ninjarasengan
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In any contest all that matters is who wins and who loses...clearly Sasuke lost so:bdpf:
Sasuke lost to Naruto. However...
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Im Still Robin
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Funny, you think that not having the fox he wouldn't get slandered the same way lmao that fodder still has a "curse seal"
And who is to say that he won't still get the fox? No one but Kishi which I don't think has been confirmed so...I mean he's arguably worse than Naruto because he was a pompous betch who cheated...at least Naruto worked for the rasengan I can say that.
I don't really think that matters because Sasuke had the Curse Seal. If they wanna slander him for having the seal, then they have slander Sasuke too. Plus there's a big difference between a Bijuu =/= seal
What? Boruto worked hard for his Rasengan too.
And I don't really understand what you mean. Yeah, Boruto cheated. But that was a literal point of his character. He took short cuts, it is what separated him from his dad. It's what made him a unique.
But Boruto is passed that now, he's focused, he's willing. Though he's also going through changes now because of the seal too. Things are going to be interesting :3
The Necromancer
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It might just be me, but I don't think people care as much about handouts, as they do about multiple entities in a fight (giving handouts).
If Naruto had a jutsu that did literally everything the Kyuubi does, I would never speak out about him again. The problem is that Naruto has another player in his fights, regardless of the abilities he gives.
To that end, I really don't care that Boruto was handed a curse seal, so long as he's the one who uses it.
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Man you'd be surprised. People out here calling Boruto the 'hand out' king because he got a seal ... like it's crazy. Seemingly people forget that this had happened before, but I don't think people were bashing the seal itself back then. What-ever though.
Yeah I understand from that standpoint, but I try not to go hard on Naruto because I know Kishimoto wrote up his character to be fixed in with cooperation. I don't try to make it seem as if Naruto could of made it by himself, because the author clarified that Naruto made it to where he is now because of everyone around him. And plus, he's a Jinchuriki.
Agreed. I don't necessarily see the problem with the seal either, as long as he doesn't become a Jinchuriki I'm cool. Though I hope that the seal is a double-edged sword in that regard, and he needs to train to be able to use it properly in the long run. Though the activation is probably going to be something crazy (like someone got hurt and he exploded with rage or something)
Im Still Robin
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Lool Sasuke didn't want to use it though and it was a con ...if bolt accepts it (I'm sure he will) and it appears he doesn't lose it (which sasuke lost his) then it counts.
Obviously I'd never mention anything that isn't in my favor so no, still counts. You can count curse mark but he barely used it because he barely needed it except in big fights like deidara and itachi..but he did take orochimaru as a whole so idk how curse mark is discounted or whatever.
Unique in your opinion, but ok. In general he showed that he didn't want to work...you can use any point to invalidate this but in manga characters and readers see it that way.
Hm we'll see. First sight of trash I see...even if he gets ftg in a bs way I'm calling it. Going to be strick on this *** until he earn his stripes as Banana's say on the challenge.
Vandenre1ch
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Naruto used up a lot more chakra fighting Kaguya while Sasuke was in another dimension. Sasuke then had to absorb all of the 9 beast's power in order to match a weakened Naruto. Naruto also was trying to incapacitate Sasuke while Sasuke was trying to kill. Even with that massive power up and handicaps in his favor, it was still a draw with Sasuke admitting defeat.
Naruto>Sasuke
Naruto>Sasuke
When did Sasuke not want to use the Curse Seal? At first, he used it in rage. It flowed onto him. But Kakashi warned him that it was no good, so he tried to contain it. However, later down the line as his thirst for power improved. He accepted the pill from the Sound Ninja and willingly accepted the Curse Seal, and spent years with it, honing his training and mastering it. The only reason Sasuke lost the seal is because Itachi forced it out of him, but Sasuke himself never stated that he waned it removed.
I have a feeling that the seals are probably not permanent though. Boruto in the flash forward is probably 16 years old, the same age as Naruto and Sasuke at the start of Shippuden. So he'll probably have it until Kawaki (and the Otsutsuki's) are done with.
