Sasuke is still holding back to match Naruto in power

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Wrong, Naruto actually let Kurama take over when he was angered or felt extreme emotional pain, not only because he was going to die, he tells this to the toads. Also since Sasuke would be fighting to kill Naruto, he's highly likely to push Naruto into going 4 tails because Natuto new not to go 4 tails yet still did when Orochimaru egged him on.

And I see you forgot that base Sasuke was only stronger due to taking the pill that the sound 4 gave him, before that Naruto was stronger in base since he could have killed Sasuke on the rooftop. You seem to not care when Sasuke gets a power up but when Naruto uses his power you deem it not his power. If it's in their arsenal then it's there power. Naruto actually worked to learn to use Kurama's power so it's his. Even if Kurama takes over, look at the CM, it slowly turns the person into Orochimaru slave, it eats up at the person's body, and it made then evil (Sasuke first use made him dark and unlike his self at that time).

And you saying the power ups made Sasuke stronger than Naruto in the VoTE but Naruto had 3 power up in the present chapters so you're saying Sasuke is 2 levels behind Naruto then. Also I see you chose to ignore the fact that Naruto was fight the sound 4 with his group before fighting Sasuke so it's not like he was at full power. He even went initial Kurama chakra on Kimminaru.

As for the weak comment, unlike Sasuke Naruto chose the harder path and lived they the pain and hardship and made others accept him. Gaara who was in the dark even chose to work hard and earn his village's acknowledgement which changed Gaara for the better.
nothing unbias about this guys post at all :snick:
 

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That's a BS statement. I agree with everything else you're saying, but that's just ludicrous to say.

Sasuke does not have what it takes to make tough decisions. His whole life he dedicated himself to revenge, which is a childish way to live your life. Al Sasuke cares about is his own goals, which is why he would be a horrible Hokage. Until Naruto sheds some light on him of course.
let me rephrase. has what it takes to get his hands dirty for his cause. Naruto doesn't
 

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let me rephrase. has what it takes to get his hands dirty for his cause. Naruto doesn't
That's true I guess. I don't think that would make him a better Hokage though. People who have 'gotten their hands dirty' in this series have ended up creating the villains.

Danzo created Nagato, Sasuke, and Kabuto. Tobirama created Edo Tensei. Hardly a reason to consider someone mentally stronger than someone else. It just means they're more of a d*ck.
 

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Wrong, Naruto actually let Kurama take over when he was angered or felt extreme emotional pain, not only because he was going to die, he tells this to the toads. Also since Sasuke would be fighting to kill Naruto, he's highly likely to push Naruto into going 4 tails because Natuto new not to go 4 tails yet still did when Orochimaru egged him on.

And I see you forgot that base Sasuke was only stronger due to taking the pill that the sound 4 gave him, before that Naruto was stronger in base since he could have killed Sasuke on the rooftop. You seem to not care when Sasuke gets a power up but when Naruto uses his power you deem it not his power. If it's in their arsenal then it's there power. Naruto actually worked to learn to use Kurama's power so it's his. Even if Kurama takes over, look at the CM, it slowly turns the person into Orochimaru slave, it eats up at the person's body, and it made then evil (Sasuke first use made him dark and unlike his self at that time).

And you saying the power ups made Sasuke stronger than Naruto in the VoTE but Naruto had 3 power up in the present chapters so you're saying Sasuke is 2 levels behind Naruto then. Also I see you chose to ignore the fact that Naruto was fight the sound 4 with his group before fighting Sasuke so it's not like he was at full power. He even went initial Kurama chakra on Kimminaru.

As for the weak comment, unlike Sasuke Naruto chose the harder path and lived they the pain and hardship and made others accept him. Gaara who was in the dark even chose to work hard and earn his village's acknowledgement which changed Gaara for the better.
even if he lets kurama take over, its still no longer naruto its kurama.

the key difference between rooftop sasuke and vote sasuke is the full three tomoe sharingan. take away the curse mark and take away kurama and sasuke is still superior thanks to this kkg.

this isn't about the present. their power ups now have no pattern. in that fight their power ups had a pattern
 

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That's true I guess. I don't think that would make him a better Hokage though. People who have 'gotten their hands dirty' in this series have ended up creating the villains.

Danzo created Nagato, Sasuke, and Kabuto. Tobirama created Edo Tensei. Hardly a reason to consider someone mentally stronger than someone else. It just means they're more of a d*ck.
I guess you have a point
 

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Agreed. As soon as Sasuke pulled out PS, an instant connection is made to Madara's from two characters. Hashirama's is more relevant. Which means, Sasuke is holding back the size for now. I will not agree on Amaterasu and FRS combo, as it was simple Chakra adjustment. Nor will I agree on mixing of Naruto and Sasuke's PS.

Sasuke simply encased BM Naruto's form with his PS, just like Madara did with Kurama. The only thing Naruto added for Natural Energy to inflict damage on Obito. So, no mixing for BM and PS. Those are my disagreements. I completely agree with the rest.


Kind of like all your threads.
Brilliant - kind of like all your - responses.
 

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This thread keep a bit of truth, that is nice thing to read but there is too much bullshit and assumptions brought mixed in entire text to call it interesting or legit.

Anyway even if Sasuke's 100% PS will be > Current BSM Naruto then

100%Kurama (BM) Naruto = 100% PS Sasuke, and finally

100% Kurama BSM Naruto> 100% PS Sasuke , simple as that.

In the end, Naruto will trump ;)
 

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This thread keep a bit of truth, that is nice thing to read but there is too much bullshit and assumptions brought mixed in entire text to call it interesting or legit.

Anyway even if Sasuke's 100% PS will be > Current BSM Naruto then

100%Kurama (BM) Naruto = 100% PS Sasuke, and finally

100% Kurama BSM Naruto> 100% PS Sasuke , simple as that.

In the end, Naruto will trump ;)
Your right.. However you forget to factor in Sasuke's Enton PS Susanoo

Which will be >= BSM Kurama
 

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Your right.. However you forget to factor in Sasuke's Enton PS Susanoo

Which will be >= BSM Kurama
wrong, only logical conclusion could be:

Enton coated 100% PS of Sasuke= 100% BSM Naruto, or Enton coated 100% PS of Sasuke=< 100% BSM Naruto

you choose, unless Sasuke will get Rinnegan then he won't be stronger/surprass Naruto in the end of the Manga.

but Naruto could still get tailed beasts chakra and even something from SOSP himself... but it depends on Kishi.

Sorry but I have never trolled with any character, also I am just stating the manga facts while reffering to logic.

So you are wrong Mellanoma..., Sasuke will never surprass Naruto in final moment of manga.

He may surprass Current Naruto but END of manga Naruto >= End of Manga Sasuke

Always and forever ;)
 
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