Sasuke is a spoiled brat while Madara got power all on his own.

[KillerbYo]

That is not explaining why he didn't deserve it.

Yes it is. It means Hashirama was deemed a better leader for the village than him not subjectily but objectivly. Instead of accepting that he went bananas.

 

[JayeshMange]

Right cus thinking for yourself is for spoiled people.

Sasuke did struggle, even if Itachi let him win Sasuke still struggled, Sasuke is redeemable when Madara simply wants to rule the world as its saviour.

Madara got help from Obito.

Madara got help from Hashirama.

Madara got help from Black Zetsu.

He didnt deserve to be kage because thats what was stated in the manga, you cant become a leader just because you have friends. The one that became kage became so in a democratic way.

People did try to kill Sasuke. If Tsunade had ordered a hit on Sasuke that was still a lesser threat then the Akatsuki than that would still not have been worse then his fight against all the Kages.

ok so you think KAGES are the best fighters from a village
*cough*
Jiraiya>Tsunade
Nagato>Mei
Killer Bee>Ay

so your point that it couldn't be worse fight then fight againt five kages is nullified :XD:

 

[King Of Pop]

Remind me how he worked for izunas eyes smh, this type of threads have gotten boring and stale.

 

[KillerbYo]

ok so you think KAGES are the best fighters from a village
*cough*
Jiraiya>Tsunade
Nagato>Mei
Killer Bee>Ay

so your point that it couldn't be worse fight then fight againt five kages is nullified :XD:

So you think Sasuke was lucky Tsunade did not order people stronger than Kages to hunt down Sasuke before he turned into a real threat instead of focusing her best people on the Akatsuki?







Madara got his eyepowers because his siblings died.

Madara survived the clans struggles because Hashirama "let" him live and was willing to commit suicide for his sake.

Madara left the village because he failed to become Hokage.

Madara turned criminal and was saved because his siblings had given him strong enough eyepowers.

Because of the fight Hashirama had to be a part of to protect the village Madara could survive for a longer time.

Because of Obitos bad luck Madara could continue with his plan of world domination.

Because of Black Zetsus and Kabutos help the Akatsuki could succeed in bringing him back.

Are you all denying this?

 

[Nagi]

Yes it is. It means Hashirama was deemed a better leader for the village than him not subjectily but objectivly. Instead of accepting that he went bananas.

Wow. Madara had no problem with Hashirama being the 1st hokage. Hashirama wanted him to be the 2nd hokage. But Madara know that the village will pick Tobirama to be the 2nd hokage. Madara know that if Tobirama become the 2nd hokage, his clan will be doom by default. He warned his clan that it gonna happen, but nobody didn't listen to him. They all thought that Madara just wanted to start war or something. So Madara went like **** it. He gonna force peace upon the world in his own way.

The village just don't like the Uchiha clan much and they judge the whole clan base off of one man, Madara. Any village that do that deserve to be destroy.

The point is saying Madara didn't deserve to be Hokage is incorrect.

 

[KillerbYo]

Wow. Madara had no problem with Hashirama being the 1st hokage. Hashirama wanted him to be the 2nd hokage. But Madara know that the village will pick Tobirama to be the 2nd hokage. Madara know that if Tobirama become the 2nd hokage, his clan will be doom by default. He warned his clan that it gonna happen, but nobody didn't listen to him. They all thought that Madara just wanted to start war or something. So Madara went like **** it. He gonna force peace upon the world in his own way.

The village just don't like the Uchiha clan much and they judge the whole clan base off of one man, Madara. Any village that do that deserve to be destroy.

The point is saying Madara didn't deserve to be Hokage is incorrect.

First of all, I know the plot, I also know of "past tense", second, you didnt disprove me, having sympathy for Madara does not make him qualified to become a dictator, he never tried to create peace btw and what Madara wanted was for the Uchiha to rise with him, which they eventually did much thanks to Tobiramas mistreatment. Nobody knows if Madara could have succeded Hashirama because he never stayed to give that possibility a chance.

Wow. Madara had no problem with Hashirama being the 1st hokage. Hashirama wanted him to be the 2nd hokage. But Madara know that the village will pick Tobirama to be the 2nd hokage. Madara know that if Tobirama become the 2nd hokage, his clan will be doom by default. He warned his clan that it gonna happen, but nobody didn't listen to him. They all thought that Madara just wanted to start war or something. So Madara went like **** it. He gonna force peace upon the world in his own way.

The village just don't like the Uchiha clan much and they judge the whole clan base off of one man, Madara. Any village that do that deserve to be destroy.

The point is saying Madara didn't deserve to be Hokage is incorrect.

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[Nagi]

First of all, I know the plot, I also know of "past tense", second, you didnt disprove me, having sympathy for Madara does not make him qualified to becom a dictator, he never tried to create peace btw and what Madara wanted was for the Uchiha to rise with him, which they eventually did.

Wrong. He warned the Uchiha clan before he made his final dream. So "rise with him" is not the right way to say it. He simply told them that the clan will be treated differently and not fair.

Your statement is "He didn't deserve to be hokage" I simply ask why he didn't deserve to be hokage. I didn't ask why he didn't become hokage. Madara is qualified to become hokage as much as Hashirama. The only reason Hashirama became hokage is because people like his false ass character. Nobody don't like the vibe that was coming from Madara. Hashirama just have a better public relation.

