Sasuke is stronger than Madara if you don't count hacked powers.

[mohdzarif]

Hagoromo gave Sasuke the tomoed Rinnegan, what are you *****ing about? While Naruto got the Rikudou Senjutsu. The Rinnegan is a free power-up that he didn't strive to obtain it.

Why don't we compare EMS Madara and EMS Sasuke. EMS Madara >>>>> EMS Sasuke. Larger PS, very huge chakra pool, superior Katon, superior taijutsu, better bukijutsu.

 

[Zlatán]

Sasuke > Madara

Madara died 3 times if he is so strong and superior he wouldn't died a record number of times.

 

[Zlatán]

Hagoromo gave Sasuke the tomoed Rinnegan, what are you *****ing about? While Naruto got the Rikudou Senjutsu. The Rinnegan is a free power-up that he didn't strive to obtain it.

Why don't we compare EMS Madara and EMS Sasuke. EMS Madara >>>>> EMS Sasuke. Larger PS, very huge chakra pool, superior Katon, superior taijutsu, better bukijutsu.

Naruto got the biggest free power taking the power of 9 jinchuuriki's PLUS Senjutsu

 

[Sageof7Path]

Hagoromo gave Sasuke the tomoed Rinnegan, what are you *****ing about? While Naruto got the Rikudou Senjutsu. The Rinnegan is a free power-up that he didn't strive to obtain it.

Why don't we compare EMS Madara and EMS Sasuke. EMS Madara >>>>> EMS Sasuke. Larger PS, very huge chakra pool, superior Katon, superior taijutsu, better bukijutsu.

Sasuke didn't have to steal that power he was given it unlike Madara. Why didn't Hagaromo appear to Madara? Because Madara wasn't worthy.

 

[~Ethereal~]

That right there proves your bias.

Lol, I like Sasuke more than Madara, but come on the guy is too much for Sasuke.

 

[frozen5]

Sasuke > Madara

Madara died 3 times if he is so strong and superior he wouldn't died a record number of times.

you think sasuke would fare better against madara's opponents?

 

[frozen5]

Naruto got the biggest free power taking the power of 9 jinchuuriki's PLUS Senjutsu

dont encourage him

 

[Sageof7Path]

Lol, I like Sasuke more than Madara, but come on the guy is too much for Sasuke.

I'm talking not counting stolen powers like juubi jin or rinnegan or senju dna. Sasuke's powers where granted by the sage himself. Sasuke can beat Madara without any hacks.

 

[loadsamoney]

no sasuke didn't work for perfect susanoo
he just could handed upgrades

 

[Sageof7Path]

no sasuke didn't work for perfect susanoo
he just could handed upgrades

But he didn't steal perfect Susanoo either. Madara got perfect susanoo after taking his brothers eyes Sasuke did not he got his after the sage gave him the rinnegan.

 

[frozen5]

I'm talking not counting stolen powers like juubi jin or rinnegan or senju dna. Sasuke's powers where granted by the sage himself. Sasuke can beat Madara without any hacks.

so you are trying to say..... by fighting and actually outsmarting your opponent to obtain a power is "stolen" and shouldnt be counted but a power that was just handed to you should? that makes 0 sense

 

[Sageof7Path]

so you are trying to say..... by fighting and actually outsmarting your opponent to obtain a power is "stolen" and shouldnt be counted but a power that was just handed to you should? that makes 0 sense

He didn't outsmart Hashirama he straight up bit him and swallowed his meat. Yes because Madara searched for power no one gave him any power he actually had the goal to steal power that wasn't his and then brags about how strong he is.

Madara naturally without stolen eyes is no stronger than Sasuke before he obtained the rinnegan.

 

[frozen5]

He didn't outsmart Hashirama he straight up bit him and swallowed his meat. Yes because Madara searched for power no one gave him any power he actually had the goal to steal power that wasn't his and then brags about how strong he is.

Madara naturally without stolen eyes is no stronger than Sasuke before he obtained the rinnegan.

stolen eyes? what eyes did madara steal? izuna gave madara his eyes and madara fought to death then izanagied himself to life.. if that is not outsmarting your oppent idk what is.... put sasuke in madara's shoes he would have been pulverized before he could reach madara's age

 

[mohdzarif]

Sasuke didn't have to steal that power he was given it unlike Madara. Why didn't Hagaromo appear to Madara? Because Madara wasn't worthy.

Talking about stealing. Let's see....

Sasuke stole Itachi's eyes without his consent. Izuna entrusted Madara with his eyes to protect the Uchiha clan. Sasuke also freely got handed with Hashirama's cells via Kabuto without him realizing it. Sasuke is as bad if not worse than Madara.

Obtaining free powers without striving for it is lamer than Madara stealing Hashirama's cell. Not to mention, Sasuke only got it because Hagoromo felt that he neglected Indra, Sasuke never deserved Hagoromo's gift at the first place. It's supposed to be only for Naruto LolLolLol.

