Sasuke Vs Garra

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can he counter sasuke speed blitzing him like he did at the chunin exams? can his sand which is earth style stop a chidori to the chest which is lightning style and your still speculating if naruto lost the kyubbi he wouldnt be half as good if killer bee lost the hachibi he wouldnt be half as good but garra can just lose a shit load of chakra and be better then before? hell no he is not as good as he was when he fought deidara and until i see manga proof that he is better now your argument is speculation o and he became kazekage while he had the shukaku
But he never used Shukaku! There was a whole filler arc about that before the time skip. After the Leaf attack he wanted to prove that he could be strong with out Shukaku! He hadn't bonded with Shukaku like Naruto and Bee have with the eight and nine tails. You can't miss what you never had. Your comparing two different things. And with the speed and the chidori stuff. Yes he could. All he has to do is go into that sand dome, a much bigger, thicker sand dome this time and use the third eye. He could fight at his lesuier in there. And hell yes he is better than he was when fighting Diedara. Which once again shall I reiterate that he only lost so he could save his village! There is plenty of manga proof. Go look at all the battles he has had since then. It's obvious he has gotten better.
 

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But he never used Shukaku! There was a whole filler arc about that before the time skip. After the Leaf attack he wanted to prove that he could be strong with out Shukaku! He hadn't bonded with Shukaku like Naruto and Bee have with the eight and nine tails. You can't miss what you never had. Your comparing two different things. And with the speed and the chidori stuff. Yes he could. All he has to do is go into that sand dome, a much bigger, thicker sand dome this time and use the third eye. He could fight at his lesuier in there. And hell yes he is better than he was when fighting Diedara. Which once again shall I reiterate that he only lost so he could save his village! There is plenty of manga proof. Go look at all the battles he has had since then. It's obvious he has gotten better.
Dont watch the fillers cause there non cannon alot of times but either way ill give you garras power now equaling his power when he had the shukaku though this is pure speculation and high unbelievable the end result will still be the same earth style is weak against lightning style if garra uses that sand ball even if its size is doubled or tripled or whatever a kirin will end garra easily if he is inside a sand ball just as sasukes chidori ripped through his sand ball in part 1 a kirin will do the same except garra will die psst and sasuke could use kirin before ems
 
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Dont watch the fillers cause there non cannon alot of times but either way ill give you garras power now equaling his power when he had the shukaku though this is pure speculation and high unbelievable the end result will still be the same earth style is weak against lightning style if garra uses that sand ball even if its size is doubled or tripled or whatever a kirin will end garra easily if he is inside a sand ball just as sasukes chidori ripped through his sand ball in part 1 a kirin will do the same except garra will die psst and sasuke could use kirin before ems
:sy: I can not reason with you apparently. I name you fanboy and wash my hands of this weirdness. I am not saying that Garra would win 100% of the time. I think he would win like 60% of the time. Anyone one who could view this with a logical mind could see that. He is a great match up for Sasuke. He would have to watch out. But again. I wash my hands of this weirdness. But as a parting gift I give you this.
 

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Sasuke would obviously beat Gaara but the way you put it is firstly going to offend the Gaara fanboys and also make you look like a bad Sasuke fanboy.
 

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Sorry but this is getting out of control. Sasuke EMS should counter BM Naruto...unless they decide to give Sasuke another upgrade. But yea, logically: Sasuke should be on par with Naruto. Naruto is obviously stronger than Gaara in pretty much every aspect.

Now let's use that logic again:

Susanoo : this gives Sasuke a huge advantage. Remember when a weaker susanoo and a much weaker Sasuke forced Kakashi to use Kamui? Of course you do. Now imagine Sasuke at full power and most likely a faster amaterasu arrow.
Tsukyiomi : Who would be expecting Sasuke to use genjutsu? Gaara usually fights focused on the opponent. Look at Gaara vs Sasuke at the summit.
Amaterasu : will use it on susanoo
New tech? EMS should bring something new to the table.

