Sasuke Perfect Susano?

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Madara spent years and years mastering the sharingan. In fact i think the wiki or databook says that he is the only one to master it completely every technique. So if sasuke spends half the time doing that then i'll be alright with it. As for the inferno control he figured that out when he accidenly nearly killed karin against the 8 tails.
No that was just putting out the flames, flame control is shape manipulation. like coating his Susanoo, also Madara's databook page says nothing about Madara mastering every MS tech. Naruto, Gaara, and Sasule have all become kage level ninja while only in their teens. I don't find it hard believe that Sasuke will equal Madara while still in his teens. Like Hashi and Madara they're the strongest living ninja of their era(outside of Tobi), and they are only in their teens.
 

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Kakashi you're just whining and hating at the same time. Sasuke this, Sasuke that. Naruto got BM, so sasuke should stick with his final form? You're unreasonable. Even if Sasuke spams. Guess what! Naruto does too!
 
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Oh I see. . . Chakra control not formation. You got me on that.
But! Still the way I see it is he never stood out when his clan was around until Itachi erraticated them all then he began to show some potential but soon surpassed by naruto up till their final battle. He's fodder to me mainly b/c if orochimaru hadn't given him the curse mark he wouldn't be where he is now. That curse mark made him immensely strong but if you took that away in the beginning he'd be in the left village now. IMO naruto would of defeated him without the curse mark and dragged him back to the village with ease. Orochimaru gave him power and so did Itachi. Them two played a major role in his power ups!

Agree but he work his ass off to mastered it..but he will get ps but i dnt believe he will get it in this arc
 

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Sasuke's main battery has usually been charged by hatred. The more hatred he gets, the stronger he becomes. Now you are correct that the Uchiha name drove him on, but it was also his hatred of Itachi and his dreadful goal of getting stronger (in order to kill him) that lead him to his actual strength. Once the Uchiha massacre occurred, Sasuke truly embraced his hatred.

Sasuke definitely took sacrifices for his power too; I think that is generally overlooked by some. Would you rather train 3 years with Jiraiya or under 3 years with Orochimaru (who wants to take his body)? He constantly worked in the dark to receive the power he so desired.

Sasuke sacrificed the village's comforts in order to get this power. Hard work over gifted talents is a key part in this manga, but pain, especially the emotional kind, is one of the most dominant sources of power in the manga. IIRC, pain is what got Naruto to learn Sage Mode in the first place. Naruto's encounter with Sasuke under the bridge explained this a bit. If the Kyuubi out-right said that he was comparable to Uchiha Madara, that must say something about his future! Naruto isn't a shrub either btw >_<

No what I think is bothering you is the speed by which characters learn/master these jutsu. If it helps you at all, remember that Sasuke was commenting on how much pain Susano'o caused at first. That's Kishi's way of hinting towards experience over time me thinks.

You hit the nail on the head with that one. Perfect response.
Yes that's exatly what bothers me. For Madara to master the sharingan completely and have perfect susanoo, yes. For Sasuke to master only two really powerful sharingan doujutsus and have perfect susanoo, no. It'd overlook all of Madara's hard work and sharingan accomplishments.
 

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Agree but he work his ass off to mastered it..but he will get ps but i dnt believe he will get it in this arc

If he gets it in another arc then I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL. But if he gets it now so quickly, then. . .I'll call it quits with naruto.
 

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Exactly what manga or episode did I miss when it stated that Sasuke would get perfect susanoo. I mean seriously where does it say that? Just b/c we see edo Madara with perfect susanoo it doesn't mean that Sasuke will get it.

1) His sharingan abilities is nowhere near Madara's level let alone Itachi
2) Both Itachi and Madara mastered all three mangekyou abilities that they gained when they awakened their ms while sasuke mastered only two (susanoo + amaterasu)
3) What fact do any Sasuke fanboy have that he'll even come close to his own perfect susanoo

Note: If Kishi was to ever give Sasuke perfect susanoo as a power up I will seriously stop watching Naruto and move on to another anime b/c these power ups that he's giving villians like Kabuto is slowly ruining the anime.
An overly powered antagonist kills animes like this. I mean once you've conquered the world, then what?

