Sasuke is Most Strong Ninja In Naruto..

[GodaimeRaikage]

sasuke using manda show that he a quick thinker and not weak.
sasuke was not really fighting killerbee.He came to "CAPTURE HIM" not to kill him and he did not have any grudge toward him from the start of the battle.

Using manda show that without Orochimaru's power Sasuke would have die in the explosion.Actually, without orochimaru's curse seal Diedara would have never needed to used his final jutsu, sasuke would have been no match for him without the curse seal.You are right, sasuke wasn't really fighting Bee, he was getting his a** kicked by Bee.You reason for why is nonsense.Bee was treating sasuke like a pimp treats his hoe and sasuke couldn't do anything about it.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

Using manda show that without Orochimaru's power Sasuke would have die in the explosion.Actually, without orochimaru's curse seal Diedara would have never needed to used his final jutsu, sasuke would have been no match for him without the curse seal.You are right, sasuke wasn't really fighting Bee, he was getting his a** kicked by Bee.You reason for why is nonsense.Bee was treating sasuke like a pimp treats his hoe and sasuke couldn't do anything about it.

u will see when sasuke come on the battle field with OP mode next manga(hopefully).

 

[lXxNaGaToxXl]

Then Tell me who's Stronger Than EMS sasuke ? @ Gaarafan12

uh madara, naruto, maybe even bee. we have no idea what EMS does so we have to wait and see. sasuke im not a big fan of, but i cannot hate he is a good shinobi and very powerfu,l but his fighting style is what brings him down he just spams sasunoo when he got it. hence why he went blind in a few weeks of getting his M.S.

 

[Protozoid]

I told myself I wouldn't even bother clicking on threads like these but ah well...

1. Oro was literally disabled.
2. Deidara killed himself.
3. He nearly got killed by Bee twice.
4. Raikage could have killed him also.
5. He isn't the strongest, so get off of his lap.

And thats a wrap.

@1: Yep. The victory against Orochimaru wasn't much of a big deal. Regardless, he still came out victorious and countered some of his signature techniques (i.e. The White Snake transformation [that's not necessarily a laughing matter]).
@2: Yes, Deidara did kill himself. But does that make it any less of a victory? No. It doesn't. There wasn't anything else Deidara could do so that was naturally a last resort. In other words, that victory was completely and totally legitimate.
@3: Sasuke > Bee. JS.
@4: Raikage didn't beat Sasuke. Could have. Would have. All the same he didn't. That's the bottom line.
@5: Agreed. But he's stronger than you and many other Anti-Sasuke people give him credit for.

 

[kaka96]

Shawnd V.2 ... or an alt...

 

[NaruuSakuu]

Narutos the strongest!

 

[ultimate ninja king]

Naruto is the strongest, he is like a saiyan, he gets really powerful with each fight

 

[lanakau888]

Okay, he Beat Orochimaru ( The Guy who was about To destroy konoha)

A weakened orochimaru, and the battle was a battle of genjutsu, which the uchiha excel at.

He Beat Deidara ( who Beat Gaara and Most Sand Ninjas)

Deidara is only mid-low level akatsuki, not that impressive compared to a lot of the big name ninja.

He Have Jutsu Cannot dodge " Kirn" Only Yata Mirror Could Block It if Itachi wasn't Have yata Mirror he woyld Turn into Pieces

Itachi didn't use yata to block it, it was blocked by only a partial susanoo. Kirin takes a crap load of prep, and jutsu's that have been deemed "unavoidable" have been avoided.

16 Years Old and Met/Fight Great People ( Orochimaru ,Diedara,Itachi,Bee,5 Kages )

The only legitimate win he got out of all his fights was against deidara and danzo. Orochimaru was in a weakened state, itachi didn't want to kill him, sasu was saved from raikage by gaara, didn't even fight gaara, was saved from mei by zetsu, saved from oonoki by madara, and got his chakra healed 3 times in between the kage fights.

 

[Swizzik]

no hes not the strongest ninja, he shouldnt be classified as a ninja he is now a god.

 

[Blaze Release]

A weakened orochimaru, and the battle was a battle of genjutsu, which the uchiha excel at.