And people tend to reduce uchiha to 3 MS techniques and that's it. EMS is an upgrade now, which would mean Sasuke is faster, has a better eye-sight, perhaps even more chakra. Unless he fights Gaara in the desert, this is Sasuke's fight.
 

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:sy: I can not reason with you apparently. I name you fanboy and wash my hands of this weirdness. I am not saying that Garra would win 100% of the time. I think he would win like 60% of the time. Anyone one who could view this with a logical mind could see that. He is a great match up for Sasuke. He would have to watch out. But again. I wash my hands of this weirdness. But as a parting gift I give you this.
your not understanding the simple fact of lightning>>>earth so you call me a fanboy garra is clearly not beating sasuke your a fanboy if you honestly believe that ill admit it will be a nice fight but garra has no counter for genjutsu and sasuke is a top tier genjutsu user now so garras only option would be the sand dome and kirin will destroy that easily and leave garra dead whenever sasuke and garra fight the 1st thing he does is look at sauskes eyes in their fight in part 1 and in shippuden garra has looked in sasukes eyes trying to tell if there filled with haterd so sasuke whos using all his advantages would take notice of this and get him in a genjutsu and hes already fast enough to get around his sand with simple taijutsu so a fast paced chidori will rip through his absolute defence and kill him i just dont ever see garra winning it would be a very entertaining fight but sasuke takes this sorry bro :scorps: ima sasuke fan yes but when people say garra>sasuke i gotta defend my boii with facts
 

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Dude just ignore it. There are many haters, i mean we all knew nb hates uchiha in general, but especially sasuke. After the latest op technique that is an uchiha technique they hate has further increased.

Any logical neutral will say ems sasuke beats gaara
 

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Sorry but this is getting out of control. Sasuke EMS should counter BM Naruto...unless they decide to give Sasuke another upgrade. But yea, logically: Sasuke should be on par with Naruto. Naruto is obviously stronger than Gaara in pretty much every aspect.

Now let's use that logic again:

Susanoo : this gives Sasuke a huge advantage. Remember when a weaker susanoo and a much weaker Sasuke forced Kakashi to use Kamui? Of course you do. Now imagine Sasuke at full power and most likely a faster amaterasu arrow.
Tsukyiomi : Who would be expecting Sasuke to use genjutsu? Gaara usually fights focused on the opponent. Look at Gaara vs Sasuke at the summit.
Amaterasu : will use it on susanoo
New tech? EMS should bring something new to the table.

And people tend to reduce uchiha to 3 MS techniques and that's it. EMS is an upgrade now, which would mean Sasuke is faster, has a better eye-sight, perhaps even more chakra. Unless he fights Gaara in the desert, this is Sasuke's fight.
thank you ive been saying this the whole time theres no way garra is better in any aspect this fight could end with just one genjutsu
 

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Dude just ignore it. There are many haters, i mean we all knew nb hates uchiha in general, but especially sasuke. After the latest op technique that is an uchiha technique they hate has further increased.

Any logical neutral will say ems sasuke beats gaara
your right bro i saw a thread saying garra is the perfect counter to the ms so i had to speak out on this
 

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OP is wrong.

Gaara IS stronger now that he doesn't have the 1 tails.

The 1 tails was constantly trying to take over Gaara, and that's why Gaara couldn't sleep.

He now has his full focus without the 1 tails.

As was said before, Susanoo DOES NOT WORK AGAINST GAARA.... He pulled MADARA ****ing UCHIHA out of his Susanoo....madara is more powerful and more experienced than susuke.

Also, Gaara was able to use his sand at the KAGE summit to block sasukes Amaterasu...so we know that it won't work against Gaara.

Lastly, Gaara has protection from genjutsu thanks to the third eye he can summon.

Gaara wouldnt walk over sasuke, but he has a counter to sasukes most powerful moves, and that includes Susanoo arrows because Gaara can instantly create sand barriers that were strong enough to stop Madaras attacks....