Oh an whatever sasuke fanboy that tries to flame will recieve -rep and FLAMED 100x's stronger back! :noc:

there is no reason to give him other powerups.
i don't know who said that that he get the perfect susanoo or the match between sasuke and naruto.
both fanfiction of nb it's nowhere stated about that match or perfect susanoo

let the fanboys dream
 

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Sasuke has always been special. The fact that he's destined to be the rival to the child of prophecy should say something, unless you've just been making up your own manga. Tobi and Oro have been hyping him up the entire manga. He's constantly being compared to Madara directly and indirectly. And most of your arguments don't make sense. Madara has only shown mastery of Susanoo and not any of the of MS techs so that's a moot point. And saying if any Uchiha had MS he could be as strong as Sasuke is a hypothetical and we're talking about what IS not what could be. If Kakashi was a jinchuriki he'd be really op but he's not, so it's not worth debating. Sasuke IS one of the strongest Uchiha to live, whether you want to admit it or not.

How did Madara? Hoe did he figure out how to use inferno style?

Your missing my point completely, lad. He's beyond kage level now but my problem is which the speed that he gains ps so soon. Madara worked hard, Sasuke did too, I know. But he mainly got power ups just to match naruto.
 

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there is no reason to give him other powerups.
i don't know who said that that he get the perfect susanoo or the match between sasuke and naruto.
both fanfiction of nb it's nowhere stated about that match or perfect susanoo

let the fanboys dream

I here yuh, man. I do.
 

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He already does with his v2 susanoo but it'd be nice to see some of his new ablities that he's gained with the ems.

But isnt in his v2 susanoo he did some amaterusa shurinken so i believe he use his mastery of shape transformation n made tht jutsu..but i havent seen any of his own ms abilities..
 

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But isnt in his v2 susanoo he did some amaterusa shurinken so i believe he use his mastery of shape transformation n made tht jutsu..but i havent seen any of his own ms abilities..

Yea he did something like that. Lol it was kinda hard to tell exactly what he was shooting.
 

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Lol I don't know how to post pics but when the 9 tails freak out and became a bitch ass when madara tried to summon him
 

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I have a feeling that perfect susanoo required rinnegan but that hasnt been stated anywhere so we cant be sure. If sasuke manages to get rinnegan then maybe he can unlock perfect susanoo. Though it's possible that it doesnt require the rinnegan, just EMS. If this is the case there's a possibility that he could still get it. I have a feeling he's going to get SOME kind of powerup before he fights naruto, but i cant be sure. I just don't know HOW he's goign to get some kind of powerup.
Actually a theory just came to mind. That scroll that suigetsu just found me have something to do with hashi DNA and getting the rinnegan. If it's not that, it's probably something else that us related to uchiha power that will help him out. That scroll may just be sasuke's last powerup before he fights naruto.
 

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I have a feeling that perfect susanoo required rinnegan but that hasnt been stated anywhere so we cant be sure. If sasuke manages to get rinnegan then maybe he can unlock perfect susanoo. Though it's possible that it doesnt require the rinnegan, just EMS. If this is the case there's a possibility that he could still get it. I have a feeling he's going to get SOME kind of powerup before he fights naruto, but i cant be sure. I just don't know HOW he's goign to get some kind of powerup.
Actually a theory just came to mind. That scroll that suigetsu just found me have something to do with hashi DNA and getting the rinnegan. If it's not that, it's probably something else that us related to uchiha power that will help him out. That scroll may just be sasuke's last powerup before he fights naruto.

Possible. Maybe it was some plan for orochimaru to strengthen Sasuke's body 10 fold after he took it.
 

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Exactly what manga or episode did I miss when it stated that Sasuke would get perfect susanoo. I mean seriously where does it say that? Just b/c we see edo Madara with perfect susanoo it doesn't mean that Sasuke will get it.

1) His sharingan abilities is nowhere near Madara's level let alone Itachi
2) Both Itachi and Madara mastered all three mangekyou abilities that they gained when they awakened their ms while sasuke mastered only two (susanoo + amaterasu)
3) What fact do any Sasuke fanboy have that he'll even come close to his own perfect susanoo

Note: If Kishi was to ever give Sasuke perfect susanoo as a power up I will seriously stop watching Naruto and move on to another anime b/c these power ups that he's giving villians like Kabuto is slowly ruining the anime.
An overly powered antagonist kills animes like this. I mean once you've conquered the world, then what?

Oh an whatever sasuke fanboy that tries to flame will recieve -rep and FLAMED 100x's stronger back! :noc:

an overly powered antagonist ads suspense to the story, how will the main character fight him? is the main character strong enough? who can now stop the antagonists?
 
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