[Discussion] Sasuke isnt wrong

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so you're saying that as long as you kill a criminal you're not guilty? try that in real life and we'll see what happens. if Sasuke was still a ninja of the Leaf he would have authorization to kill Orochimaru etc. since he ran away he doesn't have the right to kill anyone.

Sasuke was a genius when he was a kid, now he's just spamming with MS and he still sucks. just look how he got raped by each of the Kages. Sasuke only the second person to awaken EMS? oh really?


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Sasuke chose his way whether you like it or not AND he's still a genius, Naruto is spamming with Kyuubi mode too, if you really want to see it in that point of view. He's known as the second person to awake the EMS so as far as there are any other stories, I will believe this!
 

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Sasuke chose his way whether you like it or not AND he's still a genius, Naruto is spamming with Kyuubi mode too, if you really want to see it in that point of view.
you completely missed the point. I wasn't even talking about Sasuke making his choice, I said he doesn't have any right to kill someone even if it was an S-rank criminal. Naruto hasn't been one day in the war and he still switched between KM and SM. on the other side, Sasuke used only MS his last few battles in a longer time span. and I won't even start how Sasuke got his powers on a silver platter while Naruto had to actually work really hard to get where he is now.

He's known as the second person to awake the EMS so as far as there are any other stories, I will believe this!
sure, because we all know that believing in something is stronger than an actual proof. show me where it's said Sasuke is the 2nd person ever with the EMS.
 

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you completely missed the point. I wasn't even talking about Sasuke making his choice, I said he doesn't have any right to kill someone even if it was an S-rank criminal. Naruto hasn't been one day in the war and he still switched between KM and SM. on the other side, Sasuke used only MS his last few battles in a longer time span. and I won't even start how Sasuke got his powers on a silver platter while Naruto had to actually work really hard to get where he is now.



sure, because we all know that believing in something is stronger than an actual proof. show me where it's said Sasuke is the 2nd person ever with the EMS.

Sasuke got his powers on a silver platter but this is what makes the difference? If this is, you are wrong. At least Sasuke hasn't betrayed his clan actually he's the one who will try to fulfill the clan's objective!

How many persons are that have EMS? Madara and Sasuke!
 

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Sasuke got his powers on a silver platter but this is what makes the difference? If this is, you are wrong.
I was just replying to your comment that Sasuke has talent. that's not talent. if someone was to give you a million dollars for absolutely nothing, would people call you a talented businessman? I don't think so. they'd call you lucky.

At least Sasuke hasn't betrayed his clan actually he's the one who will try to fulfill the clan's objective!
what the hell? I don't know where this came from, but let me tell you one thing. for Sasuke, Itachi was more important than the village and yet he didn't respect his wishes. he wants to destroy the Leaf even though only 2 people alive know why will they die.

How many persons are that have EMS? Madara and Sasuke!
maybe that's because they're the only Uchiha left! wow, you really started a fail streak here. and I still see no proof for what you're saying.
 
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so you're saying that as long as you kill a criminal you're not guilty? try that in real life and we'll see what happens. if Sasuke was still a ninja of the Leaf he would have authorization to kill Orochimaru etc. since he ran away he doesn't have the right to kill anyone.
Is this not what Itachi wanted for Sasuke all along? He had planned for Sasuke to defect (there was no other way for Sasuke to attain such power) and kill him (an s-rank criminal).

Sasuke was a genius when he was a kid, now he's just spamming with MS and he still sucks. just look how he got raped by each of the Kages. Sasuke only the second person to awaken EMS? oh really?


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He's still a genius, his fighting style doesn't change that. No one else in Naruto can claim to attacked a five kage meeting and survived. He dealt some serious damage to some kage (Raikage lost his arm) and even he killed one.

And yes, Sasuke is the only known EMS wielder apart from Madara. Who else has/had EMS? please tell me
 
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I was just replying to your comment that Sasuke has talent. that's not talent. if someone was to give you a million dollars for absolutely nothing, would people call you a talented businessman? I don't think so. they'd call you lucky.



what the hell? I don't know where this came from, but let me tell you one thing. for Sasuke, Itachi was more important than the village and yet he didn't respect his wishes. he wants to destroy the Leaf even though only 2 people alive know why will they die.



maybe that's because they're the only Uchiha left! wow, you really started a fail streak here. and I still see no proof for what you're saying.

