Sasuke Perfect Susano?

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it would be a total drag if sasuke will perfect his susanoo right away! it's just ridiculous. he needs years and more mastery....
There needs to be a time skip. It makes sense doesn't it, after the time skip Sasuke is older and has mastery of his Susano'o and perfect Susano'o to fight Naruto and everyone is wondering what his Susano'o will look like. Seems plausible.
 

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He does have special traits he have a strong chackra just like madara hes a master of chackra formation thts why he mastered his lightning element n amaterusa..
Every Uchiha has strong chakra. How else would they be able to even use their sharingan constantly. Kakashi's an example. And its not just strong chakra it's also a certain type that could maintain it too such senju dna. Also any character in narutoverse could master chakra formation. Sakura's another example.
 

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How many year it took itachi to mastered susanoo or amaterusa? N sasuke mastered it on a few days..
That's from spamming the hell outta it and even tho he mastered it he was extremely close to blindness. If all uchiha's could practice with their ms without going blind Im sure many of 'em would be bosses but that's not the case.
 

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There needs to be a time skip. It makes sense doesn't it, after the time skip Sasuke is older and has mastery of his Susano'o and perfect Susano'o to fight Naruto and everyone is wondering what his Susano'o will look like. Seems plausible.
Now this^ would work. For him to even have ps now would be crazy but years from now with complete mastery of susano; tsukuyomi; + amaterasu, I could accept it.
 

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There needs to be a time skip. It makes sense doesn't it, after the time skip Sasuke is older and has mastery of his Susano'o and perfect Susano'o to fight Naruto and everyone is wondering what his Susano'o will look like. Seems plausible.
This is why I think there will be a third series that comes out soon. Like how Shippuden was to the original. It will be another time skip and naruto will be a jounin and sasuke will be a rogue madara copy
 

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Every Uchiha has strong chakra. How else would they be able to even use their sharingan constantly. Kakashi's an example. And its not just strong chakra it's also a certain type that could maintain it too such senju dna. Also any character in narutoverse could master chakra formation. Sakura's another example.
Wrong not every uchiha..kurama stated tht sasuke chackra is as strong as madara chackra n not every uchiha not even itachi have tht..n wrong again saskura mastered chackra control not chackra formation" shape transformation" ..
 

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Perhaps, but in all honestly he was foreshadowed somewhat to have that potential.
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It goes with the whole Naruto and Sasuke parallel thing. I don't think of Sasuke as a random Uchiha fodder.
Well why not? His father defintely wasn't impressed by nor was anyone for the matter. Itachi stood out, Sasuke sunk in.

Also your right, in the beginning he was shown to have potential but that was mainly b/c of the Uchiha name and legacy. He had no choice but to stand out and be the best but still his potential was always surpassed by naruto in the first arc so. . .
 

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True.
But it's kinda like comparing a giant to a midget. Sasuke and his abilities is way below Madara's while Madara's is skyrocketing on Sasuke. For Sasuke to get perfect susanoo he'd have to be on Madara's level which we all see that he's not. Madara was the strongest of all Uchiha, Sasuke is just another regular Uchiha who Itachi didn't kill. There was never anything special about Sasuke to begin with so why should he gain such a special power such as perfect susano. And as far we can see any clansman can specialize from their clans traits but to take it to its fullest extent(as we see Madara doing) you'd have to have something special about theirselves or at least some type of special trait which he does not possess.
Sasuke has always been special. The fact that he's destined to be the rival to the child of prophecy should say something, unless you've just been making up your own manga. Tobi and Oro have been hyping him up the entire manga. He's constantly being compared to Madara directly and indirectly. And most of your arguments don't make sense. Madara has only shown mastery of Susanoo and not any of the of MS techs so that's a moot point. And saying if any Uchiha had MS he could be as strong as Sasuke is a hypothetical and we're talking about what IS not what could be. If Kakashi was a jinchuriki he'd be really op but he's not, so it's not worth debating. Sasuke IS one of the strongest Uchiha to live, whether you want to admit it or not.

Yea sure the battle would be more interesting with sasuke having ps. BUT it'd be BS if he just goes..."Hey! Look what I can do!" Boon ps. Plus he hasn't even seen PS so how does he even know that that it can be brought out that far?
How did Madara? Hoe did he figure out how to use inferno style?
 
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Sasuke has always been special. The fact that he's destined to be the rival to the child of prophecy should say something, unless you've just been making up your own manga. Tobi and Oro have been hyping him up the entire manga. He's constantly being compared to Madara directly and indirectly.

How did Madara? Hoe did he figure out how to use inferno style?
Madara spent years and years mastering the sharingan. In fact i think the wiki or databook says that he is the only one to master it completely every technique. So if sasuke spends half the time doing that then i'll be alright with it. As for the inferno control he figured that out when he accidenly nearly killed karin against the 8 tails.
 

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Well why not? His father defintely wasn't impressed by nor was anyone for the matter. Itachi stood out, Sasuke sunk in.

Also your right, in the beginning he was shown to have potential but that was mainly b/c of the Uchiha name and legacy. He had no choice but to stand out and be the best but still his potential was always surpassed by naruto in the first arc so. . .
His father was very impressed when he saw how quick he mastered the fire ball jutsu
 

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Well why not? His father defintely wasn't impressed by nor was anyone for the matter. Itachi stood out, Sasuke sunk in.

