[VS] Sasuke vs Kakashi

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@Versta

Sasuke is not as fast as BSM Naruto. Not even close. Naruto becomes slower when he enters bijuu mode. That's with any bijuu transformation too. For example, bijuu Bee would be much slower than base bee or v2 Bee.
 

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@Versta

Sasuke is not as fast as BSM Naruto. Not even close. Naruto becomes slower when he enters bijuu mode. That's with any bijuu transformation too. For example, bijuu Bee would be much slower than base bee or v2 Bee.
Your act of thinking is not only extremely incoherent, but also fundamentally flawed too. If current Sasuke caught up with Jinchūriki Madara, reacted to Obito at the same time as Naruto and has displayed reaction and speed feats not only better than BSM Naruto but far, far better than Kakashi even in his current state. What you're also implying, is that Madara and Obito in their respective Jinchūriki forms are even slower than BSM Naruto.​
 
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Restrictions/Conditions: Sasuke has his sword, Kakashi has his Tanto from when he was a kid.

Scenario 1: Only 3 tomoe Sharingan for each of them.
Scenario 2: Kakashi has MS, Sasuke has EMS but only EMS Susanoo feats.
Scenario 1: With the help of Aoda, I see Sasuke overwhelming Kakashi. But summons aren't very useful at VotE and they'll just sink. Sasuke's hawk gets shot down by Kakashi's lightning wolf. With a water source, Kakashi gets the ranged advantage. Coupled with access to clones, raikiri>chidori and greater intelligence, I see Kakashi winning mid difficulty under these conditions.

Scenario 2: Sasuke can block Kakashi's line of sight pretty easily with a wall of black flames and proceed to spam enton which Kakashi can't avoid for the entire fight. If Kakashi tries to kamui the wall of black flames, he'll get worn down a bit allowing Sasuke to unleash susanoo arrows to put Kakashi in a quagmire where he'll be forced to use kamui until he dies of chakra exhaustion like what almost happened after Sasuke's fight with Danzo. All of Kakashi's basic elemental jutsus are useless as they can't scratch susanoo and aren't better than Sasuke's enton variants. Sasuke wins mid difficulty.
 

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Scenario 1: With the help of Aoda, I see Sasuke overwhelming Kakashi. But summons aren't very useful at VotE and they'll just sink. Sasuke's hawk gets shot down by Kakashi's lightning wolf. With a water source, Kakashi gets the ranged advantage. Coupled with access to clones, raikiri>chidori and greater intelligence, I see Kakashi winning mid difficulty under these conditions.

Scenario 2: Sasuke can block Kakashi's line of sight pretty easily with a wall of black flames and proceed to spam enton which Kakashi can't avoid for the entire fight. If Kakashi tries to kamui the wall of black flames, he'll get worn down a bit allowing Sasuke to unleash susanoo arrows to put Kakashi in a quagmire where he'll be forced to use kamui until he dies of chakra exhaustion like what almost happened after Sasuke's fight with Danzo. All of Kakashi's basic elemental jutsus are useless as they can't scratch susanoo and aren't better than Sasuke's enton variants. Sasuke wins mid difficulty.
Snakes are extremely proficient at swimming underwater [ - ].​
 
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Snakes are extremely proficient at swimming underwater [ - ].
Kakashi uses raikiri on the water itself, shocking and killing the snake. If it's above land it gets cut in half by lightning transmission. Like I said earlier. It's a non factor.
 

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Kakashi uses raikiri on the water itself, shocking and killing the snake. If it's above land it gets cut in half by lightning transmission. Like I said earlier. It's a non factor.
That amount of Raiton won't kill Aoda if it . It would only produce a small amount of shock - especially when the water reserves are that high. And that'd affect him too or he'd have to jump; which leaves an opening to Sasuke who can cut him with either Chidori Spear, Chidori Kusanagi or another variant.​
 

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Your act of thinking is not only extremely incoherent, but also fundamentally flawed too. If current Sasuke caught up with Jinchūriki Madara, reacted to Obito at the same time as Naruto and has displayed reaction and speed feats not only better than BSM Naruto but far, far better than Kakashi even in his current state. What you're also implying, is that Madara and Obito in their respective Jinchūriki forms are even slower than BSM Naruto.
Please refrain from this topic until you learn what a Bijuu transformation is please.
 

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That amount of Raiton won't kill Aoda if it . It would only produce a small amount of shock - especially when the water reserves are that high. And that'd affect him too or he'd have to jump; which leaves an opening to Sasuke who can cut him with either Chidori Spear, Chidori Kusanagi or another variant.
That was a weakened chidori, and raikiri>chidori. And no he can just run it on a kunai then throw it.
 

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Sasuke wins both cant belive people are trying to debate this

Firstly he is faster than kakashi better at taijutsu and kenjutsu should not be debated if kakashi trys a he is roasted with sasuke's kakashi raikiri dog will have no effect on sasuke because all it does is shock you he's been shown to withstand that form of attack from same with kakashi so only piercing force lighting type attack will work on either. Sasuke's shuriken rigged will be to much of a problem especially if he uses ration on them this would also take out an abundance of clones pressuring kakashi with taijutsu while using kenjutsu makes that easier for sasuke was well using his curse mark makes the win easy Manda & Aoda should not even be brought up in the situation or its a stomp.