 

[Sageof7Path]

stolen eyes? what eyes did madara steal? izuna gave madara his eyes and madara fought to death then izanagied himself to life.. if that is not outsmarting your oppent idk what is.... put sasuke in madara's shoes he would have been pulverized before he could reach madara's age

He could have said no him taken Izunas eyes so he doesn't go blind is basically him achiving power that isn't his own. Did Sasuke have to take the sages eyes out of his skull and put them in his? No. It was power the sage awakened in Sasuke because Sasuke had the potential. Madara did not. No Sasuke is a way better fighter who can rely way less on his sharingan and hacked edo abilities.

 

[Sageof7Path]

Talking about stealing. Let's see....

Sasuke stole Itachi's eyes without his consent. Izuna entrusted Madara with his eyes to protect the Uchiha clan. Sasuke also freely got handed with Hashirama's cells via Kabuto without him realizing it. Sasuke is as bad if not worse than Madara.

Obtaining free powers without striving for it is lamer than Madara stealing Hashirama's cell. Not to mention, Sasuke only got it because Hagoromo felt that he neglected Indra, Sasuke never deserved Hagoromo's gift at the first place. It's supposed to be only for Naruto LolLolLol.

Sasuke may have stolen Itachi's eyes but the point of this thread was me talking about who has the best non stolen power and Sasuke does have WAAAYYY better non stolen powers than Madara. Sasuke was chosen by the sage of 6 paths to awaken the rinnegan. As far as I'm concerned that's Sasuke's natural ability. Madara on the other hand without sinju dna and his brothers eyes is nothing more than a fodder who could probably be solo'd by Itachi Uchiha.

 

[frozen5]

He could have said no him taken Izunas eyes so he doesn't go blind is basically him achiving power that isn't his own. Did Sasuke have to take the sages eyes out of his skull and put them in his? No. It was power the sage awakened in Sasuke because Sasuke had the potential. Madara did not. No Sasuke is a way better fighter who can rely way less on his sharingan and hacked edo abilities.

sasuke took itachi's eye and put it in his skull...madara would utterly destroy sasuke if they both didnt use sharingan.... the sage didnt give hashi and madara power because the hatred skill existed in indra's incarnate.

face it madara gained his powers like a real ninja would... using all the tricks you possibly can... if you look at handouts as better than actually going and get the power you desire then.....idk anymore

also its not senju DNA that gave madara rennigan it was ashura's chakra that did and its the same thing that gave sasuke his rennigan just that his was handed to him...

 

[Sageof7Path]

sasuke took itachi's eye and put it in his skull...madara would utterly destroy sasuke if they both didnt use sharingan.... the sage didnt give hashi and madara power because the hatred skill existed in indra's incarnate.

face it madara gained his powers like a real ninja would... using all the tricks you possibly can... if you look at handouts as better than actually going and get the power you desire then.....idk anymore

That's why I'm not counting Sasuke's eyes lololol. You guys are the one's who keeps wanting to count Izunas eyes as part of Madaras natural potential when it's not. I simply said let's exclude that stuff and look at natural potential. Madara has EMS while Sasuke has the strongest Rinnegan.

 

[mohdzarif]

Sasuke may have stolen Itachi's eyes but the point of this thread was me talking about who has the best non stolen power and Sasuke does have WAAAYYY better non stolen powers than Madara. Sasuke was chosen by the sage of 6 paths to awaken the rinnegan. As far as I'm concerned that's Sasuke's natural ability. Madara on the other hand without sinju dna and his brothers eyes is nothing more than a fodder who could probably be solo'd by Itachi Uchiha.

You are funny.

Sasuke's Rinnegan is his natural ability LMFAO. What a retarded statement XD. If you are talking about natural, then the one who naturally awakened Hagoromo's double Rinnegan was Madara. He needed to wait for years for it to be awakened, while Sasuke got it freely for like 5 minutes, how lame.

B!*ch please, Madara was an Uchiha genius of his generation. He could solo experienced Senju adults in his childhood even before awakening his Sharingan. He was the only Uchiha who could fight Hashirama one-on-one since their childhood. Even before obtaining EMS, he was the only one that could fight Hashirama.

Talking about Itachi, Yata and Totsuka are also not his original powers in the first place.

Actually, talking about stolen or borrowed powers is kinda pointless, your favorite Obito also got patched with Hashirama's cells for a large portion of his body when he was just 13 years old Lol. How lame. XD

 

[frozen5]

That's why I'm not counting Sasuke's eyes lololol. You guys are the one's who keeps wanting to count Izunas eyes as part of Madaras natural potential when it's not. I simply said let's exclude that stuff and look at natural potential. Madara has EMS while Sasuke has the strongest Rinnegan.

you fail to realise madara got his rennigan almost the same way sauske did...except madara got his directly from the ahura incarnate