Sasuke is the strongest person

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That's quite a bit to read, I do have the time at the moment.. Not trying to be rude, but couldn't you just tell me what I'm looking for?

 

[DHOH]

we all would assume that obito is dead, 1 time coming back from the death is enough. ask yourself this, why would obito take his eyes back? who's he gonna fight in the afterlife?

Obito didn't give Kakashi his eyes, he game him his power/chakra/ soul lol.

 

[UzumakiWade]

I agree it's possible, but you got to agree that it's not as possible as Sasuke mastering the rinnengan.

We all know how Naruto learn the S rank juts and it had very little to do with him being a genius..

It is definitely just as possible as Sasuke mastering the rinnegan, Naruto acts dumb for comedic relief, most MC's are generally stupid just for comic relief. Look at Luffy for another example, he was standing there trying to untie zoro in the marine base while the men were trying to shoot him with guns and cut him down with swords. I know he was resistant to them, but seriously who stands there while someone attacks? Its just the MC's role to be a bit stupid for comedic relief. In actuality when Naruto is serious, he gets shit done, Even Rasengan, he legitimately learned in three days when it took his dad 3 years, might i add Minato is probably hell of a lot more of a genius than Sasuke. Naruto can even use some of his stupidity for good purposes, just by looking at a cat rolling the water balloon back and forth he figured out he could do the same and finished the first step of learning rasengan just like that. Sasuke is named as a prodigy and genius to hype up the uchiha clan, not bashing here, he is a genius, but when Naruto is serious then im pretty sure they're both on par when it comes to being geniuses.

 

[Retsu]

It's very true... Take wind for instance...he's been having that element his whole life and use resengan only with it.

It's due to his chakra cloak, it gives him enough variety and versatility that most other jutsu are pointless. Naruto can attack from any range using most of his abilities so he has no need to create huge varieties of jutsus, his basic abilities with a chakra cloak/mode is flat out better than using a jutsu I'm most cases such as flight and extendable limbs.

His defense is on par with susanoo with the cloak activated and flight and extendable chakra arms means his rasengan has more range and coverage than some ppl's entire arsenal of jutsu even if they span multiple element natures. The fact that he only has 1 wind jutsu means nothing when it trumps all most anything else one may have to offer.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Obito didn't give Kakashi his eyes, he game him his power/chakra/ soul lol.

he actually gave him his eyes, are you trying to change subjects and drag this even further? read chapter 688 as i said.

 

[DHOH]

It is definitely just as possible as Sasuke mastering the rinnegan, Naruto acts dumb for comedic relief, most MC's are generally stupid just for comic relief. Look at Luffy for another example, he was standing there trying to untie zoro in the marine base while the men were trying to shoot him with guns and cut him down with swords. I know he was resistant to them, but seriously who stands there while someone attacks? Its just the MC's role to be a bit stupid for comedic relief. In actuality when Naruto is serious, he gets shit done, Even Rasengan, he legitimately learned in three days when it took his dad 3 years, might i add Minato is probably hell of a lot more of a genius than Sasuke. Naruto can even use some of his stupidity for good purposes, just by looking at a cat rolling the water balloon back and forth he figured out he could do the same and finished the first step of learning rasengan just like that. Sasuke is named as a prodigy and genius to hype up the uchiha clan, not bashing here, he is a genius, but when Naruto is serious then im pretty sure they're both on par when it comes to being geniuses.

I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree..
The minato part I wouk like to address.. I used to think minato was a genius amongst genius before the war.. But the war just made mins to look weak and dumb IMO.. So no I do think minato is a better genius than saauke..

It's also a huge difference in creating something from nothing to teaching some how to make something that is already created, so naruto doesn't get any credit for that.

 

[DHOH]

It's due to his chakra cloak, it gives him enough variety and versatility that most other jutsu are pointless. Naruto can attack from any range using most of his abilities so he has no need to create huge varieties of jutsus, his basic abilities with a chakra cloak/mode is flat out better than using a jutsu I'm most cases such as flight and extendable limbs.

His defense is on par with susanoo with the cloak activated and flight and extendable chakra arms means his rasengan has more range and coverage than some ppl's entire arsenal of jutsu even if they span multiple element natures. The fact that he only has 1 wind jutsu means nothing when it trumps all most anything else one may have to offer.

I agree about everything thing you said about the chakra cloak, but there was a period in time where naruto decided not to use kurama's powers yet he didn't advance his arsenal..