Tobirama was a strict person and willing to do dark shit to get shit done. If he wasn't Hashirama's brother, People wouldn't pick him to be the 2nd hokage. He would be look at just like people look at Madara and Danzo. Scary people.

That scan prove that the village will never trust the uchiha clan as much as the senji clan. The more reason why Madara told his clan that they should leave or in your term "rise".

 

[Itachi 4 life]

5 star thread+rep+thanks. One of the best threads of the week. That should put any logical Sasuke fanboys down.

 

[KillerbYo]

Wrong. He warned the Uchiha clan before he made his final dream. So "rise with him" is not the right way to say it. He simply told them that the clan will be treated differently and not fair.

Your statement is "He didn't deserve to be hokage" I simply ask why he didn't deserve to be hokage. I didn't ask why he didn't become hokage. Madara is qualified to become hokage as much as Hashirama. The only reason Hashirama became hokage is because people like his false ass character. Nobody don't like the vibe that was coming from Madara. Hashirama just have a better public relation.

Tobirama was a strict person and willing to do dark shit to get shit done. If he wasn't Hashirama's brother, People wouldn't pick him to be the 2nd hokage. He would be look at just like people look at Madara and Danzo. Scary people.

You dont understand, sure he deserved to be Hokage. You could say that, but objectivly he did not. And thats the truth.

I dont get why you bring up other stuff thats not relevant when you still ask why he didnt deserve to be kage. He warned the Uchiha and they chose not to follow him, because they did have peace, and why would the oppose the Senju and the Village at that point? But eventually they did listen to Madara and they got even more influencal when they got discriminated by Tobirama.
Was there anyone else in the village other than Tobirama that should have been Kage?

 

[MrLukyso]

That is true.

If people are speaking about "Lucky".. please.

Sasuke was lucky Sakura and Obito saved him from Kaguya, Sasuke got killed by Madara but he got lucky that Kabuto somehow got out of Izanami and saved his ass once again, he was Lucky Tsunade didn't order his ass off, he was lucky Orochimaru had no Jutsu at the time he tried to kill him. U_U

Madara was fighting vs Hashirama and the whole Senju clan, yes he got beaten and then he was spared, but he didn't want to as he said just finish it U_U

Sasuke achieved 1 thing in his life... he was born in Uchiha. =D

 

[Nagi]

You dont understand, sure he deserved to be Hokage. You could say that, but objectivly he did not. And thats the truth.

I dont get why you bring up other stuff thats not relevant when you still ask why he didnt deserve to be kage. He warned the Uchiha and they chose not to follow him, because they did have peace, and why would the oppose the Senju and the Village at that point? But eventually they did listen to Madara and they got even more influencal when they got discriminated by Tobirama.
Was there anyone else in the village other than Tobirama that should have been Kage?

That is all I wanted to hear from you. Have a nice day.

PS: They eventually see that Madara was right after Tobirama discriminated them by making them the police force and keep them out of nation affair.

 

[KillerbYo]

That is all I wanted to hear from you. Have a nice day.

PS: They eventually see that Madara was right after Tobirama discriminated them by making them the police force and keep them out of nation affair.

Danzo deserved to be Kage too. I guess you pressured me enough to say it. Dont see why he would deserve it though.

 

[Nagi]

Danzo deserved to be Kage too. I guess you pressured me enough to say it.

Of course he do. Madara, Tobirama, and Danzo deserved the title of being Kage or should be kage. They are more realistic leader than all of the other Kage. They all used Methods that tyrant would use.

 

[Styles]

Hate thread detected.

 

[Vapid]

Agreed. Madara is an example of someone who actually earns their buffs and powerups; Sasuke's a spoon-fed manchild.

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Thats why Madara is a great villain and Sasuke aint!

 

[Angelic.]

izuna gave him his eyeballs.

he was handed the bijuu by akatsuki gathering them. not himself.
bz solos both their effort

 

[AlphaScythian]

Massive fail.
Madz only was alive on BZ behalf, otherwise he got EMS as present and died even thou he got rinnegan before he died U_U

 

[BraveStorm]

Really, Sasuke is spoiled, he lost his family, he lost his home, he trained under someone that wanted his body, he traveled the world to find team mates and made up a plan to change the world by himself.

Madara was part of a clan, his siblings deaths gave him powers, He was only saved cus Hashirama was kind as hell, he freaked out when he couldnt become Hokage even though he didnt deserve it, the moon eye plan was never his it was Zetsus, without the luck of Obito falling into his home he would never have gotten anywhere.

Are you on drugs or is this the opposite day?

What has Sasuke losing his family to do with him getting free powerups like a spoiled brat, then
disses people who are weaker?

Oro = curse mark
kabuto = hashi dna
hogoromo = half his power
hashirama = remaining chakra + new jutsu

He is the halloween master in Naruto

 

[Senju Bean]

Massive fail.
Madz only was alive on BZ behalf, otherwise he got EMS as present and died even thou he got rinnegan before he died U_U

Where does the manga state that?


Madara never got saved by BZ. It was Madara that used Izanagi to do it.

Sasuke on the other hand got saved by Obito way too many times.