Sasuke: Master of Amaterasu

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Actually you fail, good sir......

Here we see that amaterasu originated in the crumbled rock area that used to be the Uchiha hideout - it then spread to the forested area.
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This is emphasised by Oro's snake which is burnt by amaterasu whilst still in the rock rubble area
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Here we see that the rain starts above Sasuke, yet there is amaterasu close to his current location - still in the rubble area. The same thing is also shown in Zetsu's panel.
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Again amaterasu very close to Sasuke's current location in the now raining rubble area
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Again the raining rubble area is shown completely encircled by amaterasu
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Hinata spots the raining area covered in black flames using her byakugan
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Konoha gets closer to find the forest on fire - note that they aren't close enough for it to be raining . Yamato then splits a small alley in the forest and only the forest.
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Konoha finally makes it to the raining rubble area - which was previously completely encircled by amaterasu flames. In the frames we get 3 different angles none of which have and evidence that the amaterasu is still there
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It has gone out due to the rain... Konoha should have also encountered it again after Yamato stayed back since it encircling both the forest and in the raining rubble areas. They did not.........
You're saying "rain water" put out Amaterasu?! Just because you can't see it burning in those pictures? those angles just didn't show it burning.
Do you know how dumb that sounds? Bro you're hatred for Sasuke is evident in your posts.
 

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I'm not sure about this whole Amaterasu encircling the forest. I assume since the user which was Itachi at the time died. The flames disappeared as a result of the users death or Kishimoto simply had the fires put out by plot. Amaterasu is said to even burn on water, so i can't see how rain water took the flames from the area.

Perhaps Amaterasu fades away when the user dies in battle... You never know stranger things can happen in the series. Maybe Itachi put out the flames for some reason or another... If i remember from the fight between the brothers. Itachi pulled out his own Susanoo against Sasuke, the sun came out for some reason. After Itachi died in the battle it started to rain. So maybe the effects of sun and water together affected the stability of Amaterasu.
 
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manga page where Kabuto countered by shedding his skin.....
Bee only survived because Sasuke cut off that tentacle to save Karin. Simple substitution my ass!

As far as Amaterasu getting put out....look at the above post, your hatred for Sasuke is spewing out of you...every claim you made is frikking false!
Holy crap, just read the Kabuto vs. Itachi/ Sasuke fight again and that never happened haha. Thats my bad, apologies.. although sasuke used it as a counter previously, but still kabuto hasn't actually physically employed that counter. Also the bee thing was a substitution wans't it? when they tried to gedo his chakra out it poofed and turned into a tentacle - thats substitution jutsu right?

For the amaterasu thing look at the above bit in this post.....

You're saying "rain water" put out Amaterasu?! Just because you can't see it burning in those pictures? those angles just didn't show it burning.
Do you know how dumb that sounds? Bro you're hatred for Sasuke is evident in your posts.
Its the same angles we see in the zetsu panel. Hey I don't understand why its not there either - but it isn't, just saying....
 
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Actually you fail, good sir......

Here we see that amaterasu originated in the crumbled rock area that used to be the Uchiha hideout - it then spread to the forested area.
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This is emphasised by Oro's snake which is burnt by amaterasu whilst still in the rock rubble area
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Here we see that the rain starts above Sasuke, yet there is amaterasu close to his current location - still in the rubble area. The same thing is also shown in Zetsu's panel.
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Again amaterasu very close to Sasuke's current location in the now raining rubble area
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Again the raining rubble area is shown completely encircled by amaterasu
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Hinata spots the raining area covered in black flames using her byakugan
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Konoha gets closer to find the forest on fire - note that they aren't close enough for it to be raining . Yamato then splits a small alley in the forest and only the forest.
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Konoha finally makes it to the raining rubble area - which was previously completely encircled by amaterasu flames. In the frames we get 3 different angles none of which have and evidence that the amaterasu is still there
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It has gone out due to the rain... Konoha should have also encountered it again after Yamato stayed back since it encircling both the forest and in the raining rubble areas. They did not.........
You logic ends up saying the Amaterasu can be burn by the Rain Water while in the Manga it says the Amaterasu can't be burn out by any source of water so who failed now?
 

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I'm not sure about this whole Amaterasu encircling the forest. I assume since the user which was Itachi at the time died. The flames disappeared as a result of the users death or Kishimoto simply had the fires put out by plot. Amaterasu is said to even burn on water, so i can't see how rain water took the flames from the area.

Perhaps Amaterasu fades away when the user dies in battle... You never know stranger things can happen in the series.
I have a theory that the thundercloud was feeding on Amaterasu and slowly absorbed it. Remember......what black Zetsu was saying...heat from Amaterasu was fuelling the cloud, and Sasuke intended to use that heat as well for his Kirin.
 

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I have a theory that the thundercloud was feeding on Amaterasu and slowly absorbed it. Remember......what black Zetsu was saying...heat from Amaterasu was fuelling the cloud, and Sasuke intended to use that heat as well for his Kirin.
Yeah that's also true. The flames could have been affected from Sasuke's attack.
 

