Sasuke... Tsunade, really? of all people tsunade?

[Eternal Sage]

I don't see how Sasuke would know that Tsunade ordered search parties, as he broke contact with Konoha

 

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I don't see how Sasuke would know that Tsunade ordered search parties, as he broke contact with Konoha

So he's just ignorant and cocky

 

[Eternal Sage]

So he's just ignorant and cocky

Maybe he believes Tsunade needs to be sacrificed for the greater good of his plans. We don't know, as he hasn't explained yet

 

[WalksInShadows]

I don't see how Sasuke would know that Tsunade ordered search parties, as he broke contact with Konoha

whether you realize it or not, you're confirming Sasuke's ignorance. He had to have known the only way there would be a search party looking for him was if Tsunade made it happen, especially if he saw Naruto.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

DAfuq? are u really serious? .....
what kind of reasoning is that?

so, "OBAMA should die coz if only he ran for presidency earlier, he could have prevented the 911 attack by killing Bin Laden earlier."


are you like 10 years old?

I'm sure it's more likely that you're the 10 year old here judging by your response. People don't get killed for leaving a country without authorization in the real world, they just get deported. In NV, Tsunade ran away from Konoha but no assassins were sent after her, so how could she then send assassins after Sasuke. Also, Tsunade, as the last living descendent of Hashirama/Tobirama, had the duty to take over and make sure the village remains smooth running, but she didn't, instead, she ran away and allowed everything to degenerate. In law you get punished for 'not acting' as well, it's called culpable guilt, eg. Culpable Homicide, because you failed to act when the law placed a duty on you to act. How can you expect Sasuke to entrust the fate of the Village and the world to someone her after everything his family went through? She ran away from all responsibility and then came back to take the reigns as Hokage like nothing happened while she was away for goddamn over 12 years. There's no other way but for Sasuke to kill her, plus it also avenges the Uchiha against the Senju to kill the last one remaining, and it ends the comflict between the clans, a conflict that has affected the whole world. Sasuke is an avenger after all. I'm not saying what Sasuke is doing is right, just explaining the reasoning behind it. Whether it is right or not is another thing all together. It's hard to define right and wrong in the Naruto world because guess what, everyone there is an assassin who lives by the code. " steal, cheat, deceive, or do whatever it takes to complete your mission." Therefore right and wrong is a relative phrase in such a society, you can't just throw in Obama into the mix and expect the comparison to sit snugly

 

[Bantos]

I'm sure it's more likely that you're the 10 year old here judging by your response. People don't get killed for leaving a country without authorization in the real world, they just get deported. In NV, Tsunade ran away from Konoha but no assassins were sent after her, so how could she then send assassins after Sasuke. Also, Tsunade, as the last living descendent of Hashirama/Tobirama, had the duty to take over and make sure the village remains smooth running, but she didn't, instead, she ran away and allowed everything to degenerate. In law you get punished for 'not acting' as well, it's called culpable guilt, eg. Culpable Homicide, because you failed to act when the law placed a duty on you to act. How can you expect Sasuke to entrust the fate of the Village and the world to someone her after everything his family went through? She ran away from all responsibility and then came back to take the reigns as Hokage like nothing happened while she was away for goddamn over 12 years. There's no other way but for Sasuke to kill her, plus it also avenges the Uchiha against the Senju to kill the last one remaining, and it ends the comflict between the clans, a conflict that has affected the whole world. Sasuke is an avenger after all. I'm not saying what Sasuke is doing is right, just explaining the reasoning behind it. Whether it is right or not is another thing all together. It's hard to define right and wrong in the Naruto world because guess what, everyone there is an assassin who lives by the code. " steal, cheat, deceive, or do whatever it takes to complete your mission." Therefore right and wrong is a relative phrase in such a society, you can't just throw in Obama into the mix and expect the comparison to sit snugly

You do realize that she retired? She was just a woman traveling the world.
She wasn't a nukenin. :'D

 

[Torche]

For the simple fact that she wouldn't let him become Hokage. U_U

 

[Chatte]

Tsunade didn't do her job well enough. She isn't not what he envisions a Kage should be. Therefore he wants to remove her.

