Oh I finally understand why so many people think Sasuke would win with little difficulty... This is the Sasuke that fought Naruto at the end of 698.. He dosen't have Human path.. He only has what he showed in battle.. This is not future Sasuke who had time to master his rinnengan Jutsu..
Sasuke vs Hashirama,Tobirama,Minato and Kabuto
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He has a higher form of the Rinnegan than Madara.. A higher form of the Rinnegan Obito used, and Obito could use Human Path without any "training".. Sasuke's Rinnegan awakened through the power of Hagoromo himself.. And he cannot use one of the most basic Rinnegan abilities? Even though he could use another one just as basic, Preta Path?
This is my last post because I can't handle your stupidity.
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Most definitely not. Madara's best feat is cutting Mountains, no reason to believe he can cut rocks that completely dwarf Mountains. If Madara could cut those rocks, that'd put his PS's strength far above that of what SS took from PS Kurama, meaning he would have destroyed SS, but he didn't.
There's also the fact Sasuke uses Rikudo's Chakra and Madara doesn't.
When Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo sword was cutting the CT's orbs, it was creating no shockwave around it which means that it was only cut by the normal reach of the sword in multiple pieces and i think the reach of that sword wasn't bigger than Madara's, more like the contrary since it has been demonstrated before that Madara's Perfect Susanoo was bigger, so Rikudo chakra or not, i doubt that feat was impossible for Madara
I agree that Sasuke have a better rinnengan than Madara and Obito.. We have no ideal how long Madara had his rinnengan before giving it to Nagato and we know Obito had his at least two days before the war started and the war lasted three days. That gives Obito five days to learn rinnengan Jutsu compare that to Sasuke who had maybe a hour or two.. If you can't understand basic logic and common sense please don't respond because I will report insults..
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Kidgamer. You are one of the few people here that i respect but i see you are overestimating naruto/sasuke.
One swing of Madara's PS sword managed to obliterate the meteors and still had enough strength to cut clean through 2 mountains.
Now that was the feat of 1 sword.
If you look at Sasuke's susanoo here it was wielding two susanoo swords
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But you see, Madara's at vote was also wielding 2 swords and it did twice as much damage to the surroundings than 1 sword.
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Another thing is that apart from the meteor that made contact with Madara's susanoo sword, the 2 mountain slicing agains't the kages with 1 sword or 5 or 6 mountain slicing with 2 swords agains't hashirama, neither were direct contact, Madara's sword didn't make contact with the mountains
Sasuke feats. His swords did make contact with CT.
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If Madara's swords can generate this much energy to slice through mountains without physical contact surely this is enough to say that, he can replicate Sasuke's susanoo feats with two swords.
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The meteors JJ Madara created were bigger than the ones Edo Madara created(Naruto even said that):
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Which could be understandable considering he had Rikudo Power. I do think however that Madara could still replicate that feat regardless considering Sasuke manage to do so only using the reach of his swords which are smaller than Madara'sRikodou Mode
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Tobirama and Minato solo glanced within seconds. Both of them and Kabuto already trapped in chibaku tensei before the battle even starts. 
Also, Sasuke's Katon/Amaterasu and Raiton counter Hashi's mokuton with ease. U_U His PS and 5 elements counter the buddha statue, and 6 paths should be enough to defeat Hashirama in around 10minutes (after soloing the others)
P.S : If Sasuke has limbo then he solos all of them at once including Hashirama within 5 minutes. Lol
Also, Sasuke's Katon/Amaterasu and Raiton counter Hashi's mokuton with ease. U_U His PS and 5 elements counter the buddha statue, and 6 paths should be enough to defeat Hashirama in around 10minutes (after soloing the others) P.S : If Sasuke has limbo then he solos all of them at once including Hashirama within 5 minutes. Lol
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Minato can escape the solo glance with the help of Kurama.. Then teleport Kabuto and Tobirama out of CT. Shinsuusenju destroyed a Susanoo Kyuubi it wouldn't have much of a problem with just Susanoo...Tobirama and Minato solo glanced within seconds. Both of them and Kabuto already trapped in chibaku tensei before the battle even starts.
P.S : If Sasuke has limbo then he solos all of them at once including Hashirama within 5 minutes. Lol
No Sasuke don't have limbo, this is Sasuke at the end of 698.
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-PS can obliterate meteorites the size of cities, tell me how a buddha statue will handle that
-Sasuke isn't careless with genjutsu, he knows when to use it at the right moment and it's on a level beyond Indra's who Hashirama is equal to
-Lol no. If bijuu can't overpower it what makes you think a clone can ? Also, how does Hashirama stop himself from being a magnet ?
-If it's countered by Hiraishin then how did JJ Madara not avoid being stabbed despite being way faster ? Sasuke can swap any object of any size so the opponent can't predict what he will use Ameno on. For all we know he can swap a sword with a leaf laying on Hashi's blind spot.
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His brain functions stupidly compared to human brain functioning. There is no saving him, sadly.
OT: OP, this isn't a match; it's a rape. The Hokage are vastly inferior in every way in front of Sasuke's arsenal. The gap in power and versatility the Rikudou power offers to Sasuke outmatches the Hokage.