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You logic ends up saying the Amaterasu can be burn by the Rain Water while in the Manga it says the Amaterasu can't be burn out by any source of water so who failed now?
Like I said, I don't know why it isn't there either, but it certainly seems as though it doesn't burn for 7 days and 7 nights - thats all I was trying to point out.......

I'm not even talking about sasuke and I even said in an earlier post that amaterasu is a very strong jutsu. I was just pointing out that some of the hype surrounding amaterasu needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
 

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Holy crap, just read the Kabuto vs. Itachi/ Sasuke fight again and that never happened haha. Thats my bad, apologies.. although sasuke used it as a counter previously, but still kabuto hasn't actually physically employed that counter. Also the bee thing was a substitution wans't it? when they tried to gedo his chakra out it poofed and turned into a tentacle - thats substitution jutsu right?

For the amaterasu thing look at the above bit in this post.....


Its the same angles we see in the zetsu panel. Hey I don't understand why its not there either - but it isn't, just saying....
Bee survived because Sasuke saved his teammate.
 

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Bee survived because Sasuke saved his teammate.
But why did the replacement bee 'poof' to a tentacle, its the same as using a log isn't it (just a tentacle). Sure Sasuke cut the leg off but Bee still took advantage of that and subbed to counter the amaterasu that was already on him.
 

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But why did the replacement bee 'poof' to a tentacle, its the same as using a log isn't it (just a tentacle). Sure Sasuke cut the leg off but Bee still took advantage of that and subbed to counter the amaterasu that was already on him.
He took advantage from Sasuke's Chidori Spear from the tentacle. I feel that Sasuke was aware of his mistake, but he had no choice but to save Karin.
 

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How many people have avoided Sasukes Susanoo arrow? Just imagine that thing coated in Amaterasu now!

No one has ever been killed by any OP jutsu! You prove nothing!
u never understand do u :sy:

Susanoo arrows were counteres by Kakashi's kamui , Danzo's Izanagi and Wood release so even susanoo arrows have weakness

my point was not to prove that " amaterasu cannot kill " ..... my point is even amaterasu has weakness and its not as fool proof as u make it look and i think i've done that with this post (for which i didnot receive any counter argument)

Since you have based your whole argument on amaterasu i'll give u this as a counter .... "Speed"
Sasuke cannot hit someone with amaterasu if they are very fast

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and Naruto is faster than Raikage

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if naruto is faster than Raikage he can also dodge amaterasu ....it doesn't matter hw great sasuke is in manipulating the amaterasu

if u still dont understand .....then may god have mercy on ur soul
 

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u never understand do u :sy:

Susanoo arrows were counteres by Kakashi's kamui , Danzo's Izanagi and Wood release so even susanoo arrows have weakness

my point was not to prove that " amaterasu cannot kill " ..... my point is even amaterasu has weakness and its not as fool proof as u make it look and i think i've done that with this post (for which i didnot receive any counter argument)

Since you have based your whole argument on amaterasu i'll give u this as a counter .... "Speed"
Sasuke cannot hit someone with amaterasu if they are very fast

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and Naruto is faster than Raikage

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if naruto is faster than Raikage he can also dodge amaterasu ....it doesn't matter hw great sasuke is in manipulating the amaterasu

if u still dont understand .....then may god have mercy on ur soul
Raikage only dodged Sasukes eye! Not an entire Susanoo swinging it's Susanoo sword around or shooting Amaterasu arrows!

The other way Raikage survived Amaterasu was by cutting off his own left arm! Who won that one?

I agree Naruto has several ways to counter everything Sasuke throws at him, but so does Sasuke!

My point is that Naruto and Sasuke are currently equals.

But why did the replacement bee 'poof' to a tentacle, its the same as using a log isn't it (just a tentacle). Sure Sasuke cut the leg off but Bee still took advantage of that and subbed to counter the amaterasu that was already on him.
Bottom line....Bee survived because Sasuke let him.
 
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Of course sasuke is better than naruto. He was ALWAYS better than naruto. From the first to the last episode in the first part, and from the very beginning of part 2 Sasuke has been outpacing Naruto. Right now naruto is at his peak. His ENTIRE power comes from kurama, without that and he is pathetically weak. Give Kurama to Sasuke and you have an unstoppable god of carnage.
 

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Of course sasuke is better than naruto. He was ALWAYS better than naruto. From the first to the last episode in the first part, and from the very beginning of part 2 Sasuke has been outpacing Naruto. Right now naruto is at his peak. His ENTIRE power comes from kurama, without that and he is pathetically weak. Give Kurama to Sasuke and you have an unstoppable god of carnage.
That isn't true, Sasuke would be nothing without his eyes or his heritage either. The tailed beasts have always remained as part of the Hokages power in Konoha, Naruto is just carrying on that legacy, just as Sasuke is.

And no, Sasuke isn't better than Naruto and he never was, Sasukes power comes from strong over all fundamental skills and his Sharingan, that is an Uchiha trait. They are geniuses from birth.

Narutos powers are his guts and hard work, without them he would have never mastered the Kyuubi.
 

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Compared to Juubi they are fodders. I don't think Amaterasu will be the key but since Kishi said he will meet Naruto I hope that he will come befere Juubi's death and do something about it.
 
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