IF Tsunade had been doing her job "well", Sasuke Uchiha would've been DEAD by now...

 

[Yami no Kagutsuchi]

Doesnt matter if its Tsunade

 

[xxSAGExx]

I'm sure it's more likely that you're the 10 year old here judging by your response. People don't get killed for leaving a country without authorization in the real world, they just get deported. In NV, Tsunade ran away from Konoha but no assassins were sent after her, so how could she then send assassins after Sasuke. Also, Tsunade, as the last living descendent of Hashirama/Tobirama, had the duty to take over and make sure the village remains smooth running, but she didn't, instead, she ran away and allowed everything to degenerate. In law you get punished for 'not acting' as well, it's called culpable guilt, eg. Culpable Homicide, because you failed to act when the law placed a duty on you to act. How can you expect Sasuke to entrust the fate of the Village and the world to someone her after everything his family went through? She ran away from all responsibility and then came back to take the reigns as Hokage like nothing happened while she was away for goddamn over 12 years. There's no other way but for Sasuke to kill her, plus it also avenges the Uchiha against the Senju to kill the last one remaining, and it ends the comflict between the clans, a conflict that has affected the whole world. Sasuke is an avenger after all. I'm not saying what Sasuke is doing is right, just explaining the reasoning behind it. Whether it is right or not is another thing all together. It's hard to define right and wrong in the Naruto world because guess what, everyone there is an assassin who lives by the code. " steal, cheat, deceive, or do whatever it takes to complete your mission." Therefore right and wrong is a relative phrase in such a society, you can't just throw in Obama into the mix and expect the comparison to sit snugly

Well if you read the manga then you know that she was honorably discharged for all of her services and Jiraiya did the same. Sasuke and Orochimaru were the ones to leave without permission and that's why both can have death penalty from Konoha. If Tsunade is the last Senju then that means she lost all of her family (sure there's Uzumaki's scattered but that's not her parents, little brother, or her boyfriend. So she lost everything but she didn't leave for revenge or to kill those that killed her loved ones. Sasuke could have stayed in the village and went after Itachi when he was strong enough on an official mission and try to make the village a safer place so nothing like the Uchihas happen again, he might not know what officially happened but he could have use his past to help make the future better but he didn't.

Gaara had even more of a screwed up past but he changed for the better and is a key factor for making the alliance be an alliance. Others who lost their clans are Haku, Kimimaru, and Juugo but none of them actually chose to go down a dark path, they were found by bad people and were pretty much raised by them. Sasuke grew up in a village that liked him and acknowledge him as an elite for being an Uchiha and he had people who cared for him but severed those bonds.

 

[DarkStar1]

Yeah, Sasuke is an idiot. It's been covered many, many times in the manga.

 

[~Sky~]

It's not the person he cares about, what he cares about is what the person represents.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Kishi has ruined Sasuke's character.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It doesn't matter to Sasuke if Tsunade had good intentions for him in the past, that is irrelevant to him, all that matters to him is that she is a Kage and therefore must be eliminated.

 

[SuperChief]

Tsunade, Gaara and Mei are all moderates. Killing moderates tends to have the side effect of converting other moderates to extremists, e.g. World War I.

A and Ōnoki have reformed to moderates or were in the process of doing so, so ditto.

 

[Icelerate]

Kishi has ruined Sasuke's character.

No he didn't. Most Sasuke fans want Sasuke to kill Tsunade the most out of all the kages.

 

[Eternal Sage]

