"Sasuke surpassing Itachi" and how it was treated by Kishi.

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Hiraishin Stage 3

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So lets talk about this.

We know that in the beginning of the series sasuke had expressed a desire to surpass Itachi, but I can't help but feel that as the series neared its end this aspect was treated poorly.

Throughout the later part of the series sasuke is constantly reminded by some other character about how he is inferior to Itachi in some way or other. This really shouldn't be the case

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Then again when Itachi returns instead of leading the fight he is pushed to back and is constantly lectured by him and saved by him.

Hakugeki, Inorganic reanimation, Sound genjutsu, Itachi rescues him from all this, and is the main fighter and ultimately defeats kabuto while sasuke is a mere assistant at best and spectator at worst.

On why exactly this looks bad you can look at Naruto who has the reverse.

Naruto was the lead fighter against the juubi/madara/obito and the hokages were assisting him, not the other way around. And kishi had no problem showing and telling us that he achieved what he wanted.

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Now you will say "b-but OP look at how biiiig sasuke's susanoo is!, he will stomp itachi"

That is not the point, the point is Kishi's reluctance to plainly say that sasuke has surpassed itachi and how he subtly finds ways to show him inferior to itachi.
 

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I don't get your point. Of course, Naruto got the spotlight, he is the main character...
 

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Rinnesuke > EMSuke > Itachi.
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I don't get your point. Of course, Naruto got the spotlight, he is the main character...

I am not saying he has to lead the war but at least he should lead the fight against kabuto and not be babysat by itachi.
 

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What is the mere point of Itachi? When it's stated sasuke will surpass a character higher/stronger then itachi?
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As expected from Alt of Troll member,
EMS Sasuke>Itachi
 

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OP must be brain dead. Sasuke surpassed Itachi long ago. Itachi only ended up failing like he admitted. Kishi wasn't taking jabs at Sasuke but the opponents did because they are constantly compared. Narutos and Sasukes path were two different towards the same goal. Naruto was always a "good" guy so ofc he will morally be listed to surpass the hokage.
 

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Sasuke surpassed Itachi only in destruction and power, but not in intelligence.
 

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Lmao @the trolls who think Sasuke surpassed Itachi.

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OP must be brain dead. Sasuke surpassed Itachi long ago. Itachi only ended up failing like he admitted. Kishi wasn't taking jabs at Sasuke but the opponents did because they are constantly compared. Narutos and Sasukes path were two different towards the same goal. Naruto was always a "good" guy so ofc he will morally be listed to surpass the hokage.

OP is the alt of same person who said Sasuke is light years away from getting the glimpse of Sage.

Dunno why are mods not banning Trolls using alts when their main is banned :coffee:
 

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I am not saying he has to lead the war but at least he should lead the fight against kabuto and not be babysat by itachi.

Well, Kabuto was better than both, in the cave, Izanami was the only option (an asspull ?)
 

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Power wise-Sasuke>>>>Itachi

But what matter the most here in NB and NV is Power. Believe or philosophy is second thing.

Even though you got great believe or philosophy or whatever, without power you cant go further inside NV if you are Shinobi.
 
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EMS Sasuke onwards murder stomps Itachi. Maybe the strongest version of Sasuke which Itachi can beat is the Sasuke in Kabuto fight
 

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EMS Sasuke onwards murder stomps Itachi. Maybe the strongest version of Sasuke which Itachi can beat is the Sasuke in Kabuto fight

You do know that is ems Sasuke in the Kabuto fight
 

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But what matter the most here in NB

That is to be expected from rabid fanboys.

and NV is Power.

No, what matters is how you win fight, you can still defeat someone while being weaker.

Believe or philosophy is second thing.

Kishi isn't even talking or showing that.

-Sasuke your genjutsu sucks compared to itachi.
-Sasuke you are denser compared to itachi.

If it were upto me, I would ended it just as Sasuke got MS, say clearly that he has surpassed itachi.

But no kishi didn't do that he kept finding ways to say sasuke is inferior in this or that, and had itachi babysit him when he returned.
 
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