Deidara is only mid-low level akatsuki, not that impressive compared to a lot of the big name ninja.


Itachi didn't use yata to block it, it was blocked by only a partial susanoo. Kirin takes a crap load of prep, and jutsu's that have been deemed "unavoidable" have been avoided.


The only legitimate win he got out of all his fights was against deidara and danzo. Orochimaru was in a weakened state, itachi didn't want to kill him, sasu was saved from raikage by gaara, didn't even fight gaara, was saved from mei by zetsu, saved from oonoki by madara, and got his chakra healed 3 times in between the kage fights.

Although you do make a good argument, The few fights from naruto has been in is even more unconvincing that sasuke's fights.

Firstly against kakuzu who has had been greatly weakened by kakashi and co.
Against pein who was also greatly weakened and still defeated him in sage mode. Relied on the fox whom god realm only fought on par with.

Tbh there are the only fights naruto has been in and tbh the two fights he had been in, both opponents have been greatly weakened from previous fights.

Atleast sasuke fought deidora alone and put up a great fight. Deidora needed to sacrifice himself in order to bring down sasuke. Against the kage's he fought most on his own, jugo got whopped from the start and so did sugetsu.

Against danzo he fought him on his own. Even though karin figured out danzo's moves, sasuke had already figured it out. The only person sasuke fought weakened was oro and itachi but atleast he fought them on his own, cannot say the same for naruto

 

[lanakau888]

Although you do make a good argument, The few fights from naruto has been even more unconvincing that sasuke's fights.

Firstly against kakuzu has had been greatly weakened by kakashi and co.
Against pein who was also greatly weakened and still defeated him in sage mode. Relied on the fox whom god realm only fought on par with.

Tbh there are the only fight naruto has been in and tbh the two fights he had been in, both opponents have been greatly weakened from previous fights.

Completely true, and if there was a thread that listed those as naruto's legitamite wins, I would say the same thing. But ya gotta admit that they both had their fair share of help in the big battles.

 

[Coyote]

Hm.

Oro was in his very weak state.
Deidara killed himself and would have kill Sasuke if Madara didn't help him.
Killer Bee basically be his ass, but Jugo and Karin saved him.
Kages did a good job beating him up...once again saved by Madara or Oonoki would have killed him.


Sasuke fanboy at their finest.

 

[Protozoid]

A weakened orochimaru, and the battle was a battle of genjutsu, which the uchiha excel at.

Tell me, how does that make any difference? It's a natural ability that was bestowed upon him. It's apart of his character. You're one of the people that typically spew "would haves", "should haves", and "could haves". One thing you have to come into realization with is that it is what it is. He has the kekkei genkai Sharingan. He had Orochimaru's power once upon a time. And he has Eternal Mangekyou sharingan thanks to Itachi. That shouldn't mean anything at all. Sure, people can hypothetically say "oh Sasuke is nothing without sharingan". But one thing we all have to face is he does have it. That makes him Sasuke Uchiha.

Look at it this way. We can all imagine how characters would be without certain abilities. What we all have to understand is that they have that power. The basis of the argument has to be something less oriented around theories and possibilities and based more on facts. That's what I see being lacked here.

 

[lanakau888]

Tell me, how does that make any difference? It's a natural ability that was bestowed upon him. It's apart of his character. You're one of the people that typically spew "would haves", "should haves", and "could haves". One thing you have to come into realization with is that it is what it is. He has the kekki genkai Sharingan. He had Orochimaru's power once upon a time. And he has Eternal Mangekyou sharingan thanks to Itachi. That shouldn't mean anything at all. Sure, people can hypothetically say "oh Sasuke is nothing without sharingan". But one thing we all have to face is he does have it. That makes him Sasuke Uchiha.

Look at it this way. We can all imagine how characters would be without certain abilities. What we all have to understand is that they have that power. The basis of the argument has to be something less oriented around theories and possibilities and based more on facts. That's what I see being lacked here.