...Are you serious? When Sasuke started using the seal, he used it in every battle. Even beforehand, he used it to defeat Naruto before leaving Konohagakure. In Part 2: Used it against Deidara, used it against Orochimaru, and used it against Itachi (and he lost it here). There's no doubt in my mind that Sasuke would continue using the seal if he had it.
He was good with it too. That's why Hebi Sasuke was so damn versatile, he had lightning techniques, snake techniques (/w the seal), and Uchiha techniques.
I don't really understand what this means. For one, yeah I think it is. When have we ever seen a main character who doesn't like to work hard or train? Secondly, they state it multiple times that he didn't want to work hard or train. I mean one of his team members literally
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lol. I don't really understand your grip with him. He's literally done nothing wrong.... I mean he's a child. Really don't understand the perspective for him (or any other young character) who is naive from one certain point of view. Yes, Boruto had a learn a lot to mature. But most kids do too.
Anyway I think Boruto earned his stripes as the Movie was playing going on. I mean he's a Ninja Prodigy, so he learns fast. I dunno if we'll see him working extremely hard, but so far he has learned a lot in his short time from becoming a Genin.
Though I have no doubt in my mind that he's going to continue to surprise us from now on!
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Im Still Robin
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Obviously throughout the entire exams start to finish he didn't want to use it at all.
He accepted it after he was certain that he was playing ninja with a weak loser like Naruto and got strayed from his goal.
He accepted it in different regards to what you're trying to apply. None of that had anything to do with his versatility at all except the snakes and flying (which he still has with summoning and susanoo so) :|
Shikamaru, gg.
Those "stripes" were forced...you never loved/liked naruto or sasuke because of their movies..you loved them because of the anime/manga the things they did to build up to where they are now.
Bolt is just current OP Naruto/Sasuke who has this ... wait for it TWIST! Instead of bijuu it's added in byakugan seals and such from an already strong kid with a freaking jutsu we already didn't understand. Don't want to hear that prodigy stuff Sasuke and Naruto are reincarnation anything they did was/is suppose to be superior Bolt is nothing at this point.
Like I said..had they built these babies and gave us like 100-150 chapters of The Last with everyone having children and doing all of this THEN give us time to wrap around and like them THEN do what you did for part 1 with Naruto and sasuke and the others...perfect classic Naruto again but apparently they can just add new characters and you're suppose to like them because he's his son? No Indra logically that doesn't work at all.
I'm done because it's pointless basically going off the little trash that we have already..maybe 30 chapters in and I'll dive in....if it's trash.
lol I can't believe you guys have strayed towards Juugo's Nature Energy and Curse marks. What do those have to do with the OP?
Instead of just agreeing you continue to try and take stabs but the reality is the same.
SideNote: Why was this moved? We are having a discussion about actual manga footage
Instead of just agreeing you continue to try and take stabs but the reality is the same.
SideNote: Why was this moved? We are having a discussion about actual manga footage
Amenotejikara
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Well it was a draw sooo. :bdpf:
Sasuke did get slandered for having and even using CM tho. Same will be with Boruto especially if it ends up his main power.
Naruto wasn't using his reserves vs Kaguya only when he made those mass kage bunshins. The rest of the time he was using the other bijuu's chakra. While Sasuke was in another dimension wasting chakra trying to get out.
People always say Naruto was weakened yet think Sasuke was 100% yet don't realize Sasuke came to the war using his own chakra and spamming high level techniques left and right and didn't get no chakra refill until he died. Same with Naruto. Both was weakened both had and used bijuu's chakra. Sasuke just mixed it together while Naruto had Kurama gather mass loads of nature energy.
JStar King
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Kishi said they were equal. Plus, Sasuke sused the Bijuu for his Susanoo, not himself. If he'd put the chakra into himself, it would be a whole different story. There would be no way he could lose other than an asspull or plot device.