power boosts granted from releasing the 1st Gate but yet that speed still wasn't enough to catch a clean hit on Neji despite the 1st Gated boosting Lee's attack speed way beyond his normal attack speed which is = to Sasuke's attack/thrust speed.
-So the question is, would Sasuke without Precog be able to simply run up to and thrust stab Neji without the latter being able to do anything about it when he can safely counter a much faster level of attack speed?
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Bro, just stop. Typing more and more words without fixing the glaring issue in your argument doesn't help. You started asking for proof that your claim is false because you can't prove your own claim even though that's a logical fallacy as I've shown you. Yet you ignored that like you do best and continued repeating yourself. "he can strike 64 times in a few seconds so one strike takes less time" even though this doesn't show that he can counter Sasuke before Sasuke can hit him because you haven't factored Sasuke's own speed into this comparison and that's why your argument is idiotic and makes no sense.
"Neji can run 50m in one second, he blitzes Tsunade"
That's the same type of stupid argument you are using. Saying that because Neji can do something in X amount of time he can accomplish a feat that requires him to have enough of a superiority over the person he's in conflict with while ignoring the capabilities of said person.
Then we have the fact that whether or not you can classify a counter and 64 palms as a strike, they are fundamentally different forms of movement and that is a fact.
Anyone with the brain power above that of a Kindergartener would've understood these simple facts by now, but no, not you. :lol You'll argue for Neji even if a Sasuke fan put a gun to your stupid ass head.
The rest of your post is repeating stuff I already addressed and/or making pathetic excuses such as:
If Sasuke charges Neji from the distance Naruto charged him it is a wrap. There is no extremely large distance he has to start from. BS you are making up to prove your point. Neji couldn't full rotate or evade from that distance against Naruto so he won't against someone faster. Not to mention Chidori pierces Kaiten so why the hell are you even bringing this up?
Facts:
-You claimed that Neji can counter Chidori.
-You said it's because he can strike 64 times in a few seconds.
-You have failed to relate the striking of 64 palms to a counter where you use your hand to hit the side of the attacker's arm.
-You have failed to relate the speed at which Neji can do this to the speed the person is approaching him at.
-You also said it's because he can react to 1st Gated Lee who is > Base Lee=Sasuke in running speed.
-You have failed to show how reacting to 1st Gated Lee=Countering Sasuke.
-You have failed to address the multiple examples given that show why this logic is trash, such as Sasuke being able to react to the likes of Juubito but being unable to dodge KCM Naruto or Ay outright. One reaction against someone much faster doesn't give you the right to give whatever reaction you want to a character just because they are fighting a slower opponent. Shitty ass logic.
Then we have the stupid ass questions. This is a question you should've answered 5 pages ago. Not me. Where is Neji shown to counter, in the same manner you are claiming he'll counter Sasuke, a faster speed? Nowhere, because you are making bullshit up based on your fanboyish wet dreams about Neji's capabilities. We also have you trying to exaggerate the difference between 1st Gated Lee and Base Lee in speed even though the Manga does not even begin to show a difference worthy of saying ">>>>" or "way" faster. Stop using irrelevant descriptives to try and support your nonexistent point.
But what can I expect:
You already admitted you have no proof so I have no idea why you are still in this thread making posts. The above quote is all you'll get from this moment forward until you stop dancing around the fact you have no evidence for your claim.
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I didn't factor Sasuke's speed because there is nothing that suggests that Sasuke's speed which is = base Lee's speed is fast enough to thrust stab Neji when he didn't even acknowledge it as something worthy of a challenge
the reason that I keep asking for an evidence that proves that Sasuke is fast enough to thrust stab Chidori into Neji before the latter can strike his sidearm with his insane striking speed
I already explained that Neji's countermeasures would be a strike with a palm thrust to Sasuke's side arm. Two different movements but both relate to the striking speed where Neji is insanely fast at. and don't forget the fact that the 64 palms user strike in a 64 different spots on the body precisely meaning that all the strikes are not just straight strikes
Lol, you can stop idiot, all that you are doing is asking me for a proof for my claim. but you didn't support a one for yours, to begin with. just let me ask this again
give me one evidence that proves that Sasuke is fast enough to thrust stab Neji before the latter can strike his sidearm with his insane striking speed?
you forget that Sasuke would need the momentum for his attack, unlike Naruto who could unleash a powerful strike by just releasing the Chakra cloak. but that's irrelevant since I don't feel that I want to argue Chidori vs Kaiten.
I've already explained everything clearly
-Neji need to counter Sasuke's attack by striking his side arm with a palm thrust where he uses his own striking speed
-striking in other direction only takes slightly more effort than striking straight. but it is still striking
-his striking speed is insanely fast. so I asked for an evidence that proves that Sasuke's speed, a speed that he didn't acknowledge as something worthy of a challenge, is fast enough to thrust stab him before he could strike his side his arm with his insane striking speed.
you also ignored my points about how the Beeline attacks such as the one Sasuke would be using are easy to counter as stated by Lee and Sasuke doesn't have a precog here so he would need to react in real-time to Neji's insane striking speed
and his attack is just a linear movement. right before Chidori lands. Neji strikes his side arm with precision and GG
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:lol Nice try but I've literally addressed all this. I can literally go back to my previous posts and copy and paste material from there to address every single word in this post. You are just repeating the same stuff over and over again thinking it'll change anything. Thus this is all you get:
Go address the parts of my previous post where I addressed these claims or don't quote me again and let someone with at least half a brain take over.