@BenjerminGaye, getting mad because we're using sasuke summonings and a vs battle terrible because it it would work in your favor you would do it two.

Scenario 2. Should not even be debated at 100m kamui isnt sniping a thing sasuke uses standing susanoo and kills him with a continuous fire of susanoo arrow's and magatamas
 

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Sasuke wins both cant belive people are trying to debate this

Firstly he is faster than kakashi better at taijutsu and kenjutsu should not be debated if kakashi trys a he is roasted with sasuke's kakashi raikiri dog will have no effect on sasuke because all it does is shock you he's been shown to withstand that form of attack from same with kakashi so only piercing force lighting type attack will work on either. Sasuke's shuriken rigged will be to much of a problem especially if he uses ration on them this would also take out an abundance of clones pressuring kakashi with taijutsu while using kenjutsu makes that easier for sasuke was well using his curse mark makes the win easy Manda & Aoda should not even be brought up in the situation or its a stomp.

@BenjerminGaye, getting mad because we're using sasuke summonings and a vs battle terrible because it it would work in your favor you would do it two.

Scenario 2. Should not even be debated at 100m kamui isnt sniping a thing sasuke uses standing susanoo and kills him with a continuous fire of susanoo arrow's and magatamas
Getting mad? I just gave 2 examples on how adoa isn't a factor. Kakashi removes him easily.
 

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That was a weakened chidori, and raikiri>chidori. And no he can just run it on a kunai then throw it.
chidori wasit weakened dont know where you got that from raikiri isnt that much stronger than chidori i hate when people try to exaggerate the difference between the to as versta said with there being such a large body of water it will have an even less effect Aoda & Manda cruises right through
 

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chidori wasit weakened dont know where you got that from raikiri isnt that much stronger than chidori i hate when people try to exaggerate the difference between the to as versta said with there being such a large body of water it will have an even less effect Aoda & Manda cruises right through
It wasn't weakened? Is that why it didn't pierce b's skin?
I could care less how you hate it. It wouldn't be ranked higher if it wasn't stronger.
Large body of water? Bro it's a river. And manda isn't listening to him.
 

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Getting mad? I just gave 2 examples on how adoa isn't a factor. Kakashi removes him easily.
Not getting mad just saying stop complaining about someone's ability and just counter it.

He has Aoda and manda they easily dodge by moving underwater or underground at high speed further more they are way to big to be choped in half by it plus the with of their mouths can be open wide or long enough to swallow other boss summonings add to the fact that sasuke will be actively fighting kakashi this is a stomp in sasuke's favor
 

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It wasn't weakened? Is that why it didn't pierce b's skin?
I could care less how you hate it. It wouldn't be ranked higher if it wasn't stronger.
Large body of water? Bro it's a river. And manda isn't listening to him.
they still wanted bee alive why would he drive chidori right through his chest but it doesnt matter because the effect of the lighting was small raikiri may be stronger but it isnt that much stronger Those snakes are like 400 feet long with a giant body mass aswell raikiri to the water aint shit to them. Thats whats genjutsu for to put manda in place
 

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Not getting mad just saying stop complaining about someone's ability and just counter it.

He has Aoda and manda they easily dodge by moving underwater or underground at high speed further more they are way to big to be choped in half by it plus the with of their mouths can be open wide or long enough to swallow other boss summonings add to the fact that sasuke will be actively fighting kakashi this is a stomp in sasuke's favor
1. He doesnt have manda
2.u underestimate raiden.
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That was a weakened chidori, and raikiri>chidori. And no he can just run it on a kunai then throw it.
There's no such thing as 'weakened Chidori'. Also, what Kakashi needs in this case is stronger electrical current. All Raikiri is, is more focused and concentrated electricity, that forms a perfect blade, while Chidori is a bit more unstable punch. Even if you refute that fact, Killer Bee and Suigetsu are smaller and have less durability than Aoda, who is a giant snake.

That Kunai would be discharged by the water and .​
 

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1. He doesnt have manda
2.u underestimate raiden.
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why doesnt he have manda?

that is no where near the size of boss summonings plus the snakes are insanly fast blitzing katsuya & bunta also sasuke would counter that with katons. now bring on your next argument
 

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they still wanted bee alive why would he drive chidori right through his chest but it doesnt matter because the effect of the lighting was small raikiri may be stronger but it isnt that much stronger Those snakes are like 400 feet long with a giant body mass aswell raikiri to the water aint shit to them. Thats whats genjutsu for to put manda in place
Exactly. He weakened his chidori so he wouldn't kill him. Case closed.

400 feat long? speculation. Besides it doesn't matter since he's cutting it by width.
All he has to do is run a powerful current into the water. Jump starting the snakes heart.
 
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