Also your right, in the beginning he was shown to have potential but that was mainly b/c of the Uchiha name and legacy. He had no choice but to stand out and be the best but still his potential was always surpassed by naruto in the first arc so. . .
Sasuke's main battery has usually been charged by hatred. The more hatred he gets, the stronger he becomes. Now you are correct that the Uchiha name drove him on, but it was also his hatred of Itachi and his dreadful goal of getting stronger (in order to kill him) that lead him to his actual strength. Once the Uchiha massacre occurred, Sasuke truly embraced his hatred.

Sasuke definitely took sacrifices for his power too; I think that is generally overlooked by some. Would you rather train 3 years with Jiraiya or under 3 years with Orochimaru (who wants to take his body)? He constantly worked in the dark to receive the power he so desired.

Sasuke sacrificed the village's comforts in order to get this power. Hard work over gifted talents is a key part in this manga, but pain, especially the emotional kind, is one of the most dominant sources of power in the manga. IIRC, pain is what got Naruto to learn Sage Mode in the first place. Naruto's encounter with Sasuke under the bridge explained this a bit. If the Kyuubi out-right said that he was comparable to Uchiha Madara, that must say something about his future! Naruto isn't a shrub either btw >_<

No what I think is bothering you is the speed by which characters learn/master these jutsu. If it helps you at all, remember that Sasuke was commenting on how much pain Susano'o caused at first. That's Kishi's way of hinting towards experience over time me thinks.
 

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Wrong not every uchiha..kurama stated tht sasuke chackra is as strong as madara chackra n not every uchiha not even itachi have tht..n wrong again saskura mastered chackra control not chackra formation" shape transformation" ..
Oh I see. . . Chakra control not formation. You got me on that.
But! Still the way I see it is he never stood out when his clan was around until Itachi erraticated them all then he began to show some potential but soon surpassed by naruto up till their final battle. He's fodder to me mainly b/c if orochimaru hadn't given him the curse mark he wouldn't be where he is now. That curse mark made him immensely strong but if you took that away in the beginning he'd be in the left village now. IMO naruto would of defeated him without the curse mark and dragged him back to the village with ease. Orochimaru gave him power and so did Itachi. Them two played a major role in his power ups!
 

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Sasuke's main battery has usually been charged by hatred. The more hatred he gets, the stronger he becomes. Now you are correct that the Uchiha name drove him on, but it was also his hatred of Itachi and his dreadful goal of getting stronger (in order to kill him) that lead him to his actual strength. Once the Uchiha massacre occurred, Sasuke truly embraced his hatred.

Sasuke definitely took sacrifices for his power too; I think that is generally overlooked by some. Would you rather train 3 years with Jiraiya or under 3 years with Orochimaru (who wants to take his body)? He constantly worked in the dark to receive the power he so desired.

Sasuke sacrificed the village's comforts in order to get this power. Hard work over gifted talents is a key part in this manga, but pain, especially the emotional kind, is one of the most dominant sources of power in the manga. IIRC, pain is what got Naruto to learn Sage Mode in the first place. Naruto's encounter with Sasuke under the bridge explained this a bit. If the Kyuubi out-right said that he was comparable to Uchiha Madara, that must say something about his future! Naruto isn't a shrub either btw >_<

No what I think is bothering you is the speed by which characters learn/master these jutsu. If it helps you at all, remember that Sasuke was commenting on how much pain Susano'o caused at first. That's Kishi's way of hinting towards experience over time me thinks.
Dude spent three years with a rapist who wanted his body.... Their ain't no tellin what went down lol
 

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Sasuke's main battery has usually been charged by hatred. The more hatred he gets, the stronger he becomes. Now you are correct that the Uchiha name drove him on, but it was also his hatred of Itachi and his dreadful goal of getting stronger (in order to kill him) that lead him to his actual strength. Once the Uchiha massacre occurred, Sasuke truly embraced his hatred.

Sasuke definitely took sacrifices for his power too; I think that is generally overlooked by some. Would you rather train 3 years with Jiraiya or under 3 years with Orochimaru (who wants to take his body)? He constantly worked in the dark to receive the power he so desired.

Sasuke sacrificed the village's comforts in order to get this power. Hard work over gifted talents is a key part in this manga, but pain, especially the emotional kind, is one of the most dominant sources of power in the manga. IIRC, pain is what got Naruto to learn Sage Mode in the first place. Naruto's encounter with Sasuke under the bridge explained this a bit. If the Kyuubi out-right said that he was comparable to Uchiha Madara, that must say something about his future! Naruto isn't a shrub either btw >_<

No what I think is bothering you is the speed by which characters learn/master these jutsu. If it helps you at all, remember that Sasuke was commenting on how much pain Susano'o caused at first. That's Kishi's way of hinting towards experience over time me thinks.
Thank you my friend is true ppl do forget bout tht..
 

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Dude spent three years with a rapist who wanted his body.... Their ain't no tellin what went down lol
I'm debating how Sasuke was able to sleep soundly in Orochimaru's lair. Now that I think about it, he did seem to wake up pretty quickly when Sai's snakes start slithering to his bed-side
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