Bro, welcome back.Sasuke fucks him up
EMS Sasuke could keep up with Juubito, lol.Itachi wins this. EMS Sasuke couldn't keep up with Kabuto and it was Itachi who did 80% of the work in that battle.
EMS Sasuke could keep up with Juubito, lol.
Moving on,
Tsukuyomi was already countered.
Kagatsuchi makes Amaterasu useless and Sasuke has better control of it.
Kirin destroys the Susanoo.
Sasuke zero diffs.
What has Kyubi Chakra got do with Reaction speed? Maybe Jugo's cursemark helped him but it's not like the sharingan didn't do anything because Hebi Sasuke cannot keep up with Juubito. Itachi is anyways much slower than Juubito.He kept up with it up with Juubito because Naruto transferred a portion of the Kyubii to him and had Jugo's cursemark as well and last time I checked Itachi already tanked the Kirin with the Susanoo when he let Sasuke win their battle.
In that fight, Sasuke was not accustomed to using EMS probably. He also kept up with EMS Madara who blitzed SM Naruto minutes before.When Sasuke had the EMS he had a hard time keeping up with Kabuto and Itachi did 80% of the work in that battle not to mention Sasuke almost got captured.
The Kyubii enhanced everything the Shinobis had in the war. Kakashi even stated this when Naruto and Kurama were transferring to everyone and senjutsu enhances a user's ability as well. You clearly need rewatch the fight between Sasuke and Itachi because Itachi activated the Susanoo after Sasuke used the Kirin and he didn'tWhat has Kyubi Chakra got do with Reaction speed? Maybe Jugo's cursemark helped him but it's not like the sharingan didn't do anything because Hebi Sasuke cannot keep up with Juubito. Itachi is anyways much slower than Juubito.
His Susanoo got destroyed. His susanoo could not tank kirin. One successive attack and he would be dead. Hebi Sasuke didn't have anything but EMS does have his arrows and amaterasu.
In that fight, Sasuke was not accustomed to using EMS probably. He also kept up with EMS Madara who blitzed SM Naruto minutes before.
Scan?The Kyubii enhanced everything the Shinobis had in the war. Kakashi even stated this when Naruto and Kurama were transferring to everyone and senjutsu enhances a user's ability as well. You clearly need rewatch the fight between Sasuke and Itachi because Itachi activated the Susanoo after Sasuke used the Kirin and he didn't
EMS Sasuke didn't blitz Madara. That was Rinnegan Sasuke who did that. When EMS Sasuke fought Madara he was stabbed by his own sword and was on the verge of death.
I said he kept up with Madara when Madara got revived.Scan?
What's your point? It's not like Itachi could survive Kirin without using Susanoo. He literally said he survived because of Susanoo. So, that means, Kirin definitely connected with Susanoo.
You clearly didn't watch the fight because the Susanno
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When I said scan, I meant about Kakashi stating that Kyuubi Chakra increases the reaction speed or rather everything as you said.
You must be registered for see linksItachi used Susanoo to save himself from Kirin.
Sasuke got stabbed because of the invisible Limbo, but he was able to keep up with him when he got revived but yes, I agree with Madara holding back.
I double checked. You were right when you said that Madara used limbo on EMS Sasuke in chapter 361, but he still could've killed him back in chapter 358 when he was blind, but didn't because he wanted to give Sasuke a chance to join him.When I said scan, I meant about Kakashi stating that Kyuubi Chakra increases the reaction speed or rather everything as you said.
You must be registered for see linksItachi used Susanoo to save himself from Kirin.
Sasuke got stabbed because of the invisible Limbo, but he was able to keep up with him when he got revived but yes, I agree with Madara holding back.
When I said scan, I meant about Kakashi stating that Kyuubi Chakra increases the reaction speed or rather everything as you said.
You must be registered for see linksItachi used Susanoo to save himself from Kirin.
Sasuke got stabbed because of the invisible Limbo, but he was able to keep up with him when he got revived but yes, I agree with Madara holding back.
Kakashi never said Kyubi chakra increased his reactions. He said he has become "strong" which equates to strength and not better reactions. Even when Naruto gained Kyubi Chakra during part 1 against Haku, Neji, or even Sasuke, I don't remember being able to react to attacks that he was not able to before.I double checked. You were right when you said that Madara used limbo on EMS Sasuke in chapter 361, but he still could've killed him back in chapter 358 when he was blind, but didn't because he wanted to give Sasuke a chance to join him.
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Sry it was chapter 657
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Edit: I meant chapters 661 and 658
It was obvious that it increased their speed because the entire shinobi alliance had all of their abilities enhanced when Naruto passed the Kyubii towards. When the Kyubii leaked out against Haku, Neji and Sasuke in the Final Valley Part 1 they all said Naruto's speed was increasing.Kakashi never said Kyubi chakra increased his reactions. He said he has become "strong" which equates to strength and not better reactions. Even when Naruto gained Kyubi Chakra during part 1 against Haku, Neji, or even Sasuke, I don't remember being able to react to attacks that he was not able to before.
Yes, Juugo's Chakra helped. I don't deny that but not much. It's not like Hebi Sasuke can react to Juubito. So, EMS is the major factor due to which it increased. Itachi's speed is anyways not Juubito level, so he doesn't need Juugo's chakra anyway to react to Itachi.
Sasuke can use Kirin anyway without prep because he was going to use it on team 7 at the start of Shippuden. It's just that he had no chakra left so he relied on natural lightning. Itachi's susanoo got destroyed because of Kirin. Itachi himself said so. There is no reason that Itachi would let himself touch Kirin and there is no reason that he would tank it. Kirin destroyed the entire Uchiha hideout. Itachi can't tank it without the Susanoo, plain and simple. Shoot arrows on that Itachi and he is dead.
For the Kirin to work to it's fullest effect Sasuke needs rain. If it was going to be the same amount of damage when he used it at Orochimaru's hideout then using the dragon flame jutsu to help create the rain would've been pointless. Itachi doesn't neeed to blitz EMS Sasuke nor does he need to have it last forever because of the Totsuka Blade and Infinite Tsukuyomi and since EMS Sasuke didn't accept who he was at the time Itachi could use the Izanami on him. Rewatch the battle because Itachi already blocked the Kirin with the Susanoo and he didn't even go to the full version until after the Kirin was used.Forget the reaction speed debate.
We don't know that the Kirin that Sasuke was going to use against Team 7 will be weaker because he never showed it. Itachi didn't tank it. His susanoo got destroyed. One more consecutive attack and he would have been dead.
Itachi let Sasuke win, that doesn't mean that Itachi would go out of way to just tank Kirin with his body or act as if the Susanoo got destroyed but actually it didn't. Itachi was holding back against Sasuke as he could have killed him with Amaterasu anytime.
I am not taking Itachi's susanoo, Sasuke has the capability of destroying it. One fire style jutsu is all it takes to perform Kirin, there is nothing that Itachi can do this time to prevent Kirin while Sasuke is sitting inside his Susanoo. Not to mention, Itachi can't maintain Susanoo forever, but Sasuke can keep up for a larger amount of time since he has EMS and is Indra's reincarnate and has better chakra reserves.
Itachi can't blitz him outright. Since we already know that Susanoo got destroyed by Kirin, one Enton arrow will finish him. Sasuke stomps.