Sasuke is the greatest Uchiha ever!
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Garbage troll thread. I will now contradict (and most likely prove wrong) everything in bold.
First on the list, Sasuke never surpass Madara Uchiha and thats a fact. Madara has awakened the Rinnegan, and comparing his power to sasuke's is like comparing Chuck Norris to a fly.
Second, Sasuke's breaking through tsukiyomi was no great feat. He shares Itachi's blood, making him the only living person qualified to break out of it. Really, nothing special.
Third, I'm sorry, it's actually chidori razor spear, and I'm pretty sure you did not compare it with rasenshuriken. You would have to be an idiot of immense proportion to believe sasuke's chidori razor spear could touch the rasenshuriken.
He doesn't own amaterasu, he probably never would have known about amaterasu had itachi not shown him that power or sealed it within him to react to obito's sharingan. And his susanoo is not nearly as scary or menacing looking as madara's susanoo. It's scary as crap, and it's much bigger and stronger. Where did you get the hawk-face from?
Sasuke by all rights should have lost to Naruto at the Valley of the End. If Naruto hadn't wanted to prove a point, he wouldn't have broken off his rasengan and at best, it wuold have been a stalemate between their two attacks. And how does your conversation about Pein do anything except prove Sasuke can't touch Naruto, who can't beat Madara, who can't be touched by Sasuke?
Madara did stay true to the Uchiha name. Even now, he went out of his way to kill Tsunade, the descendant of Hashirama Senju, first out of the 5 kage fighting against him? (see uchiha's curse of hatred) Plus, he is no disgrace, he tried helping the clan and they gave up on him, yet he still fought for them against Hashirama, which by the way, was a legit fight, he just saw Hashi's blood and put it in himself, (god knows how he didn't get AIDS) it's called planning ahead.
Madara's powers are his own. His mokuton belonged to Hashirama, but if you really want to argue your point about Sasuke "owning" amaterasu, you have to say, Madara owns mokuton, by that stupid logic, don't make exceptions.
Orochimaru and Kabuto have nothing to do with Madara. He's never met them in his life, or heard of them. They were children when he was old enough to be their grandfather! In other words, Madara is a successful (more or less) self made man.
Sasuke is not as noble as Madara. There's no counter-argument for that point, but there really is no argument for it, so we'll let that one slide. That last sentence did make much sense, but if I interepreted it right, you're saying he didn't want to show his brother's eyes things that Itachi wouldn't like. Then why the hell is he killing Konaha shinobi?
The fact that you think Sasuke has surpassed Madara made me wonder if you were messing, but I guess you weren't. Madara LITERALLY ROFLstomps Sasuke. He steps on Sasuke with his huge susanoo, and that's the end. And if that doesn't work, he slices sasuke in half with his sword, Sasuke can't stop him with his Susanno weapons, the defensive power of the perfect susanoo is nearly impenetrable. I guess I could care less about YOU.
Itachi said that about Obito who is a bitter defeated loser, he didn't know about the real Madara. He called Obito a bitter defeated loser based on facts he knew about Obito. You should really read the manga.
Madara is, and always will be, the greatest ever in the extinct Uchiha clan
By the power vested in me, I declare this crappy thread CLOSED!
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Sasuke beat Naruto in the Final Valley. A tie is when both competitors are both unconscious on the ground!
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First of all, I can tell from your signature how much hatred for Sasuke is vested in you. So I shouldn't even dignify this garbage with a response.
Madara awakened the Rinnegan when he was an old bag of wrinkles and bones, after getting his butt kicked by Hashirama and patiently waiting for death like a b!tch! If anything, the credit goes to the Senju cells he stole and the Uchiha heritage he despises.
The Chidori sword is a combination of Raiton chakra nature and shape manipulation. Rasen Shuriken is the same thing with wind chakra. Why wouldn't I compare the two? It is the same type of accomplishment in chakra manipulation.
Are you on drugs? Sasuke awakened the Mangekyou Sharingan after witnessing Itachi's death, albeit, it took some time. Enton Kagutsuchi and Amaterasu are the powers of Sasuke's eyes, Itachi didn't give him those powers, they are Sasuke's own MS abilities! Get that through your thick little head.
The attack on Tobi was a one time thing and nothing more. That's why Itachi's MS manifested itself in Sasuke's eye.
Get a pair of glasses and look at Sasuke's Susanoo, it has the face of a hawk! Sasuke has also been likened to a hawk like a million times in the manga so it's no surprise.
Sasuke and Naruto tied, it's simple as that.
Madara is a disgrace. He abandoned the clan because he couldn't stand being inferior to Hashirama when they chose him as the Hokage and not him. Even the Uchiha clan could see through his selfish desire for being in power. He attacked his own village with the Kyuubi to get back at him and Hashirama put him in his place. That's truly pathetic.
Madara having Mokuton is nothing like Sasuke's own MS ability. With that statement, you have established yourself as a Madara fanboy in my eyes forever. Madara has Hashirama's face sticking out from his chest thanks to Orochimaru's experiments. He was a lab rat, a guinea pig. He was meant to serve under Kabuto in the war, but lucky for him he knew Tobirama and the seal to escape the contract.
Orochimaru and Kabuto created Edo Madara, he is their illegitimate lab child. Accept it, it's a fact! He wouldn't even exist if not for them, Obito wasn't even gonna resurrect his arrogant as$.
Madara was the one who got his as$ beat by Hashirama, collected his cells and plotted world domination while WAITING in some godforsaken cave for Hashirama to die. He is, in every sense of the word, a bitter loser!
Sasuke carries the entire nobility of the Uchiha clan within himself now. Madara abandoned his clan, he hated them for choosing Hashirama. He was just another power hungry ego maniac who only cared about himself. He is no better than Danzo.
Sasuke is doing it all for his parents and clan, while Madara felt betrayed by his clan when they made the logical choice and abandoned them, plotted his revenge.
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I can say with all honestly that not only am I NOT a fanboy of Madara, buti think he is the cheapest character as of right now.
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That guy is a hardcore Madara fanboy and a Sasuke hater. You agreed with him. Everything he wrote was nothing short of complete garbage.
Here's one of his points, Orochimaru and Kabuto didn't give Edo Madara his powers. You really agree with that?
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Apologies, I should have clarified, I agree with some of his arguments and the argument as a whole. Sorry for the mix up.