Firstly - none of them can put any effort to damage Sasuke's full power (PS). The same full power that cut Madara's meteors, which took massive proportions of the land-scape, enough to dwarf multiple mountain ranges. It is also the same full power that went toe to toe against Bijuu Mode boosted by Rikudou's Chakra. Hashirama's God Gates maybe able to hold down PS, but the latter dodges it with its flight capacity.
Secondly - Minato's and Tobirama's FTG combo will pale to Amenotejikara. Both Tobirama and Minato were bested by Madara in CQC, while Sasuke could keep up with Madara via Amenotejikara. This is because Madara had no knowledge of Sasuke's Rinnegan technique, even though he could react to them. So in CQC alone, Sasuke will win as well.
Thirdly - I won't be going in detail about his Six Paths as he's still inexperienced, but Chibaku Tensei enhanced by the Yin Chakra of Rikudou can surely have close size proportion to Madara's CT. If dropped on the Hokage, they die like the Alliance were from Tengai Shensei.
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Madara's PS blades did make physical contact with SS, as seen in the panel:
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You could see the blade running through the arm construction, and all were being shattered. Beside that, the chunk of CT, when scaled with SS, the difference in size is quite clear.
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Having been giving the Yin Chakra of Hagoromo would put bless Sasuke's PS with a huge raw power, dwarfing Madara's PS raw power. Even Kurama's Chakra does not compare to that. If Sasuke's PS made physical contact with SS, it would cut the entire construction completely.
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Sasuke can prevent a jinchuuriki from using the bijuu's chakra with his sharingan (he did it to Naruto in part 1 at Orochimaru's lair). If he does that then Minato can't give chakra to Tobirama and Kabuto :l
Although you're right shinsuusenju has a chance.
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@Bronze, the scan you showed of Ps blades running through SS hands are unclear.
To me it looks like those were the ss arms striking/about to strike.
As for the damage you see in that scan. Its been said that the strikes are so hard that it destroys the hands.
Doesn't seem to be PS swords in sight, but also the destroying of those hands were of SS own making
To me it looks like those were the ss arms striking/about to strike.
As for the damage you see in that scan. Its been said that the strikes are so hard that it destroys the hands.
Doesn't seem to be PS swords in sight, but also the destroying of those hands were of SS own making
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@Blaze Release...
The scan quality of *********** and MangaPanda are poor, but if you need Viz to be clear, then I'll request one. Anyway, I highlighted what's to be focused at:
As you see from the red rectangle, look at the motion line of PS blade; it's running through the arms that's coming straight to its path, and all of them are being cut apart.
The scan quality of *********** and MangaPanda are poor, but if you need Viz to be clear, then I'll request one. Anyway, I highlighted what's to be focused at:
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As you see from the red rectangle, look at the motion line of PS blade; it's running through the arms that's coming straight to its path, and all of them are being cut apart.
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thats not what naruto said actually. juubi jin madaras "meteors" werent actual meteors, just CT that he dropped so a comparison to edo madaras meteors makes no sense as they are different techniques.
this is what naruto said in the VIZ.
Naruto: "They're bigger than Pain's... And lot more of 'em!!"
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take out the spaces.
sasuke cut up CT that were bigger than pains. that is all that can be confirmed statement wise.
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Thanks for that man, but I'm definitely not overestimating them...at least not here.
It only obliterated Edo Madara's Meteor, which wasn't even as large as PS let alone as large as a Mountain, and then we have the two Mountains.
True.
True, he was using two swords, but that damage was from only one sword, not two swords as he only swung one of them. Still, that feat is nowhere near the meteor feat.
True.
I'm aware he shot multiple TBB + blades, but that wasn't my point. The motion lines on the highlighted parts shows you that it was running through the SS arms, which means Madara's PS made physical contact.
The meteor he shattered had already been collapsed...well most of it collapsed due to being collided with two meteors. [
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] So cutting the remaining of Tengai Shinsei isn't really that impressive to be compared to Sasuke's. And have you also forgotten that Tengai Shinsei was produced by Edo Madara, who lacked most of his power as Tensei compared to living counterpart, and also had fake Rinnegan? The meteor Sasuke's PS cut were produced from Madara possessing the full Chakra of Rikudou, as well as his real functioning Rinnegan. So there is the difference between that.And you haven't seen the panel of SS being scaled to the chopped up rocks of CT? That is the difference in size between two Jutsu and difference in performance between EMS Madara's PS and Rinnegan Sasuke's PS.
With that being said, I don't believe EMS Madara can replicate Sasuke's feat. But if you refer to Rinnegan Madara, then yes, I agree on that.
It doesn't really matter how many times he needed to swing his blade. What matters is he chopped it, and most likely did it in two swings.
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we can see here that the CT were the same size as the roots of the god treee,
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and we can also see that Sasukes PS is not even visible infront of the meteors
here we can also see that some meteors are larger than the others, being even larger than the root of the god tree,
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hell even nagatos CT dwarves mountains, as shown below
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now compare madaras PS to mountains
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and sasukes PS to the meteors
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just goes to show how large the meteors really are
people seriously need to realise how large the meteors really were,
not to mention that a CT is alot more durable then a mere rock of the same size,
therefore emphasising the power of rikudo PS even more,
had madara been in that scenario, he wouldnt have survived at all