~Sasuke isnt done yet~

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If its permanent then I will be upset.

Naruto trying to bring him out of the darkness.. the one who was said to be the only one who could do it.. its all pointless now...
Maybe not, I'm sure that once Sasuke and Naruto see each other again, Sasuke will reminisce on Naruto and his love for the village and it will bring him even more clarity in his brother and his decision to protect the leaf.

And Itachi did say that he couldn't help Sasuke on his own. So he needed a little help, which he got from the kages
 

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Maybe not, I'm sure that once Sasuke and Naruto see each other again, Sasuke will reminisce on Naruto and his love for the village and it will bring him even more clarity in his brother and his decision to protect the leaf.

And Itachi did say that he couldn't help Sasuke on his own. So he needed a little help, which he got from the kages
Itachi said he was leaving it to Naruto not the fukin dead kages.... I wouldve loved it alot more for Naruto to drag him out of darkness..
 

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Naruto and Sasuke are supposed to be Yin and Yang of each other, if Sasuke was actually a good guy that would cease to be true.

Plus all of the build up to Naruto having to fight Sasuke, its obvious that the change isn't permanent or something will happen to him before its over.

Sasuke exists to be Naruto's nemesis, plus the EMS draws power from hatred, in order for him to rival Naruto, Sasuke must be consumed by hatred.
If what you said is true in the first part, then that would mean that if Naruto were to turn Sasuke good again, then it would ruin this yin/yang theory of yours too.

As far as the build up, they can still end up fighting without him having to be evil. And remember Naruto said that if they fight, they will end up dying. Both of them. I don't think the story is going to end that way, so clearly something had to change so they wouldn't end up fighting to the death.

Sasuke doesn't exist to be Naruto's nemesis, that's something that people who read too much into things assume. The sharingan in itself is the eye that reflects feelings, not just hatred, so who's to say that a love so strong that it cant be broken by evil wouldn't end up giving the sharingan a serious boost.
 

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Itachi said he was leaving it to Naruto not the fukin dead kages.... I wouldve loved it alot more for Naruto to drag him out of darkness..
Well technically that was a flashback, the last thing he said was that he's leaving it to Sasuke's friends, which implies more than one, which means that Naruto wasn't the only one who was supposed to help him, which means he was never the only one who could bring him out of darkness in the first place.

Don't get me wrong dude I can see why you would be upset at the new chapter but that doesn't mean things have become pointless. It actually makes sense the way things are now because at least Sasuke is doing what his brother wanted which is what all this is about anyway. But to each his/her own
 

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I don't understand why there are those of you who find the latest events hard to believe and say Sasuke's character has been made pointless. Don't get me wrong I respect your opinion I just don't see your point of view.

The very thing that made Sasuke dive into darkness in the first place was Itachi. It wasn't Hashirama that took him out of the darkness, it was Sasuke finally understanding that in the end his brother died leaving behind the protection of the village as his legacy, the same legacy that the village was founded on in the first place. If you ask me, Sasuke's character was pointless BEFORE this chapter, because it never made sense for him to want to continue to destroy the leaf after knowing his brother fought so hard just to keep it safe. Sure he was angry that his brother was used like that, but it was Itachi's choice, and one he wanted to make. You can't destroy the village in your brother's name when your brother wanted nothing more than for the village to be protected.

Also, this wasn't some sudden change after hearing a story from Hashirama. This change in Sasuke's persona has been going on ever since he fought with Edo Itachi and spoke with him. Knowing that his brother inherited the will of the first Hokage, the same will that the other Hokage as well as some notable Uchiha inherited simply helped him see his brother's point of view. In the end, if it was Itachi that brought him out of darkness. It's only fitting that the understanding of Itachi's will would make him turn good since the lack of understanding of his brother made him turn evil.

As far as the pages you posted and the point you made about Naruto being the one to set Sasuke free, I do understand where you are coming from with that to an extent. These recent events make it highly unlikely that Sasuke will end up fighting Naruto now (although there are still some holding on to that battle by a thread) and really has changed everything we thought we knew of the ending. But at the same time it just goes to show you that Kishi is far from predictable and you never know what he might do. He changes what we know on a whim at times.

I think Sasuke's change is permanent. It obviously has changed the course of the story, and if you were stuck on the old path of the storyline this may be hard for you to accept. But if you really stop and think about it, for the first time in awhile Sasuke finally did something that made sense when it came to his brother

I think Naruto is the final key to his full change (so it's not a perm thing.. yet), though I plusrep you since most of this I agree with.
 

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Well technically that was a flashback, the last thing he said was that he's leaving it to Sasuke's friends, which implies more than one, which means that Naruto wasn't the only one who was supposed to help him, which means he was never the only one who could bring him out of darkness in the first place.

Don't get me wrong dude I can see why you would be upset at the new chapter but that doesn't mean things have become pointless. It actually makes sense the way things are now because at least Sasuke is doing what his brother wanted which is what all this is about anyway. But to each his/her own
So your saying when Itachi said friends.. he meant the Kages O__O yah that makes more since
 

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This is just a theory, but the same thing happened with Hashirama and Madara, they became buddies again for a while only for their friendship to be ripped apart again.

Maybe this is the same thing.
 

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I think Naruto is the final key to his full change (so it's not a perm thing.. yet), though I plusrep you since most of this I agree with.
Yes like I told the thread maker I think upon seeing Naruto again and having time to reflect on everything he and Naruto have been through it will confirm in his mind the choice he made to protect the village. Most likely Madara will try to twist Sasuke's thoughts like the thread maker said and Naruto will tell him that he spoke to Itachi and that Itachi entrusted Sasuke to him and Sasuke will turn good once and for all
 

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I kinda feel the same way. I have a feeling that the situation between Naruto and Sasuke will be similar to Hashirama/Madara. They became friends again, but there is always something that triggers the conflict between those two. Looking back at this page ( ), I think that the ending of the Fourth War will not end everything. I don't feel that this change is permanent; but right now, there is nothing we know of that will trigger a conflict between those two.

Very good theory. ^^
 

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It will probably follow the same role as madara as hashi. I mean think about it, sasuke becomes good again for his brother, then goes crazy after a while because him and naruto don't see eye to eye or something.
 
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