 

[take it easy]

I agree about everything thing you said about the chakra cloak, but there was a period in time where naruto decided not to use kurama's powers yet he didn't advance his arsenal..

He add in his arsenal SM (supplementary class jutsu), Sensing (another supplementary class ninjutsu) and Frog Kata.

It's also a huge difference in creating something from nothing to teaching some how to make something that is already created, so naruto doesn't get any credit for that.

Minato created rasengan from TB. Just saying.

 

[DHOH]

he actually gave him his eyes, are you trying to change subjects and drag this even further? read chapter 688 as i said.

Ok.. I went back and read that chapter again for the second time today for you.. Obito didn't give kakashi his eyes.. Obito's eyes were turn to ash by kaguya when she killed him.. That's exactly why obito claim the gift would expire... Obito gave Kakashi his power/chakra, not something physical because obito wasn't there physically.. He was ash.. That's the best way I can explain it..

 

[DHOH]

He add in his arsenal SM (supplementary class jutsu), Sensing (another supplementary class ninjutsu) and Frog Kata.

Minato created rasengan from TB. Just saying.

Getting the ideal and creating it is not the same.. Minato had to figure out everything, naruto was told everything

 

[UzumakiWade]

I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree..
The minato part I wouk like to address.. I used to think minato was a genius amongst genius before the war.. But the war just made mins to look weak and dumb IMO.. So no I do think minato is a better genius than saauke..

It's also a huge difference in creating something from nothing to teaching some how to make something that is already created, so naruto doesn't get any credit for that.

How does the war show minato to be dumb exactly? I honestly think he is still a much better genius than sasuke. Rasenshuriken, Naruto created that himself, he still mastered something which took the original creator 3 years to master, Naruto deserves credit for that.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Ok.. I went back and read that chapter again for the second time today for you.. Obito didn't give kakashi his eyes.. Obito's eyes were turn to ash by kaguya when she killed him.. That's exactly why obito claim the gift would expire... Obito gave Kakashi his power/chakra, not something physical because obito wasn't there physically.. He was ash.. That's the best way I can explain it..

power/chakra itself can't find you a mangekyou sharingan.

 

[DHOH]

power/chakra itself can't find you a mangekyou sharingan.

It found naruto RSM and Sasuke rinnengan

 

[take it easy]

Getting the ideal and creating it is not the same.. Minato had to figure out everything, naruto was told everything

Don't change the fact that it was Naruto who created jutsu.

 

[DHOH]

How does the war show minato to be dumb exactly? I honestly think he is still a much better genius than sasuke. Rasenshuriken, Naruto created that himself, he still mastered something which took the original creator 3 years to master, Naruto deserves credit for that.

Minato was basically told what to do by tobirama the entire war.
Tobirama and naruto figured out how to hurt Obito
Minato announced this super jutsu he had that only got his arm cut off..
Naruto came up with the plan to save the alliance
Minato basically became a battery for naruto.. Not bashing here..

I agree naruto deserve a lot credit for making the RS... But to be called a genius kakashi shouldn't had to tell him how clones work and he was using them for years..

 

[DHOH]

Don't change the fact that it was Naruto who created jutsu.

That's the point. Naruto didn't create the resengan, he learn it.

 

[Xlad]

First, it's Madara fanboys. Now this? Zzz

 

[UzumakiWade]

Minato was basically told what to do by tobirama the entire war.
Tobirama and naruto figured out how to hurt Obito
Minato announced this super jutsu he had that only got his arm cut off..
Naruto came up with the plan to save the alliance
Minato basically became a battery for naruto.. Not bashing here..

I agree naruto deserve a lot credit for making the RS... But to be called a genius kakashi shouldn't had to tell him how clones work and he was using them for years..

Obviously Naruto would be playing a bigger role during the battle.
Also, Tobirama is Minato's superior and knows more about FTG than Minato, with his experience he would know more about how to efficiently use another FTG user to his advantage.

Plus, most of Sasuke's jutsu were taught to him until MS, same for Naruto. So i don't really see how Sasuke is superior in any way in intelligence.

 

[take it easy]

That's the point. Naruto didn't create the resengan, he learn it.

I agree with you.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

It found naruto RSM and Sasuke rinnengan

no it didn't, rinnegan sasuke was because of hashirama cells, hagoromo only gave them seals.