OP is a fanboi
 
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how is that possible do you have a link cause i would love to see how losing a bijuu made him stronger
Nobody says loosing bijuu make stronger, you change the meaning of their words. They say gaara is stronger now than he was at time he had bijuu. The way he got stronger isnt discussed, but its obvious that he really is. Still i think sasuke take this one and my reason is susanoo's arrow. I think its too much for gaaras sand to handle
 
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idk it would be a good match to watch.
Ameratsu= ineffective/garra auto blocks
Tsukuyomi= effective but hard to pull off because of eye contact(garra has third eye)
Susanoo= effective but not impossible because Madera was pulled out by Garra
Karin= innefective because of build up(no longer a problem for sasuke since he can spam ameratsu) needed and garra's wind jitsuHowever Sasuke is much faster, has a wider range of tactics aka ameratsu aerow, has powerful fire jitsu's and has the ability to summon hawks for mobility.
It would be close
Kirin cannot be countered by wind jutsu due to it being natural lightning, not chakra lightning. if he was able to set up Kirin, Gaara would have to create a large sand barrier to dissipate the energy. That sand would then be turned to glass... which would be pretty cool in all honetsty. Sasuke takes this with mid to high difficulty as he is now.
 

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OP is wrong.

Gaara IS stronger now that he doesn't have the 1 tails.

The 1 tails was constantly trying to take oer Gaara, and that's why Gaara couldn't sleep.

He now has his full focus without the 1 tails.

As was said before, Susanoo DOES NOT WORK AGAINST GAARA.... He pulled MADARA ****ing UCHIHA out of his Susanoo....madara is more powerful and more experienced than susuke.

Also, Gaara was able to use his sand at the KAGE summit to block sasukes Amaterasu...so we know that it won't work against Gaara.

Lastly, Gaara has protection from genjutsu thanks to the third eye he can summon.

Gaara wouldnt walk over sasuke, but he has a counter to sasukes most powerful moves, and that includes Susanoo arrows because Gaara can instantly create sand barriers that were strong enough to stop Madaras attacks....


OP is a fanboi
Gaara cant pull sasuke out of his susanoo without the help of onoki. Gaara did not block Amaterasu from sasuke eye he blocked sasuke enton from his susanoo ribs and yes gaara can be put into a genjutsu
 

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OP is wrong.

Gaara IS stronger now that he doesn't have the 1 tails.

The 1 tails was constantly trying to take over Gaara, and that's why Gaara couldn't sleep.

He now has his full focus without the 1 tails.

As was said before, Susanoo DOES NOT WORK AGAINST GAARA.... He pulled MADARA ****ing UCHIHA out of his Susanoo....madara is more powerful and more experienced than susuke.

Also, Gaara was able to use his sand at the KAGE summit to block sasukes Amaterasu...so we know that it won't work against Gaara.

Lastly, Gaara has protection from genjutsu thanks to the third eye he can summon.

Gaara wouldnt walk over sasuke, but he has a counter to sasukes most powerful moves, and that includes Susanoo arrows because Gaara can instantly create sand barriers that were strong enough to stop Madaras attacks....


OP is a fanboi
The amount of bias in this post is too damn high!

Where to start? Oh yes: the most ridiculous assumption: "Gaara has protection from genjutsu thanks to the third eye he can summon." - what? How many times did Gaara use that in a fight? Genjutsu takes 0.00000000001 seconds and that takes ... how long? Let's assume it takes longer and face the fact that Gaara rarely uses it and wouldn't start a fight with that especially now.

"As was said before, Susanoo DOES NOT WORK AGAINST GAARA.... He pulled MADARA ****ing UCHIHA out of his Susanoo" -wasn't that a team effort? And either way. Gaara had the ground advantage... let's see Gaara do that in Kabuto's cave for example :)

"madara is more powerful and more experienced than susuke." - WRONG. Sasuke know more about Gaara than Madara does. FACT.