Well dude, Itachi is important to Sasuke but unlike Itachi who WOULD sacrifice his clans, Sasuke is more of a "patriot" of his clan and do not forget that for Sasuke his mother, father and all his clan are important too, they were disrespected, Sasuke is making them to pay!
 

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if you look at the image you see Itachi explaining how for decades the Uchiha killed their siblings for EMS
I think that's better proof than saying Sasuke is the second just because they are the only two Uchiha alive, don't you think?

-Kratos- you keep missing the point...who actually knows the truth about the massacre? two old farts! fine, he can kill them, I don't care. I don't see why the whole village must die. you fail to understand that they had nothing to do with it and still don't. how is it their fault the Uchiha were slaughtered? how can they disrespect them?
 

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if you look at the image you see Itachi explaining how for decades the Uchiha killed their siblings for EMS
I think that's better proof than saying Sasuke is the second just because they are the only two Uchiha alive, don't you think?

-Kratos- you keep missing the point...who actually knows the truth about the massacre? two old farts! fine, he can kill them, I don't care. I don't see why the whole village must die. you fail to understand that they had nothing to do with it and still don't. how is it their fault the Uchiha were slaughtered? how can they disrespect them?
Itachi doesn't know everything, in fact he may have lied - he does that a lot.

the fact is that the story would not be as interesting if Sasuke didn't wish to destroy the village. Kishi made that Sasuke's goal for the sake of the story.
besides Sasuke already explained why he wants to kill them all - he feels as though they're mocking Itachi and his sacrifice. anyway I do think it's rather somewhat stupid that he wants to kill all of them, but I understand it's for the sake of the story
 

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I agree with everything except your conclusion.Sasuke's life was ruined by the elders,and more importantly itachi who didn't kill him when the time came.He was screwed from the beginning,but every man must take his consequences,and sasuke kept looking in the past instead of the future where a lot of people where ready to help him succeed.From the third hokage all the way down to his team,who understood his pain and tried to help him,but unfortunately, sasuke was not strong enough and his jealousy of naruto grew out of hand.

He desperately wanted power,at any expense,so he embraced the darkness and hatred inside of him(helped by itachi,oro and madara).
He is not only a criminal.but a murderer,so he should be executed,but too much energy has been used on sasuke, in this series, too him not get some sort of resolve.Not by coming back to konoha,unless in a coffin,no he will get rid of the hatred with the help of naruto and either die as a hero or become a less emotional villain,perhaps even a vigilante.

A crime is a crime, so no sasuke is not innocent.
First off Konaho had no problem killing the children of the Uchia clan so why is it so wrong for Sasuke to do the same thing. Also you call him a murderer but so is almost everyone in this manga. In fact Shikamaru killed Hidan but he isn't a bad guy? you double standard BS is enough to make me throw up.
 

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Sasuke got his powers on a silver platter but this is what makes the difference? If this is, you are wrong. At least Sasuke hasn't betrayed his clan actually he's the one who will try to fulfill the clan's objective!

How many persons are that have EMS? Madara and Sasuke!
im srry but ur wrong the manga says they have been stealing each others eyes for it for generations.
and yes he has he is the last Uchiha and instead of giving honor to the name he is defiling it by becoming a criminal even the coup de tat wasn't on his lvl of betrayal because they weren't going to destroy the village they were just going to be changing leadership yes some would die but the village would go on if Sasuke gets his way the entire village will be destroyed
 

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im srry but ur wrong the manga says they have been stealing each others eyes for it for generations.
and yes he has he is the last Uchiha and instead of giving honor to the name he is defiling it by becoming a criminal even the coup de tat wasn't on his lvl of betrayal because they weren't going to destroy the village they were just going to be changing leadership yes some would die but the village would go on if Sasuke gets his way the entire village will be destroyed
The ENTIRE Uchia clan is no big deal. Yet the villiage being destroyed OH NO NOT THAT WAHHHHH!!! I can see what Sasuke is thinking now because there are people that discriminate on the UChia in real life. The only thing to do is wipe them all out so they can't discriminate. Who gives a damn about the villiage when they didn't give a damn about the Uchia clan.
 