Look here sonny cop-a-squat and listen up.
I guess the way I phrased it was wrong, I should have expanded on what I meant instead of just giving a one-line rebuttal to the orochi vs sasuke argument. I did that because I get the feeling that most people don't read the long posts. For that I am sorry. Here is what I meant:

Orochimaru's intention was to absorb sasuke. The absorption ritual is a genjutsu, which is why sasuke is perfect for repelling it because being an uchiha meant he had superior abilities to counter genjutsu. If orochimaru's intention was an outright battle in order to kill sasuke, then the outcome would have been different since the game would have been tai and ninjutsu, areas where sasuke would not have had such a natural advantage over orochimaru in.

 

[Redd]

yea orochimaru was sick so nope lol

It wasn't a physical fight.

And for Deidara he used Manda as a shield so if he didnt have him he'd be dead lol

Sasuke still won fair and square tho and nothing you say can change that.

And bee killed sasuke like 5 times and he was saved by karin lol so there's alot of help in his fights lol

I'm not going to argue that but it could've went very differently if Sasuke used MS or Kirin right off the bat plus Killer Bee only when after Sasuke used MS.

 

[Protozoid]

Look here sonny cop-a-squat and listen up.
I guess the way I phrased it was wrong, I should have expanded on what I meant instead of just giving a one-line rebuttal to the orochi vs sasuke argument. I did that because I get the feeling that most people don't read the long posts. For that I am sorry. Here is what I meant:

Orochimaru's intention was to absorb sasuke. The absorption ritual is a genjutsu, which is why sasuke is perfect for repelling it because being an uchiha meant he had superior abilities to counter genjutsu. If orochimaru's intention was an outright battle in order to kill sasuke, then the outcome would have been different since the game would have been tai and ninjutsu, areas where sasuke would not have had such a natural advantage over orochimaru in.

And there you go with the theoretical argument basis. Regardless of what you changed in your post you still fail to realize what I meant. Typical Sasuke haters that have no idea what they're talking about. My god.

 

[NLee]

Okay, he Beat Orochimaru ( The Guy who was about To destroy konoha)

He Beat Deidara ( who Beat Gaara and Most Sand Ninjas)

He Have Jutsu Cannot dodge " Kirn" Only Yata Mirror Could Block It if Itachi wasn't Have yata Mirror he woyld Turn into Pieces

16 Years Old and Met/Fight Great People ( Orochimaru ,Diedara,Itachi,Bee,5 Kages )

Not smart at all.

-Orochimaru was already sick and dying.
-Deidara won against Gaara but he didn't beat him. He exploited the village's safety and used it as a distraction. If Gaara fought Deidara in an open desert, Deidara would have less than 0% chance.
-Kirin takes a considerable amount of time to prep, therefore it has a weakness. I'd like to see him use it without having time to set up.
-Yeah, so has Naruto. In fact, Naruto's fought even more powerful people. Kakuzu, Muu, 3rd Raikage, Pain/Nagato, etc.

 

[lanakau888]

And there you go with the theoretical argument basis. Regardless of what you changed in your post you still fail to realize what I meant. Typical Sasuke haters that have no idea what they're talking about. My god.

So let me get your stance on this issue: if orochimaru's intention wasn't to absorb sasuke but to kill him, you think that the battle would still have ended up with orochimaru trying to take over sasuke via genjutsu?

The logic that I use goes both ways, and has been used for other characters as well. Orochimaru's intention was not to kill sasuke, but to absorb him. Itachi's intention was not to kill sasuke, but push sasuke to his absolute limits. Pain's intention was not to kill naruto, but to capture him.

In all of these fights the so called winner is getting a handicap because of the intention of their opponent, which causes the said winner to do better in battle since the opponent is unwilling to use their full strength because of said reasons.

 

[-Kisame-]

whaaaattttt? kisame>killer bee>sasuke>naruto. (not fanboy'n), but kisame would have killed bee if A didn't show up, and bee basically mutilated sasuke, so...no
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[lanakau888]

whaaaattttt? kisame>killer bee>sasuke>naruto. (not fanboy'n), but kisame would have killed bee if A didn't show up, and bee basically mutilated sasuke, so...no
'

No you mean:

Guy>Kisame>Bee>sasuke>naruto>kakashi=Guy right?