And of course I'm not the only one who can see how ridiculous you sound. All because you know how foolish you'll look admitting Sasuke wins after wanking the hell out of Neji for 20 pages straight. Lmao gtfo son.
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like hell you did. where the **** did you address this
these are some main points that I addressed
"I already explained that Neji's countermeasures would be a strike with a palm thrust to Sasuke's side arm. Two different movements but both relate to the striking speed where Neji is insanely fast at. and don't forget the fact that the 64 palms user strike in 64 different spots on the body precisely meaning that all the strikes are not just straight strikes
-Neji need to counter Sasuke's attack by striking his side arm with a palm thrust where he uses his own striking speed
-striking in other direction only takes slightly more effort than striking straight. but it is still striking
-his striking speed is insanely fast. so I asked for an evidence that proves that Sasuke's speed, a speed that he didn't acknowledge as something worthy of a challenge, is fast enough to thrust stab him before he could strike his side his arm with his insane striking speed."
the rest are irrelvant
so a bunch of Sasuke fans and a one who loves sucking your **** have agreed with you. why I am not surprised
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like hell you did. where the **** did you adress this
these are some main points that I adressed
I already explained that Neji's countermeasures would be a strike with a palm thrust to Sasuke's side arm. Two different movements but both relate to the striking speed where Neji is insanely fast at. and don't forget the fact that the 64 palms user strike in a 64 different spots on the body precisely meaning that all the strikes are not just straight strikes
-Neji need to counter Sasuke's attack by striking his side arm with a palm thrust where he uses his own striking speed
-striking in other direction only takes slightly more effort than striking straight. but it is still striking
-his striking speed is insanely fast. so I asked for an evidence that proves that Sasuke's speed, a speed that he didn't acknowledge as something worthy of a challenge, is fast enough to thrust stab him before he could strike his side his arm with his insane striking speed.
so a bunch of Sasuke fans and a one who loves sucking your **** have agreed with you. why I am not surprised
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I addressed that in the first paragraph of my last post, in my post before that and in my post before that and of course, you guessed it, the post before that one as well. :lol You just won't acknowledge it because it's not the response you want to hear. Silly fanboy.
I addressed this. "Neji is very fast" isn't evidence that he can counter Sasuke. But of course you cannot support your point because:
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^terrible Analogy
I showed you how Neji has insane striking speed. and I explained how striking speed is necessary for Neji to counter Sasuke's attack. show me how Sasuke is fast enough to land Chidori before Neji manages to strike his sidearm with his insane striking speed
I showed you how Neji has insane striking speed. and I explained how striking speed is necessary for Neji to counter Sasuke's attack. show me how Sasuke is fast enough to land Chidori before Neji manages to strike his sidearm with his insane striking speed
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Perfect analogy. You can't prove your point so you are asking me to prove that it's false. :lol You explained nothing. You explained how Neji would go about it yet didn't explain how he's capable of doing so besides saying "he's very fast". :lol
The fact that you actually don't see what's wrong with your argument makes you special kind of stupid.
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Hmm, he admitted he has no proof yet he is still arguing....something's wrong with this picture
I already explained how he is fast enough to strike 64 times in a matter of seconds meaning that he is insanely fast at striking.
your question is.. is he fast enough to strike Sasuke's sidearm before Chidori lands?
I didn't forget Sasuke's speed. I know that he is also so fast. but what suggest that Sasuke footspeed is fast enough to land Chidori before Neji strike his sidearm?
that question is what is faster? Sasuke's speed? or Neji striking speed? that was my point and that's why your Analogy was very terrible
and BTW nice sig. I'll just concede. you win sir. nice talk
it would be still an intersting fight to see anyway
I am out
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Yes, you've shown that he's fast. That. Is. It.
I said support your claim. Simple as that.
Lmao and here we go again with the same stupid argument.
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Me: "Prove that Neji can counter"
You: "There is no proof that Sasuke is too fast for Neji to counter"
Quit trying to deflect the burden of proof to me. You claimed this so you prove it. Oh, wait. You can't:
Which is why you started this nonsense in the first place.
Irrelevant question to ask. The question is can Neji react fast enough to do so. Quit trying to make this "striking speed vs. running speed". :lol You claimed that as a response to Sasuke attacking Neji, Neji can counter. So just support that claim and stop making these stupid ass excuses every time you post.
So many dumbass questions he has but this guy never wants to provide any answers.
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only high diff or it could go either way if Neji managed to strike his sidearm with his striking speed before Chidori lands
it depends on which is faster Neji's striking speed or Sasuke's running/dashing speed as Neji can easily react to his speed which is = Lee's speed well enough to move his hands. so stop using that trash analogy
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