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The ENTIRE Uchia clan is no big deal. Yet the villiage being destroyed OH NO NOT THAT WAHHHHH!!! I can see what Sasuke is thinking now because there are people that discriminate on the UChia in real life. The only thing to do is wipe them all out so they can't discriminate. Who gives a damn about the villiage when they didn't give a damn about the Uchia clan.
ummm that's not at all what i was saying
 

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He's still a genius, his fighting style doesn't change that. No one else in Naruto can claim to attacked a five kage meeting and survived. He dealt some serious damage to some kage (Raikage lost his arm) and even he killed one.

And yes, Sasuke is the only known EMS wielder apart from Madara. Who else has/had EMS? please tell me
If your smart but act like an idiot, should you still be called smart?
He didnt hurt Raikage, Raikages anger hurt himself, Danzo isnt/wasnt/ never will be kage material, Sasuke killed an old man with a face on his shoulder and eyes carved into his arm.


First off Konaho had no problem killing the children of the Uchia clan so why is it so wrong for Sasuke to do the same thing. Also you call him a murderer but so is almost everyone in this manga. In fact Shikamaru killed Hidan but he isn't a bad guy? you double standard BS is enough to make me throw up.
KONOHA DID NOTHING TO THE UCHIHA. THE ****ING ELDERS HAD NO PROBLEM KILLING THE UCHIHA KIDS, WHICH IS ****ING WHY ONLY THE ****ING ELDERS SHOULD ****ING DIE!!!

GAWD DAMMIT WHY IS IT THAT NOT A SOUL CAN ****ING LOOK AT THE SITUATION FOR WHAT IT IS?!?!?! THE ELDERS HAD THE UCHIHA KILLED, THE ELDERS ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE, THE ****ING ELDERS ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD DIE, DANZO HAD WHAT WAS COMING, BUT SASUKE HAS FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE 2 OTHER ELDERS AND JUST WANTS TO WIPE OUT A VILLAGE THAT USED TO LOVE AND PRAISE HIM FOR HIS BLOODLINE AND HERITAGE!!! ALL THOSE YEARS GETTING BUTT****ED BY OROCHIMARU MUST HAVE MADE HIM FORGET THAT ALL OF KONOHA LOVED HIS ASS ALONG WITH THE UCHIHAS. THE TURDBALL ELDERS DESERVE DEATH.

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THE ****ING UCHIHAS WANTED TO KILL OFF THE ENTIRE VILLAGE!!!!! THOSE GUYS, INSTEAD OF FINDING A PEACEFUL WAY OUT(WHICH WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THEM THE SUPPORT OF THE THIRD HOKAGE WHO ALSO WANTED A PEACEFUL RESOLUTION!!!) DECIDED TO KILL OFF THE VILLAGE, WHICH WOULD HAVE LED TO DAM NEAR EVERY OTHER VILLAGE ATTACKING THE NEW UCHIHA ONLY VILLAGE, WHICH WOULD MEAN THE UCHIHAS WOULD BE DEAD ANYWAYS AND AN ENTIRE COUNTRY WOULD FALL.

The Uchihas were wrong, the elders were wrong, THOSE are the only ones that should die. The elders for causing the massacre, and the uchihas(already dead) for being asswipes that cant plan a takeover for shit. Sasuke needs to kill the elders, then move on with his life, but its okay, Naruto will smack all of that bullshit right outa Sasukes ass
 

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First off Konaho had no problem killing the children of the Uchia clan so why is it so wrong for Sasuke to do the same thing. Also you call him a murderer but so is almost everyone in this manga. In fact Shikamaru killed Hidan but he isn't a bad guy? you double standard BS is enough to make me throw up.
You might be the most deluded fan i have ever seen.Double standard?Do you even know what authority mean?Laws?Criminals?Try take a gun and shoot somebody, who harmed you.And when you get locked up you can tell your lawyer that the police kill, so why shouldn't I? The elders(hokage) are the government, while shikamaru is soldier/shinobi,who was given permission to kill by tsunade,even though, technically, hidan is not dead:eek:
 
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