"Also, Gaara was able to use his sand at the KAGE summit to block sasukes Amaterasu...so we know that it won't work against Gaara." - I love how you assume Gaara gets stronger by the second, yet you would assume that a weakened version of MS Sasuke = a full powered version of EMS Sasuke. Good job on being neutral there.

"Gaara wouldnt walk over sasuke, but he has a counter to sasukes most powerful moves, and that includes Susanoo arrows because Gaara can instantly create sand barriers that were strong enough to stop Madaras attacks...." - No one knows how strong Sasuke's arrow is, but what we do know for sure is that each MS/EMS user has something unique about him. Itachi has his extremely strong tsukyiomi. Madara has a special susanoo. Sasuke has a strong amaterasu. And believe me, EMS just made it stronger...or how else will he be on par with Naruto? By talking to him to death? No. If you're insinuating a support character would be stronger than a main character (yes, Sasuke and Naruto are main because they are equal rivals) then you are more bias than the OP. Good day.
 

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Ive actually seen people saying garra will win but this is obviously not the case shukaku made garra stronger then he currently is now there is no denying that deidara destroyed garra with the shukaku inside him and sasuke beat deidara with a 3 tomoe sharingan he now has EMS 2 levels higher then when he beat deidara soo itd be safe to say garra with shukaku< 3 tomoe sasuke since garra with shukaku< deidara and deidara< 3 tomoe sasuke so garra lost power while sasuke gained power garra without shukaku is no match for sasuke with ems there is no way people stop posting this none sense his defence is not better then sussano and all his offensive moves will not penetrate an incomplete version of it ems sasuke>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current garra you could post a way garra could win but i could just simply post a way sasuke could win as well and sasuke has a much higher chance of victory :scorps: boii
I don't know how worth it this will be to disprove a fanboy but here we go...
a>b, b>c so c>a logic does not apply in this manga. is all on the matchup.
Shikaku, fox cloak, curse mark, were mostly season 1 buffs. Gaara got the kazekage title not for any power shikaku gave him but simply skill. So dont use Shikaku being gone as any advantage, the same could be said about curse mark sasuke.

Second point. his recent interactions against his father and madara show his growth. Lets break this down. Sasuke is Lightning and Fire affinity. Gaara would have no advantage over fire and blaze release other than being able to defend from the fire and get his sand turned to glass, but Amatetseru is easily beaten by gaaras sand, and has been before. gaara has "sand eye" for protection from genjutsu, and most importantly Gaara would have an advantage over what used to be his weakness against sasuke. lightning.
Example. In his fight against the previous mizukage he manipulated gold finally with his sand. This means he could use sand with gold to make any path on conductivity (sence gold is the most conductive element there is) to steer Sasukes Lightning attacks anywhere he wanted, including back at sasuke.
 

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As far as bad matchups for sasuke, Gaara is the worst.

His sand techs are direct counters to most of sasukes ms techs.

That is a fact.... It doesn't mean Gaara would stomp sasuke into the ground. It means Gaara would have an advantage. There is nothing "fanboy " about saying that.

If you can't admit that Gaara's techs would give sasuke a good fight, then your the true fanboy.....
 
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We obviously Have sasuke Fanboys in our presence . Sometimes just reading these threads some people make, make me laugh so much cause they make themselves look like complete *******s . Like really.
 
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As far as bad matchups for sasuke, Gaara is the worst.

His sand techs are direct counters to most of sasukes ms techs.

That is a fact.... It doesn't mean Gaara would stomp sasuke into the ground. It means Gaara would have an advantage. There is nothing "fanboy " about saying that.

If you can't admit that Gaara's techs would give sasuke a good fight, then your the true fanboy.....
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I love gaaras development in this story and his background far more than sasuke. and gaara fanboys are more toleratable than sasuke fanboys. But anyone who says Gaara wouldn't make sasuke sweat and give him a good run is so blindly baised.

Gaara would lose, but sasuke would need a 3 day nap, and therapy. lol (j/k)
 
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