Sasuke Speed is if Not on Par Better Then Narutos .

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Actually, base Naruto and base Sasuke speed was even at the VOE battle. These scenes proves their speed was even and Naruto was running up against gravity.





The time Sasuke blitz Naruto in part 1 he was using the CS to increase his speed and his fire jutsu as a diversion to create an opening.



 

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you explicitly stated that ʻif heʻs not just as fast, then heʻs close and his reactions make up for itʻ. How does that not = same level of speed?


Sasuke blitzing several individuals without his sharingan in part 2 has absolutely nothing to do with my argument. Sasukeʻs natural reactions and speed were simply just far superior to the people he blitzed. So nope, until you can prove that Sasuke is as fast as V1 Ei, thereʻs an even greater speed gap between sasuke and V1 Ei as there was between KN0 Naruto and Sasuke at VoTe.


Wait, but YOUʻRE the one whoʻs crying that Naruto doing that to Ei was plot. So you canʻt claim plot since your entire argument rests on plot and therefore youʻve bought into your own fiction.


Our discussion ends here then. If you believe that base bee is faster than BM Naruto, then I donʻt think theirʻs any point in discussing anything concerning Naruto with you as youʻve proven you have no desire to evaluate this manga objectively.



oh the irony:


And no, since you have not addressed my arguments that none of those seven examples showed naruto using his shunshin and therefore are not applicable to naruto using shusnhin, then youʻve conceded that point.
How did you get through school? That translates into he's faster or on par with Ae? This would explain the incoherent and pointless retorts.

It does. An age old scan when Sasuke monumentally improved in part II doesn't help your case. He showed without any element of pre-cog in play that he's simply a fast individual. Reaching Sakura faster than Naruto and reacting faster than KCM Minato to save KCM Naruto has nothing to do with Pre-cog.

A guy wailing over one scan pettily calls out another guy that he's crying. Hilarious shit. Several solid examples outweigh your fiction.

By feats, he is. I couldn't care less what you think or not. Bee reacted faster than Naruto on plenty of situations. That's all I need to know.

Ever heard of Deus Ex Machina? It works wonders for Naruto. Let's see Pein's fight about which you are still hilariously bawling over in the other thread:

- The paths couldn't see through regular smoke bombs.
- Animal Path couldn't see Naruto inside Bunta's mouth.
- Deva was vastly incapacitated.
- Ma decided to summon the entire platoon of toads to aid Naruto.
- Naruto summons his Senjutsu Clone to the battle field and has no need to even touch it and magically enters SM.
- Kurama steps in to save his behind.
- It magically breaks out of the crushing weight of CT's core, and that too with an Armour that is simply V2 mode.
- Nagato doesn't decide to make it bigger.
- After reverting back, he's hilariously standing outside CT.
- Nagato doesn't decide to kill him by throwing a rod straight through his scull, he just loved Jiraiya's literature.

Your literary-poverty stricken character has always has had plot to get him out of hairy situations. That lone feat against V2 Ae was nothing but D E M. Your whining won't alter how poor a character Naruto is, or how poorly his opponents are reduced in power to grant him the win.
 
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Sasukes reactions are as fast as Narutos IMO. The thing is - his body is just slower. Thats why Kaguya was able to defend herself from Sasuke, but Naruto was able to hit her. Even though Sasuke instantly appeared right next to her, his next movements were too slow, thats why Kaguya blocked them. Naruto didnt get to Kaguya faster than Sasuke, in fact it was the other way around, but Narutos attack was fast enough to get to her.
 
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