I'm sure it's more likely that you're the 10 year old here judging by your response. People don't get killed for leaving a country without authorization in the real world, they just get deported. In NV, Tsunade ran away from Konoha but no assassins were sent after her, so how could she then send assassins after Sasuke. Also, Tsunade, as the last living descendent of Hashirama/Tobirama, had the duty to take over and make sure the village remains smooth running, but she didn't, instead, she ran away and allowed everything to degenerate. In law you get punished for 'not acting' as well, it's called culpable guilt, eg. Culpable Homicide, because you failed to act when the law placed a duty on you to act. How can you expect Sasuke to entrust the fate of the Village and the world to someone her after everything his family went through? She ran away from all responsibility and then came back to take the reigns as Hokage like nothing happened while she was away for goddamn over 12 years. There's no other way but for Sasuke to kill her, plus it also avenges the Uchiha against the Senju to kill the last one remaining, and it ends the comflict between the clans, a conflict that has affected the whole world. Sasuke is an avenger after all. I'm not saying what Sasuke is doing is right, just explaining the reasoning behind it. Whether it is right or not is another thing all together. It's hard to define right and wrong in the Naruto world because guess what, everyone there is an assassin who lives by the code. " steal, cheat, deceive, or do whatever it takes to complete your mission." Therefore right and wrong is a relative phrase in such a society, you can't just throw in Obama into the mix and expect the comparison to sit snugly

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[lucario14]

He doesn't care who the hokage is, he'll kill them. If the hokage was kakashi, he'll kill him. It's nothing personal he's doing what he feels he should in order to start a revolution.

 

[Avani 🥉]

He doesn't care who the hokage is, he'll kill them. If the hokage was kakashi, he'll kill him. It's nothing personal he's doing what he feels he should in order to start a revolution.

Of course it's not personal. I am sure Danzou would say the same- it was nothing personal. One can argue that he was doing for the greater good - just like Sasuke.

The difference is Danzou did have a plan at least and clear ambition and owned it even though I believe he was a self centered jerk and an ruthless opportunist for the most part.

What next? Kage is just a public office. They can be replaced. The war was there before the bijjus or the kages came in existence. I don't remember when Sasuke last time had a definitive plan about what he was going to do next after killing someone/some people/ a village etc. Let's see the options:

1) Be a dictator, threatening everyone? ( How lovely!)

2) Tell everyone he was the hero who saved them all and lie about how kages and Naruto died and thus gain their favour to make them accept him? ( Such an honorable approach!!)


For I don't see other shinobies accepting him at all if they learn what exactly happened after Kaguya was sealed. If they suspected Hashirama even, what can Sasuke do to gain their trust or respect after pulling such a stunt like backstabbing so many people.

In the meantime - this is one cowardly revolution.

How about we wait till we learn exactly what he has in mind before defending him tooth and nail?

Nothing is eternal in this world. Peace is just a relative status and to maintain it, people from each side have to work on it actively and routinely; draw boundaries and yet make some compromises along the way and make a real effort for it. Or they lose it.

 

[lucario14]

Of course it's not personal. I am sure Danzou would say the same- it was nothing personal. One can argue that he was doing for the greater good - just like Sasuke.

The difference is Danzou did have a plan at least and clear ambition and owned it even though I believe he was a self centered jerk and an ruthless opportunist for the most part.

What next? Kage is just a public office. They can be replaced. The war was there before the bijjus or the kages came in existence. I don't remember when Sasuke last time had a definitive plan about what he was going to do next after killing someone/some people/ a village etc. Let's see the options:

1) Be a dictator, threatening everyone? ( How lovely!)

2) Tell everyone he was the hero who saved them all and lie about how kages and Naruto died and thus gain their favour to make them accept him? ( Such an honorable approach!!)


For I don't see other shinobies accepting him at all if they learn what exactly happened after Kaguya died. If they suspected Hashirama even what has Sasuke done to gain their trust or respect after pulling such a stunt like backstabbing so many people.

In the meantime - this is one cowardly revolution.

How about we wait till we learn exactly what he has in mind before defending him tooth and nail?

Nothing is eternal in this world. Peace is just a status and if one wants to maintain it, you have to work on it actively and routinely. Draw boundaries and yet make some compromises along the way and make a real effort for it. Or you lose it.

Hold the phone. I never said I was for killing the kages. I know this isn't going to help his cause. Also we can't say anything about this revolution until he has mentioned his plans for what he will do after he has executed the kages.

I'm not defending his actions I'm stating why he wants to do the things he wants to do. But what I will say is the shinobi village system is in need of a change. Neither sasuke nor naruto can bring peace by themselves. Like you said, a compromise must be reached.